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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 10:14:21 GMT -5
A) Find a different store. B) Camp out with them. C) Buy it online. These things are mass-produced. Even the "rare" ones. If you keep looking, you will eventually find one. I can think of maybe 6 figures total in the entire WWE Mattel line that I never saw retail. Of those 6, all 6 are available online and at one point extremely close to retail price. A) Scalpers don't hit just one store, they go to EVERY possible place that sells toys B) Nope. I'm an adult with self-respect and a great job I refuse to skip on to buy some toys C) That's what the majority of people do. It's all about timing. That's the fun of the hunt! Mass-scalpers ruin that fun. My point of this whole topic was just proven with this comment....Stop complaining about it if you are not willing to do something about it. These scalpers are willing to go out to every store at the butt crack of dawn to track them down. If you are not willing to do that, you lose. The early bird gets the worm. They are not breaking any laws in the process, no matter how much it ticks you off. With that being said, I do hate switch-a-roos. That is shoplifting and they are breaking a law. But that is a whole different subject.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 10, 2013 10:17:00 GMT -5
Death to Chumlees! They ruin collecting.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jul 10, 2013 10:26:59 GMT -5
A) Find a new toy line to scalp... I here Neca is worth money B) delete your account When Jakks Classics started up, and scalpers came on here to post pics of their loot, they got so much heat they deleted themeselves or got banned because the Admins knew they would be trouble. I miss the days whe. wF was anti scalper. Now we are pro??? Really? " you make great points" No, you don't make great points. You just puss people off. What makes you anymore entitled to the figures at Wal-mart than anyone else? Because you think you collect the "Right" way? We all have different motives in our actions, and when it comes to collecting toys, there is not right or wrong way to do it. I'm personally not a scalper, or a customizer for that matter, but I am not going to knock anyone for doing either of those things. If someone thinks they can make a quick dollar or two on a figure, more power to them. As stated above, I don't personally go out looking for figures that I already have to make a profit, but every once in awhile when I stumble across one, I pick it up to help my personal collection grow. If you don't like "scalpers" getting the toys before you, then maybe you should find another hobby because it certainly will not stop if true collectors are just going to sit back and watch it happen. As stated above, if you don't like the scalpers sitting out in front of TRU every friday, maybe you should start sitting there with them and beat them to the figures. After losing out on the valuable figures a few times, they will go somewhere else and you won't have that problem. Problem is, everyone is here busy complaining and giving there sad stories about how they missed out due to a scalper. Get up and do something about it. Hahaha get up an do something about it. Dude, you live in North Dakota. Why dont you drive over to Alexander, sit at the High Way Lounge, an I promise you will have a good paying job after talking to people for an hour. Then you wont need to scalp for money. Get on the oil boom. Go work for Monster Oil, or Hess in Tioga. Go work for Dynacore in Watford City or Epyon in Williston. Or 4 bears in New Town. I found Mankind at Walmart in Williston and Zack Ryder at Kmart in Dickenson. I worked in ND all of 2012.. No one buys WWE toys in western ND.. So you have an excuse mainly because its an oil MAN state. Get a job dumbass!
