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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 13:15:50 GMT -5
So Mr. Perfect is my second favorite wrestler of all time (right behind Bret Hart). I think most fans can agree that Mr. Perfect should or could have won the WWF Championship at some point and I fully agree. I think most people feel his feud with Hulk Hogan would have been the right time but I disagree. I think 1993 was the "perfect time". Hear me out... Mr. Perfect had turned on Bobby Heenan and Ric Flair and was VERY over as a face. He beat Flair on Raw and sent him packing back to WCW. Sadly, he ended up losing to Lex Luger at Wrestlemania 9 but made up for it by having an amazing match with Bret Hart at King of the Ring in literally my favorite match of all time. I think with some booking changes, Perfect could've won the big one in 1993. First of all, I would have booked Bret to go over Yokozuna at Wrestlemania 9. Period. Yokozuna would then go on to feud with Hogan until King of the Ring where Yoko would beat Hogan under the same circumstances and send him packing...only it wouldn't be for the title. I would also keep Luger heel and maybe have him lose to Perfect at Wrestlemania 9 by DQ or countout after using the forearm. Either way we would have none of that failed "Lex Express" stuff and he would feud with someone else during the summer (Macho Man maybe). I would have Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect in the main event of King of the Ring 1993 with Perfect going over. The two would then have a rematch at Summerslam 1993 with Bret Hart getting the title back and the two shaking hands. Not only would we get probably the best matches of all time but Perfect would get a nice little two month run with the title. Since Bret wouldn't be in the King of the Ring tournament, I'd probably have Luger or Bigelow win the thing and give them a big push against Bret after Summerslam in a feud for the title. Thoughts? How would you book Perfect to win the WWF title?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 13:25:58 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect vs. Ric Flair for the WWE Title at Survivor Series 92 for sure.
Randy Savage vs. Bret Hart in the number 1 contender spot for the belt.
British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels for the IC Belt.
That's how Survivor Series 92 should have gone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 13:34:05 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect vs. Ric Flair for the WWE Title at Survivor Series 92 for sure. Randy Savage vs. Bret Hart in the number 1 contender spot for the belt. British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels for the IC Belt. That's how Survivor Series 92 should have gone. I like that idea too but I did enjoy how Perfect turned on Flair/Heenan to tag with Macho Man against Flair/Razor at Survivor Series. Perfect was really underrated as a face during late '92 and through '93. He was super over.
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Post by Barney Stinson on Jul 16, 2013 15:09:09 GMT -5
I truly believe that Mr. Perfect would have been WWF Champion, but the timing was always off with injuries and what not. Then when he finally had the opportunity to more than likely be WWF Champion, he chose to jump and get paid more and be a mid card guy in WCW. Think about it, the WWF roster was so thin in late 96 and 97, that there was no doubt Perfect would be on top. Add to that his natural feuds with both Shawn Michaels & Bret Hart and I have no doubt that Perfect would have been WWF Champion in 1997 if not 1998. So the reason Mr. Perfect never won the WWF Championship was..... Mr. Perfect. He chose money over the WWF Championship, which was his choice. Maybe he didn't care as much as fans as whether he ever got to be WWF Champion. Maybe the AWA and IC belt were satisfying enough for him. We'll never know.
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Post by koreygunz on Jul 16, 2013 15:40:26 GMT -5
Yea, I cant really think of a time where the timing would be right and it would make sense for Perfect to have been champion.
His 1990 feud with Hogan was decent, but I dont think the audience would have bought him being able to beat Hogan. Plus they were building up to Hogan vs Warrior, and since the plan was to put Warrior over it wouldnt make sense to have Hogan drop it to Perfect, get it back, and then drop it again to Warrior.
In late 92 or 93 would probably have been the best chance, but again the timing would feel off. I could MAYBE see it if Flair had held on to the title in the fall instead of dropping it to Bret, Perfect's face turn goes down as it did, and leads to a feud with Flair where he takes the title from Flair in early 93. But again, Bret was being groomed as the next "guy" so they went with him. And beating Flair for the title gave him more of a rub than beating Perfect for it would have. A heel Perfect as champion feuding with Bret over the title might have been cool though.
Perfect wasnt gonna get the title in 97/98. He just wasnt.
Mr. Perfect was a great wrestler and played a very effective heel and a good face as well, but the timing was just never quite right for a title run. Being one of the greatest IC champions ever isnt too bad either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 15:46:39 GMT -5
I still think he was popular enough and over enough in 1993 to get the belt....even if it was a short run.
