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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:21:40 GMT -5
Can I point out if nobody payed the scalpers they wouldn't do it any more.
Also like to point out there is a company or companies that buy directly from mattel and sell it double to triple retail and people still buy from them. So why does nobody call these companies scalpers? When a company makes a business out of doing this scumbag stuff it's ok? Your point makes it sound like you are only mad at people who do it and not the companies too. If you are going to say one is wrong then they all are wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:27:07 GMT -5
Can I point iut if nobody payed the scalpers they wouldn't do it any more. Also like to point out there is a company or companies that buy directly from mattel and sell it double to triple retail and people still buy from them. So why does nobody call these companies scalpers? Because RSC will delete the comment as soon as we post it. lol
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Post by PJ on Jul 10, 2013 11:29:10 GMT -5
I like the point when someone by 5 AJ's to make customs out of them. That person is taking away the figures that no one would see again, if they are scalpers at least you will be able to buy it again. Probably not at store price tho. It also drives me nuts when people buy 2 of the same figure from each series. They have one MOC and loose. Why? Is it really necessary to have one of each like that? No! Just like both examples, people don't give a **** if someone buys 5 of the same figure or have the same figure loose or MOC. But if they try to turn a little profit on it, they get the business. But if your going to mark up price 50 dollars, get a life. There is no need to buy multiple figures unless you want to use it for trade or sell it for a little profit I have no issue with people buying more than one for customs or to keep one MoC and one loose. At least the figures are staying in their personal collection. There is not one valid reason to justify scalping. But like I said above if people would feed the scalpers then we wouldn't have the scalping issue.
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Post by DudeAbides on Jul 10, 2013 11:32:46 GMT -5
I have no problems at all with people buying multiples for customs, because theyre buying them for themselves. If they can make an awesome custom and resell that for a small profit thats different too, because thats not something someone one can go into a store and buy and is (if its good anyway) worth more than retail. But if someone is buying multiples of a figure just to turn around and jack up the prices and rip someone off, thats the problem cuz the only thing theyre doing is trying to rip off another collector for financial gain, period.
On the same token though, scalpers wouldnt exist if there werent stupid people out there who pay those inflated prices. Those people who just HAVE to have it as soon as it comes out, be patient and you can buy 2 or 3 figs for the price youre buying that 1 for. All good things....right?
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Post by AmbroseBeforeHoes on Jul 10, 2013 11:34:37 GMT -5
And that brings me the primary and most important reason scalping is EVIL and WRONG, scalping takes toys (the GOOD ONES) out of a childs hands and out of there CHILDHOOD! the scalper doesnt make much money long term and all he does is hurt the hobby and the children So what are you guys doing?! I'm guessing none of you are children? "1 AJ in Walmart? I need her, but what about the child that will come looking for her in 20 minutes? Oh well, they can have one of these 20 Cena's that's left."
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Post by PJ on Jul 10, 2013 11:35:33 GMT -5
Can I point iut if nobody payed the scalpers they wouldn't do it any more. Also like to point out there is a company or companies that buy directly from mattel and sell it double to triple retail and people still buy from them. So why does nobody call these companies scalpers? Because RSC will delete the comment as soon as we post it. lol I have no issue with RSC either. They have an account with Mattel and pay it have their first shipment sent overnight from the factory. so if I am paying extra to order it from them then I feel it's worth it to have it a month or so before it hits locally. Also nobody considers the fact that they get stuck will tons of the pegwarmers that eventually will go for well below retail during one of their sales. So if they didn't charge more for the popular ones they'd be out of business in a few months.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 10, 2013 11:38:57 GMT -5
Because RSC will delete the comment as soon as we post it. lol I have no issue with RSC either. They have an account with Mattel and pay it have their first shipment sent overnight from the factory. so if I am paying extra to order it from them then I feel it's worth it to have it a month or so before it hits locally. Also nobody considers the fact that they get stuck will tons of the pegwarmers that eventually will go for well below retail during one of their sales. So if they didn't charge more for the popular ones they'd be out of business in a few months. 100% agree
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:39:21 GMT -5
I have no problems at all with people buying multiples for customs, because theyre buying them for themselves. If they can make an awesome custom and resell that for a small profit thats different too, because thats not something someone one can go into a store and buy and is (if its good anyway) worth more than retail. But if someone is buying multiples of a figure just to turn around and jack up the prices and rip someone off, thats the problem cuz the only thing theyre doing is trying to rip off another collector for financial gain, period. On the same token though, scalpers wouldnt exist if there werent stupid people out there who pay those inflated prices. Those people who just HAVE to have it as soon as it comes out, be patient and you can buy 2 or 3 figs for the price youre buying that 1 for. All good things....right? Problem with the custom comment is that alot of people who make good customs don't keep them in their collection. They throw them on ebay or sell them here for inflated prices. Look at how much the Shield customs and Ryback customs were going for. Customizers were doing the same thing scalpers were doing. They were jumping on a hot market and making a profit. I personally don't have a problem with this. Just like I don't have a problem with a scalper selling a figure for a profit. Just pointing out that there is the same concept involved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:42:35 GMT -5
Because RSC will delete the comment as soon as we post it. lol I have no issue with RSC either. They have an account with Mattel and pay it have their first shipment sent overnight from the factory. so if I am paying extra to order it from them then I feel it's worth it to have it a month or so before it hits locally. Also nobody considers the fact that they get stuck will tons of the pegwarmers that eventually will go for well below retail during one of their sales. So if they didn't charge more for the popular ones they'd be out of business in a few months. I 100 percent agree with this statement. But that goes back to the point I brought up earlier. If we as collectors stop paying inflated prices for the "rare" figures and have a little self control, those figures will be available at retail for retail prices. Although this strategy hurts RSC, it also hurts scalpers....If RSC can't sell a figure for $30, then scalpers surely can't either.
