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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 17:17:02 GMT -5
I like this thread - it's letting me know who's worth listening to here and who's worthy of the mighty block hammer! That doesn't make sense. You hit people with ban hammers and shoot them with block glocks, duh.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 17:20:20 GMT -5
If he didn't have me getting figures for his collection, he'd have around those same 17 figures. This is something that no matter how much evidence we give, they won't give up out of sheer stubbornness. I was watching someone in the WWE Aisle taking 5 of the same figure. So I said " Hey buddy are you really gonna take 5 of the same figure in a shop for little kids?". He said yup back to me and I snapped back "Ok have a good life ruining little kids trips to toys r us". After that I walked away. Cool dude alert.
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Post by Flair Forever on Jul 10, 2013 17:53:20 GMT -5
No hate, good discussion topic... Two things.... 1. No figure is worth camping out overnight for. My belief is that if I can't find it at retail - then Mattel failed, with their poor distribution practices.... This is a corporation - any corporation that I know would be horrified to know that money is being left on the table (people unable to find these figures) or being pocketed by scalpers and a secondary market.... think about it like this: Mattel should be looking at production numbers & sales. If they sold, say 10,000 cases of, say E21 - logic dictates they should probably produce 11,000 sets of E22 (or more, depending on how quickly they sold out). Since a new wave only hits once every two months - They should be producing enough sets to be on shelves, only running low about when the next wave is set to hit. If they're not producing figures this way - they're leaving money on the table - and I haven't lost anything - Mattel did. If figures are this hard to find, then they aren't making enough and that's Mattel's loss - not mine. I'm not going to lose sleep over a wrestling toy. 2. I wonder if all the "scalper supporters" feel the same way in regards to WWE Live Event tickets? Let me spin you a tale, with some fun pictures to illustrate.... Tried to get tickets to Monday Night Raw in Philadelphia, 2005 I think... arrived at the arena on the "on-sale day" at about 4AM - got what we felt was a decent spot in line - maybe 150-200 people in front of us? Still should get okay seats, right? Tickets go on sale at 11, when we get to the front of the line - we get nosebleed seats. The very last row, of the very highest, very worst section. We complained to a supervisor - he told us that due to scalping (both ONLINE and IN-LINE) this was quite common - we were lucky to get seats at all, and that if we wanted GOOD seats the only way was to go through the scalpers and pay 700-800 bucks. As we looked around we realized - almost everyone had brought all their family members (even young kids) and all bought the maximum 10 tickets each. Some family had their two young kids buy 10 tickets each and the family walked away with 40 tickets. Here was our view.... that's the tag team of Hulk Hogan, John Cena, and Batista in the ring with Shawn Michaels, Triple H, and JBL.... a legendary dark match, too bad I could hardly see what the heck was happening down there... On the flip side - 2006, Hershey, PA - Did the same thing, got there at 5AM, there were probably 75 people in front of us - but they did a wristband system. Everyone was issued a numbered wristband - they would draw a number, and whoever had the lucky wristband would get to go first to the ticket window. Of course, guess whose wristband number was chosen.... MINE! It was incredible - all the WWE fans boo'd me as I strutted to the front of the line (some dude was even waving a steel chair at me). But I got front row.... as can be witnessed by the following picture, courtesy of WWE.com.... Yes, the wonderful event that I got front row for.... LIVE SEX.... and for all you scalpers, here's another photo, this one I took.... I hope Edge gives you one of these.... So what do you guys think - do the same rules apply for those who scalp WWE tickets? *EDIT: My thought - I like it when the Corporation screws the scalpers - kind of like the time Edge scr..... eh, guess I'll keep it clean....