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Post by brochester on Jul 10, 2013 10:30:00 GMT -5
Yea no one is going to sit and camp out with scalpers b/c normal ppl have real jobs and lives. Just hurting ur argument bro. I agree here. I personally collect one of everyone on the roster and sometimes it's impossible to do. I once saw our local scalper at walmart with 3 Eve's (in blue) in his cart along with several others that came out at that time, this was a few years back. The next week he was at the jockey lot trying to sell them for $25 each. It's not right. I was in the Marines, Have a college degree, and have a great job and can't/dont have time to camp out at TRU, Target, Walmart, wherever waiting on the truck to get there. I have a life. I'm definitely not going to ppay twice as much as what the figure is actually worth in the store. I work hard for my money and it's not right that these Scalpers are clearing the shelves as soon as there on the pegs. You say eventually you will find them. Well I saw him with those 3 Eve's more than 2 years ago and was just now able to get her three months ago. Collectors want the figures when they hit the shelves, not have to wait on the price to finally be the same as retail on ebay which usually takes a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 10:30:32 GMT -5
What makes you anymore entitled to the figures at Wal-mart than anyone else? Because you think you collect the "Right" way? We all have different motives in our actions, and when it comes to collecting toys, there is not right or wrong way to do it. I'm personally not a scalper, or a customizer for that matter, but I am not going to knock anyone for doing either of those things. If someone thinks they can make a quick dollar or two on a figure, more power to them. As stated above, I don't personally go out looking for figures that I already have to make a profit, but every once in awhile when I stumble across one, I pick it up to help my personal collection grow. If you don't like "scalpers" getting the toys before you, then maybe you should find another hobby because it certainly will not stop if true collectors are just going to sit back and watch it happen. As stated above, if you don't like the scalpers sitting out in front of TRU every friday, maybe you should start sitting there with them and beat them to the figures. After losing out on the valuable figures a few times, they will go somewhere else and you won't have that problem. Problem is, everyone is here busy complaining and giving there sad stories about how they missed out due to a scalper. Get up and do something about it. Hahaha get up an do something about it. Dude, you live in North Dakota. Why dont you drive over to Alexander, sit at the High Way Lounge, an I promise you will have a good paying job after talking to people for an hour. Then you wont need to scalp for money. Get on the oil boom. Go work for Monster Oil, or Hess in Tioga. Go work for Dynacore in Watford City or Epyon in Williston. Or 4 bears in New Town. I found Mankind at Walmart in Williston and Zack Ryder at Kmart in Dickenson. I worked in ND all of 2012.. No one buys WWE toys in western ND.. So you have an excuse mainly because its an oil MAN state. Get a job dumbass! Quoting the dumbest post I'll see all week.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 10:35:06 GMT -5
What makes you anymore entitled to the figures at Wal-mart than anyone else? Because you think you collect the "Right" way? We all have different motives in our actions, and when it comes to collecting toys, there is not right or wrong way to do it. I'm personally not a scalper, or a customizer for that matter, but I am not going to knock anyone for doing either of those things. If someone thinks they can make a quick dollar or two on a figure, more power to them. As stated above, I don't personally go out looking for figures that I already have to make a profit, but every once in awhile when I stumble across one, I pick it up to help my personal collection grow. If you don't like "scalpers" getting the toys before you, then maybe you should find another hobby because it certainly will not stop if true collectors are just going to sit back and watch it happen. As stated above, if you don't like the scalpers sitting out in front of TRU every friday, maybe you should start sitting there with them and beat them to the figures. After losing out on the valuable figures a few times, they will go somewhere else and you won't have that problem. Problem is, everyone is here busy complaining and giving there sad stories about how they missed out due to a scalper. Get up and do something about it. Hahaha get up an do something about it. Dude, you live in North Dakota. Why dont you drive over to Alexander, sit at the High Way Lounge, an I promise you will have a good paying job after talking to people for an hour. Then you wont need to scalp for money. Get on the oil boom. Go work for Monster Oil, or Hess in Tioga. Go work for Dynacore in Watford City or Epyon in Williston. Or 4 bears in New Town. I found Mankind at Walmart in Williston and Zack Ryder at Kmart in Dickenson. I worked in ND all of 2012.. No one buys WWE toys in western ND.. So you have an excuse mainly because its an oil MAN state. Get a job dumbass! Seriously man, I'm personally not a scalper. I just saying they are not doing anything wrong doing what they are doing. And if you must know, I don't live in western ND. I live in eastern ND....And I do have a job, two of them. But that isn't the point of this topic. The point is that we the collectors are letting the scalpers out-work us and until we the collectors are willing to do something about it, the scalpers will continue to prevail.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jul 10, 2013 10:35:41 GMT -5