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 10, 2013 11:47:52 GMT -5
Scapling is NOT ok. Period. There is absolutely no way to justiify some loser sitting out front of a Toys R Us waiting for it to open so he can run in and buy out the entire store. Leaving us with our great selection of Rey, Cena, and Orton. It makes it very frustrating and difficult as a collector and avid figure hunter. We have more of a switcharoo problem in my area lately more so than scalping problems though they're both terribly bad. It wasn't like this with Jakks
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Post by Last Trent Barreta Fan on Jul 10, 2013 11:48:53 GMT -5
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1)Toys are for kids. Here's a story- I was in my Walmart, looking at diecasts, patiently waiting my turn to look for figures, and there was this big dude blocking a kid who really wanted to look at them. The kid got his parent, who politely asked the man to move over a little so her son could look. The man didn't move until he was ready to leave with 6 figures. If you're not gonna let a little kid look for toys you're a dick. You're a grown man blocking a kid. Bet you feel like more of a man trying to make a few extra bucks.
2)Scalping is unnecessary. There's no reason for it. It's a piss poor way to make a few extra bucks. If you buy two of the same figure, with the intention of trading them to a collector who can't find them, that's fine. If you buy 5 or more with the intention of selling them for 4X retail price, you need to get a life. Seriously. I go back to the 1st thing- toys are for kids. You're basically taking a figure from a kid who would actually use it the way they were meant to be used. When I'm bored with collecting figures, I'll probably end up giving most of them to my little cousins. They'll enjoy it more than I have.
3)Camping out is uncalled for. Who camps out in front of TRU waiting for wrestling toys? Do you not understand how stupid you look? Lets say a policeman comes up and asks you what you're doing. What are you gonna say? "Uh, I need to be first inside to get to the WWE figures."
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Post by DudeAbides on Jul 10, 2013 11:51:01 GMT -5
I have no problems at all with people buying multiples for customs, because theyre buying them for themselves. If they can make an awesome custom and resell that for a small profit thats different too, because thats not something someone one can go into a store and buy and is (if its good anyway) worth more than retail. But if someone is buying multiples of a figure just to turn around and jack up the prices and rip someone off, thats the problem cuz the only thing theyre doing is trying to rip off another collector for financial gain, period. On the same token though, scalpers wouldnt exist if there werent stupid people out there who pay those inflated prices. Those people who just HAVE to have it as soon as it comes out, be patient and you can buy 2 or 3 figs for the price youre buying that 1 for. All good things....right? Problem with the custom comment is that alot of people who make good customs don't keep them in their collection. They throw them on ebay or sell them here for inflated prices. Look at how much the Shield customs and Ryback customs were going for. Customizers were doing the same thing scalpers were doing. They were jumping on a hot market and making a profit. I personally don't have a problem with this. Just like I don't have a problem with a scalper selling a figure for a profit. Just pointing out that there is the same concept involved. Its not the same concept though. While i agree that theres people out there who charge WAY too much for their sub par customs, the point behind that is they bought a figure to customize it. They put work into it, for their hobby, and made it into something that you would never find in a store (at least currently). Im talking about people who trade their customs on here or sell them on ebay with a low starting bid and let it go where it goes. People who make half ass customs and throw them up BIN for over $200 are ripping people off too and yes thats the same concept. But the only work a scalper puts into getting his product is being there when the store opens, thats it. Hes done nothing to it therefore its not worth more than retail, but he inflates the price anyway. Thats not buying something for a hobby or doing something you love, thats just someone trying to rip off other people to make a fast buck.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 10, 2013 11:51:34 GMT -5
Can I point out if nobody payed the scalpers they wouldn't do it any more. Also like to point out there is a company or companies that buy directly from mattel and sell it double to triple retail and people still buy from them. So why does nobody call these companies scalpers? Because they're not scalpers -- they might be rip-off merchants, but they're not scalpers. Scalpers are resellers. Look at the bolded part of your post -- the companies buy directly from Mattel. They aren't taking the figures from store shelves and removing local collectors' chances to get them at retail prices.