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 10, 2013 17:58:56 GMT -5
No hate, good discussion topic... Two things.... 1. No figure is worth camping out overnight for. My belief is that if I can't find it at retail - then Mattel failed, with their poor distribution practices.... This is a corporation - any corporation that I know would be horrified to know that money is being left on the table (people unable to find these figures) or being pocketed by scalpers.... think about it like this: Mattel should be looking at production numbers & sales. If they sold, say 10,000 cases of, say E21 - logic dictates they should probably produce 11,000 sets of E22 (or more, depending on how quickly they sold out). Since a new wave only hits once every two months - They should be producing enough sets to be on shelves, only running low about when the next wave is set to hit. If they're not producing figures this way - they're leaving money on the table - and I haven't lost anything - Mattel did. If figures are this hard to find, then they aren't making enough and that's Mattel's loss - not mine. I'm not going to lose sleep over a wrestling toy. 2. I wonder if all the "scalper supporters" feel the same way in regards to WWE Live Event tickets? Let me spin you a tale, with some fun pictures to illustrate.... Tried to get tickets to Monday Night Raw in Philadelphia, 2005 I think... arrived at the arena on the "on-sale day" at about 4AM - got what we felt was a decent spot in line - maybe 150-200 people in front of us? Still should get okay seats, right? Tickets go on sale at 11, when we get to the front of the line - we get nosebleed seats. The very last row, of the very highest, very worst section behind the titan-tron. We complained to a supervisor - he told us that due to scalping (both ONLINE and IN-LINE) this was quite common - we were lucky to get seats at all, and that if we wanted GOOD seats the only way was to go through the scalpers and pay 700-800 bucks. As we looked around we realized - almost everyone had brought all their family members (even young kids) and all bought the maximum 10 tickets each. Some family had their two young kids buy 10 tickets each and the family walked away with 40 tickets. On the flip side - 2006, Hershey, PA - Did the same thing, got there at 5AM, there were probably 75 people in front of us - but they did a wristband system. Everyone was issued a numbered wristband - they would draw a number, and whoever had the lucky wristband would get to go first to the ticket window. Of course, guess whose wristband number was chosen.... MINE! It was incredible - all the WWE fans boo'd me as I strutted to the front of the line (some dude was even waving a steel chair at me). But I got front row.... as can be witnessed by the following pictures, courtesy of WWE.com.... Yes, the wonderful event that I got front row for.... LIVE SEX.... and for all you scalpers, here's another photo, this one I took.... I hope Edge gives you one of these.... So what do you guys think - do the same rules apply for those who scalp WWE tickets? This should be locked now. You won.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 18:01:46 GMT -5
I dont like it but there is nothing wrong with it though.
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Post by Agent_Bradley on Jul 10, 2013 18:12:03 GMT -5
I'm fine with how my WWE figure collecting is going. I do believe in the "thrill of the hunt", but sometimes if I've gone to a ton of stores and still no luck, I get annoyed. Not that I won't find it, it's that I haven't found it YET. It's also kind of fun to get friends and family looking for me too. I'll just let em know which ones I'm looking for, and when they're out shopping, they'll search for me too. It makes it fun for everybody. Like an easter egg hunt or something!
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Post by JoeRocco420 on Jul 10, 2013 19:01:54 GMT -5
It sux I guess but what can you do. Life is not fair. Sucks to suck ya know. If a store gets 1 case of elites, then the only way for u to get what U want is to be there right when they open. If its 1 fig Per case, scalper or not, u need to know ur stores shipping routine and be there early.
Lets not forget supply and demand. I sold my Nash that i preorderd from RSC for $100 on eBay. I didnt set the price, the public bid it up to that. I never saw Nash at retail. I wound up finding him on eBay months later for $28 shipped! I wish I pre ordered 3 of them to re sell!
I found an extra Zack Ryder at Kmart when his first elite hit, sold it on eBay for $65. Supply and demand
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Post by The Highwayman on Jul 10, 2013 20:10:21 GMT -5
I can deal with extra hunting if some scalper needs 15 Tensai figures to sell for $40 a piece on eBay. The thig that bothers me is the kids who miss out on the toys because their mom or dad won't be willing to drive all over just for one figure. Nor will they spend tons on eBay. Scalpers do nothing but hurt the business. I made this point earlier. Didn't stick, get ready for an unreasonable sh*t-storm. Haha, good to know. I'll be prepping for the storm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 20:32:45 GMT -5
Years ago the Blue Blazer from Jakks was scalped and sold for over a hundred dollars. I was patient. That was in 1999. I finally got one for $5 in 2009. I had to wait 10 years but I finally got one. So for the scalpers I give you the middle finger salute.