Quoting the dumbest post?? Bro you're trying to make light of a screwed up deed. Flipping toys??? Get a life.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 10:38:28 GMT -5
I'm sure I am going to get hated to no end for this thread, but I have to get this off my chest. I am so tired of hearing members here complain about scalping. It's nonsense.... Look, if a store puts them on the shelf, the first person to get to them is entitled to buy however many of them he wants. It's there money. Deal with it....If they choose to buy every Elite figure that you just happen to want and turn around and sell them for 3 times as much, so be it. You should have got to the store earlier. Besides, if people were not doing this, every store would probably be clogged to the max with figures and we would never get new sets in. I personally do no go out looking to flip a figure for a profit, but I have on occasion picked up an extra figure to trade or sell to get money for another figure that I normally couldn't find at retail anymore or was too expensive to purchase anymore. I'm a bad guy for doing that? Why is it celebrated here when somebody buys 5 AJ Lee figures and breaks them apart to customize them, but when somebody buys 5 AJ's to resell them it is wrong? Seems like a double standard there if you ask me. Bottom line is, if you want the saught after figures at retail, get up and look for them. The "scalpers" can find them, so can you. I totaly agree and theres probobly alot of haters but them they just wonna kiss each others ass and great job for speaking your mind btw i didnt say all wrestlingfigs people on here
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Post by PJ on Jul 10, 2013 10:39:38 GMT -5
We all know how I feel about scalpers. But if people wouldn't feed the scalpers...there'd be no scalping. That said there's never been something I couldn't find at mass retail around here. And I have to deal with the people from T0y W1z hitting up every local Target/TRU/WalMart on a daily basis.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 10:41:07 GMT -5
I've never been vocal about it but I still don't like it. It ruins the fun of collecting.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jul 10, 2013 10:48:07 GMT -5
I've never been vocal about it but I still don't like it. It ruins the fun of collecting. Case closed . Great post!!! The distribution doesn't help that each shelf sees one full case! Scalping has killed the joy of going to stores. My worst scalper experience was Black Friday last year. I saw a guy with 20 of the Walmart exclusive "No DQ" set. You don't have 20 gives man!!! Give it up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 10:56:32 GMT -5
There are two things we as collectors can do to prevent scalpers.
1) Beat them to the stores and get the figures ourselves. 2) Stop buying the figures from scalpers at inflated prices.
Problem is that everyone who has replied with negative comments towards scalpers has made it clear that doing those two things is too much of an inconvience to them. If doing 1 of those 2 things is too hard for you to do, you obviously don't care that much about the figures in the first place. So, why do you care who buys them and what they do with them? Doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by speedlgt on Jul 10, 2013 11:00:37 GMT -5
OK where do i start with how WRONG you are about scalping! first lets look at the laws, ok so you say you have the right to buy as many of a figure as you choose if you get to the store first. Well your right yes you have the freedom to do so. There is nothing legally wrong with your concept, however if you recall back to the FIRST batman film k-mart put a limit on one batman per customer....hmmm i wonder why that was? it was to prevent SCALPING but why would k mart care? well it was so children YES children could all have the chance to get a batman!
And that brings me the primary and most important reason scalping is EVIL and WRONG, scalping takes toys (the GOOD ONES) out of a childs hands and out of there CHILDHOOD! we all love toys mostlikely cause we have fond memories from our childhood of them. NOW think of what if we didnt get those toys cause a scalper went and cleared out the whole area of the most popular toys just to make a profit? You and I would not be into collecting cause we lost that moment of loving get a cool toy at the store.
The second reason is not so noble, but its a fair reason. You are taking the toy away from a collector, to make a few dollars on the product. This is not the same as investing in a toy. Investing in a toy is buying a bunch of toys and keeping hoping they will go up in value in 10 year or more period. thats an investment and in the end its what we do. Your not fliping the product while its hot to make 5 dollars profit off of someone whos INVESTING in there collection. the same right you have to buy as many figs as you choose is the same right collector has to buy the said fig at FAIR price at RETAIL not to be denied by a scalper and forced to pay 35 dollars for elite ROCK fig that sells for 16! Collectors have a right as well.
the third reason is like a zombie virus your actions as a scapler spread FAST thought out the collection community. when I walk in to a store and see a honky tonk figure (which I dont want nor care about) My reaction is to buy it up and many of them cause people here want it and it will be worth something!! its a virus making me want to buy something just cause i know scalpers are after it turning me into an evil scalper as well. But I fight the GOOD FIGHT!