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Post by PJ on Jul 10, 2013 11:52:09 GMT -5
I have no issue with RSC either. They have an account with Mattel and pay it have their first shipment sent overnight from the factory. so if I am paying extra to order it from them then I feel it's worth it to have it a month or so before it hits locally. Also nobody considers the fact that they get stuck will tons of the pegwarmers that eventually will go for well below retail during one of their sales. So if they didn't charge more for the popular ones they'd be out of business in a few months. I 100 percent agree with this statement. But that goes back to the point I brought up earlier. If we as collectors stop paying inflated prices for the "rare" figures and have a little self control, those figures will be available at retail for retail prices. Although this strategy hurts RSC, it also hurts scalpers....If RSC can't sell a figure for $30, then scalpers surely can't either. Difference is I'll buy something from RSC, but I won't buy from a scalper or store like T0y W!z who I see cherry picking my local stores. My motto is plain and simple if it wasn't something I wanted enough to preorder from RSC (hell many times it could just a common figure like HHH or Orton) if I don't find it locally then I just won't get it. But since the Legends line was cancelled there's only been a few Mass retail figures I wanted enough to preorder. With Legends I would preorder the whole sets and with the 10% discount I was only paying $5 total more than if I waited until mass retail.(shipping included)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 11:55:29 GMT -5
I really don't care about scalpers to be honest.
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jul 10, 2013 11:59:20 GMT -5
OK- 1)Toys are for kids. Here's a story- I was in my Walmart, looking at diecasts, patiently waiting my turn to look for figures, and there was this big dude blocking a kid who really wanted to look at them. The kid got his parent, who politely asked the man to move over a little so her son could look. The man didn't move until he was ready to leave with 6 figures. If you're not gonna let a little kid look for toys you're a dick. You're a grown man blocking a kid. Bet you feel like more of a man trying to make a few extra bucks. 2)Scalping is unnecessary. There's no reason for it. It's a piss poor way to make a few extra bucks. If you buy two of the same figure, with the intention of trading them to a collector who can't find them, that's fine. If you buy 5 or more with the intention of selling them for 4X retail price, you need to get a life. Seriously. I go back to the 1st thing- toys are for kids. You're basically taking a figure from a kid who would actually use it the way they were meant to be used. When I'm bored with collecting figures, I'll probably end up giving most of them to my little cousins. They'll enjoy it more than I have. 3)Camping out is uncalled for. Who camps out in front of TRU waiting for wrestling toys? Do you not understand how stupid you look? Lets say a policeman comes up and asks you what you're doing. What are you gonna say? "Uh, I need to be first inside to get to the WWE figures." I just mentioned my hate for the loser campers, but would you really be embarassed to tell some stupid cop what you are waiting outside to buy? Who cares
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 12:04:05 GMT -5
I've got no problems with RSC charging $39.99 for a a pre-order figure. I understand that is the hot figure that people will cherry pick from there stock, leaving them with the Orton and Cenas. That's where they make up there profit. I get that....The problem I do have with RSC, and they can deny it all they want, but they do this is when they jack a price up on a figure just because he is hot later on down the road. A perfect example of this was when they had there first RSC exclusive Kane. They were selling them for $27.99 for quite some time....Then Kane returned with his mask and suddenly they are $59.99. They said there stock was getting low that is why they increased there price. That shouldn't matter at all. This was an EXCLUSIVE to their store. There should be one set price and that should be as high as that price goes. That's scalping.
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Post by MCUcollector24 on Jul 10, 2013 12:09:56 GMT -5
Everyone makes a great point. Some agree and some disagree. Why don't we agree to disagree and drop the subject.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 12:10:24 GMT -5
Can I point out if nobody payed the scalpers they wouldn't do it any more. Also like to point out there is a company or companies that buy directly from mattel and sell it double to triple retail and people still buy from them. So why does nobody call these companies scalpers? Because they're not scalpers -- they might be rip-off merchants, but they're not scalpers. Scalpers are resellers. Look at the bolded part of your post -- the companies buy directly from Mattel. They aren't taking the figures from store shelves and removing local collectors' chances to get them at retail prices. Not a valid piont. Since they also buy froms stores. How do they get TRU, walmart, and kmart exclusives to sell? They buy from mattel directly, they buy from ebay and stuff like that and they buy from stores. So yes that would make them scalpers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 12:11:14 GMT -5
Someone call the wahmbulance for this thread.
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