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Post by wrestlingfan2011 on Jul 10, 2013 20:42:42 GMT -5
Scalpers sometimes literally camp out in front of Toys R Us on shipping days before they open, run in when they open, grab all the good stuff, and leave. How, may I ask, do you suggest to get there before them? agree with this guy, and one point yeah they get every figure but you get nothing and then they get new sets and what happens the same... that is why alot of people cant find figures in there areas... i still hate scalpers...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 21:43:47 GMT -5
I'm so happy my store has a no more than 2 of the same figure policy reminds me of last year when I was really into the durant's, lebron's and Kobe's. footlocker and Nike would put up a no more than 2 pairs. people still brought out their whole families though to buy out the stores. no respect for scalpers. such bums.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 10, 2013 21:57:41 GMT -5
I'm sure I am going to get hated to no end for this thread, but I have to get this off my chest. I am so tired of hearing members here complain about scalping. It's nonsense.... Look, if a store puts them on the shelf, the first person to get to them is entitled to buy however many of them he wants. It's there money. Deal with it....If they choose to buy every Elite figure that you just happen to want and turn around and sell them for 3 times as much, so be it. You should have got to the store earlier. Besides, if people were not doing this, every store would probably be clogged to the max with figures and we would never get new sets in. I personally do no go out looking to flip a figure for a profit, but I have on occasion picked up an extra figure to trade or sell to get money for another figure that I normally couldn't find at retail anymore or was too expensive to purchase anymore. I'm a bad guy for doing that? Why is it celebrated here when somebody buys 5 AJ Lee figures and breaks them apart to customize them, but when somebody buys 5 AJ's to resell them it is wrong? Seems like a double standard there if you ask me. Bottom line is, if you want the saught after figures at retail, get up and look for them. The "scalpers" can find them, so can you. This thread is sounding awfully familiar.
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Post by | NLS™ | on Jul 11, 2013 1:34:32 GMT -5
Yup. I agree with the OP 100%! But people are always gonna bitch 'n complain about EVERYTHING. So there really is no point in making this thread. It won't stop any crying.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 11, 2013 1:34:44 GMT -5
I'm sure I am going to get hated to no end for this thread, but I have to get this off my chest. I am so tired of hearing members here complain about scalping. It's nonsense.... Look, if a store puts them on the shelf, the first person to get to them is entitled to buy however many of them he wants. It's there money. Deal with it..... The whole "scalper hate" phenomenon isn't just limited to this forum. I've seen it on numerous toy related sites that I frequent, but it was here that I first learned that some collectors look down on flipping collectibles for profit. The central fact about figure collecting is that the collecting body as a whole is responsible for the market. There are some collectors who pay several times the production cost of a figure because it's a convention exclusive ( I just did that, in fact ), while others will pay $300 or more for a Hot Toys figure that is essentially a detailed Barbie Doll that looks like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne. If there is a variant, production error, or protoype, we'll open our wallets and often pay enormous prices for those. As with any hobby, some collectors are willing to pay premiums. As long as there is a demand, there will be suppliers. Is it overkill for someone to buy 5 of a same figure or clean out an entire section of a toy aisle just to resell them? There is some validity to that. Yet I see WFigs users and other collectors who take it so personally that they want to belittle a so-called "scalper" in public or perhaps even fight the person. That's far, far worse than someone going to extremes when flipping figures. In fact, it might get you in serious trouble. It might be hard to accept, but the simple truth is that we as collectors are the catalyst for secondary market premiums. Without the demand from us, there would be no one trying to find those figures to offer them to us for inflated prices.
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Post by figurehunting101 on Jul 11, 2013 2:21:24 GMT -5
it doesnt bother me really but I get upset sometimes when people are working their butts off at a job from 9-5 monday through friday and only have the time to go to a store on the way home from work only to find everything gone because someone doesnt wants to take the easy way out and not get a job. Now this is not my case but I know people who have a M-F 9-5 job and they get not mad but just upset because collecting is hard for them.