If a scalper wants to make money on toys and get into the business then they should become a seller and contact the distrubtor, and get the proper documentation. IN this fashion they are also gonna make more money as they can sell the elite figures for 16.99 and they most likely paid 5 dollars for the product.
if you buy something cause you want it for your personal use and love that product your not a scalper. For example I am big GI JOE fan and the new tomahawk just came out now if i buy 3 of those its cause I want 3 of them to build my army! not cause I am gonna sell 2 of em a month later for 100 dollars.
I go to toy shows all the time, and you can tell a scalper table from a collector table. A scalper table #1 has BUSINESS CARDS! and has everything MOC, this guy will be at every show and leave with a full table his prices are based on ebay. the collector table has no business card and has loose and moc stuff. His stuff was used for display and it shows. his prices are priced to move that may give him a small profit or maybe a good profit but his prices are intended to sell not to keep a full table to bring home time after time.
the scalper doesnt make much money long term and all he does is hurt the hobby and the children
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jul 10, 2013 11:05:41 GMT -5
Im not going to gauge a full on assualt on scalpers. Its a toy. I haven't had a hard time finding figures at retail other than Kevin Nash, Diesel, and Papa Shango.,,
If I can't find something and the next set hits retail, then I go to RSC or Amazon. I am only willing to pay extra if A, I can't find it and B, if I REALLY want it, which is usually the case when it comes to Flashbacks.
In my entire 18-20 years of collecting, I have purchased one thing off of ebay, and that was the Jakks CSTT 2 pack of LOD. Which was really hard to find at retail an online.
Scalpers will do what they do. There is no stopping that. But atleast not having members come here and "talk about, brag about, or showcase" their scalping would be great. Out of sight out of mind for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:09:12 GMT -5
They can be hated all you want, but it will not change. The same thing happens with other toy lines, concert tickets, sporting events, etc. If there is a dollar to be made off it something, someone will take advantage of it.
If you live in the states and cannot find it in a store near you, wait patiently on ebay. Prices are highest on figures when they are first released and typically again several months after their production runs. There is a window of time where you can find them pretty close to retail prices. I feel confident saying that about nearly every figure, minus maybe Nash ... which i never saw in stores and paid $33 online simply to add him to my collection.
It is a bummer when someone hits the store and takes a ton of figures, but how can anyone be sure of this unless you see one person doing it? It could be several collectors or kids getting to the figures earlier.
And to be honest, yes, I picked up 3 Elite 12 Kanes well after their initial release and put them on ebay. 1) i figured i might make an extra buck, and 2) it would end up in the hands of someone who really wanted it. Just being honest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:13:21 GMT -5
Of course you can do what you want, if you want to scalp then go ahead. Doesn't mean I like it or agree with it though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:14:19 GMT -5
I agree, if you buy them their yours can do whatever you want with them. If you walk into a store and see a fig for 17 dollars and you know you can sell for for 50+ How many wouldn't buy and sell or trade them ? Prob not many.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:15:37 GMT -5
I like the point when someone by 5 AJ's to make customs out of them. That person is taking away the figures that no one would see again, if they are scalpers at least you will be able to buy it again. Probably not at store price tho.
It also drives me nuts when people buy 2 of the same figure from each series. They have one MOC and loose. Why? Is it really necessary to have one of each like that? No!
Just like both examples, people don't give a **** if someone buys 5 of the same figure or have the same figure loose or MOC. But if they try to turn a little profit on it, they get the business. But if your going to mark up price 50 dollars, get a life. There is no need to buy multiple figures unless you want to use it for trade or sell it for a little profit
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jul 10, 2013 11:16:42 GMT -5
I don't really get pissed when I see members on here who buy 3 or 4 of the same fig. When I think of scalpers, I think of the scumbags who own a sports collectible store. They are the ones who camp and buy everything at TRU, Walmart, and Target, and then drive it 3 miles away to their shop and double the price within 5 minutes. You wanna sell Mattel figures in yoiur store? Get a Mattel vendor account! But then again, they probably don't have the credit.
But to be honest, the only scalper situation I have ever encountered was a good one. I got a MOC E12 Kane from a vendor at a flea market for $35. Without that "scalper" I would have been paying $80-$100 on ebay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:20:34 GMT -5
It's not illegal, but anyone who does it is just a scumbag. It's an act of selfishness and greed, which are two horrible qualities to have.
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