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Post by 5D's on Jul 11, 2013 5:56:03 GMT -5
No hate, good discussion topic... Two things.... 1. No figure is worth camping out overnight for. My belief is that if I can't find it at retail - then Mattel failed, with their poor distribution practices.... This is a corporation - any corporation that I know would be horrified to know that money is being left on the table (people unable to find these figures) or being pocketed by scalpers and a secondary market.... think about it like this: Mattel should be looking at production numbers & sales. If they sold, say 10,000 cases of, say E21 - logic dictates they should probably produce 11,000 sets of E22 (or more, depending on how quickly they sold out). Since a new wave only hits once every two months - They should be producing enough sets to be on shelves, only running low about when the next wave is set to hit. If they're not producing figures this way - they're leaving money on the table - and I haven't lost anything - Mattel did. If figures are this hard to find, then they aren't making enough and that's Mattel's loss - not mine. I'm not going to lose sleep over a wrestling toy. 2. I wonder if all the "scalper supporters" feel the same way in regards to WWE Live Event tickets? Let me spin you a tale, with some fun pictures to illustrate.... Tried to get tickets to Monday Night Raw in Philadelphia, 2005 I think... arrived at the arena on the "on-sale day" at about 4AM - got what we felt was a decent spot in line - maybe 150-200 people in front of us? Still should get okay seats, right? Tickets go on sale at 11, when we get to the front of the line - we get nosebleed seats. The very last row, of the very highest, very worst section. We complained to a supervisor - he told us that due to scalping (both ONLINE and IN-LINE) this was quite common - we were lucky to get seats at all, and that if we wanted GOOD seats the only way was to go through the scalpers and pay 700-800 bucks. As we looked around we realized - almost everyone had brought all their family members (even young kids) and all bought the maximum 10 tickets each. Some family had their two young kids buy 10 tickets each and the family walked away with 40 tickets. --- So what do you guys think - do the same rules apply for those who scalp WWE tickets? *EDIT: My thought - I like it when the Corporation screws the scalpers - kind of like the time Edge scr..... eh, guess I'll keep it clean.... Well said. Ticket scalpers have ruined many a PPV for me and I seriously wish they'd just drop dead. I like to travel to as many PPVs as possible but no way am I dumping an extra $1K in their despicable pockets. Figure scalpers are like the small-time, third rate version of the same garbage; they're a nuisance, but they can often be outsmarted, unlike the ticket ones.
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Post by mrtheiphonekid on Jul 11, 2013 6:33:57 GMT -5
My brother is 11 years old and he goes figure hunting with me frequently. When we go to a store, and he's looking for that figure he's been wanting, and they didnt have it, he's really disappointed. FOR FIVE SECONDS! You guys act like because of somebody buying extra figures to sell, you're crushing kids souls! Not even close. If somebody wants to buy more than 1 of a figure to sell the other, then thats their decision. Honestly, if the kid wanted the figure as bad as you people are making it seem like, he'd go online and buy the figure. And don't you dare come at me with "But then he'll have to pay scalper prices online." Because if I wanted a figure that bad, to the point where it was "crushing my dreams", I wouldn't mind paying an extra couple bucks for it.
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Post by mrtheiphonekid on Jul 11, 2013 6:47:54 GMT -5
I'm fine with how my WWE figure collecting is going. I do believe in the "thrill of the hunt", but sometimes if I've gone to a ton of stores and still no luck, I get annoyed. Not that I won't find it, it's that I haven't found it YET. It's also kind of fun to get friends and family looking for me too. I'll just let em know which ones I'm looking for, and when they're out shopping, they'll search for me too. It makes it fun for everybody. Like an easter egg hunt or something! Yes! How boring would it be if you just walked into the store and they had the fig you wanted, every time.
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Post by Joey Eches on Jul 11, 2013 6:54:59 GMT -5
I'm going to keep it short and simple, is there anything wrong with it, not at all, is it a dick move? Kinda.
Mind you I've been guilty of buying more than one of the same figure to resell, I guess I sorta felt guilty, but honestly, yeah, I got them fair and square.
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Jul 11, 2013 7:23:48 GMT -5
I like how some people need logical arguments against being plain greedy.
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