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Post by Raine on Jul 16, 2013 16:12:28 GMT -5
There was no real gap except for a short reign during 1990 or 1993 and he was worth more than that, probably best he never got to hold it, than have it for 2 months and be classed as "transitonal" or flop.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 16:24:25 GMT -5
I understand the "transitional champ" argument but he and Bret would have torn the house down for that belt thus making both guys more popular than ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 6:44:39 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect vs. Ric Flair for the WWE Title at Survivor Series 92 for sure. Randy Savage vs. Bret Hart in the number 1 contender spot for the belt. British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels for the IC Belt. That's how Survivor Series 92 should have gone. I wonder was HBK originally to go over Bulldog for the IC title at SS92?I have always wondered that.man Smith screwed himself badly here. I think the notions Bash lays out are pretty effin decent.I wouldn't have objected to that at all. either that or Perfect gets Slaughters slot at RR91.you still get Savage interefering etc...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 7:10:21 GMT -5
I love BCW's idea. They could have also like Joker said given him Slaughter's run from Rumble 91 to WM7. Hogan and Perfect would have had a good match at Wrestlemania, too. The Slaughter one was even worse than Hogan/Sid. Mr. Perfect vs. Ric Flair for the WWE Title at Survivor Series 92 for sure. Randy Savage vs. Bret Hart in the number 1 contender spot for the belt. British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels for the IC Belt. That's how Survivor Series 92 should have gone. I wonder was HBK originally to go over Bulldog for the IC title at SS92?I have always wondered that.man Smith screwed himself badly here. I think the notions Bash lays out are pretty effin decent.I wouldn't have objected to that at all. either that or Perfect gets Slaughters slot at RR91.you still get Savage interefering etc... Nah, the original plan was for Bret vs Shawn in a ladder match at Summerslam. It was Bret's idea to drop it to Davey with it being in the UK.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 17, 2013 7:23:05 GMT -5
I would just have Perfect turn on Flair like he did for Survivor Series. Then have Flair carry the title until the Royal Rumble. Perfect comes out and distracts Flair, costing him the title against Bret Hart, Perfect goes on to win the Royal Rumble. Flair demands he's the #1 contender and wants his Rematch at Wrestlemania 9, Perfect says he's the number 1 contender. They have a match on Raw, winner is #1 contender, loser leaves town match. Perfect wins, Hart vs Perfect for the title at Wrestlemania 9
You could then let Perfect get the run with the title until KOTR where he drops it back to Hart and Yokozuna wins KOTR and then you can start the Hart-Yoko feud at SummerSlam
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jul 17, 2013 8:37:40 GMT -5
Great topic! I like Brash's plan and it makes the most sense. Hogan, Yoko, Lex, Hart, and Perfect are too many names in the title picture. Although I don't think Yoko/Hogan would have been any good without the belt involved.
I think Perfect should have went over Hart at KOTR anyways. Or at they very least, beat HBK at Summerslam for his 3rd IC title.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 17, 2013 15:40:26 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect vs. Ric Flair for the WWE Title at Survivor Series 92 for sure. Randy Savage vs. Bret Hart in the number 1 contender spot for the belt. British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels for the IC Belt. That's how Survivor Series 92 should have gone. I wonder was HBK originally to go over Bulldog for the IC title at SS92?I have always wondered that.man Smith screwed himself badly here. I think the notions Bash lays out are pretty effin decent.I wouldn't have objected to that at all. either that or Perfect gets Slaughters slot at RR91.you still get Savage interefering etc... I actually remember reading somewhere the Bulldog was supposed to have a lengthy IC title reign. As for the topic, like someone mentioned, there was never really a time where he could have held the title without it being a fairly short reign. A short reign for Perfect could go like this, - Savage drops the title to Flair after Summerslam (help from Perfect, not Razor) - Flair/Perfect vs Savage/Bret at Survivor Series 1992 (Savage chooses Bret Hart as his partner) - Flair/Perfect lose the match. Have Heenan/Flair blame Perfect in the ring after the match. Perfect hits Flair & Heenan. Turns face. - Flair drops the title to Perfect on Prime Time Wrestling after Survivor Series - Bret Hart challenges Mr. Perfect for the title at Royal Rumble 1993. Bret Hart wins title. They shake hands after the match. And then keep everything the same with Yokozuna winning the Rumble, Flair/Perfect on Raw, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 17:53:30 GMT -5
I love BCW's idea. They could have also like Joker said given him Slaughter's run from Rumble 91 to WM7. Hogan and Perfect would have had a good match at Wrestlemania, too. The Slaughter one was even worse than Hogan/Sid. I wonder was HBK originally to go over Bulldog for the IC title at SS92?I have always wondered that.man Smith screwed himself badly here. I think the notions Bash lays out are pretty effin decent.I wouldn't have objected to that at all. either that or Perfect gets Slaughters slot at RR91.you still get Savage interefering etc... Nah, the original plan was for Bret vs Shawn in a ladder match at Summerslam. It was Bret's idea to drop it to Davey with it being in the UK. sorry man I was talking about the other SS,Survivor Series.I think I read that Smith was to have a long reign but of course he shot himself in the foot so badly.Vince would employ him gaain obviously but would NEVER forgive him for the combined whammy of this and how he turned up at Summerslam 92.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 18, 2013 8:09:13 GMT -5
A match him beating bret is the only way I can see it playing out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 13:27:40 GMT -5
I agree with you and I think the way you have it booked OP is well..... PERFECT.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 13:50:07 GMT -5
I would of had perfect beat Flair for the Belt at Summerslam 92 with a slow face turn built around Flair eliminating Perfect at the 92 Rumble on the way to winning the belt then beginning to push perfect around at the same time relying on perfects help to retain the title. Finally perfect has enough and beats Savage in a #1 contenders match for the belt. After being browbeat by flair enough they still the show at Summerlam 92 Imagine hart v bulldog and Flair v Perfect on the same card. Perfect Holds onto the Belt till The Royal Rumble where Yokozuna Beats Him then hart wins the Rumble and get the belt at WM 9
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jul 22, 2013 0:03:13 GMT -5
Perfect was rehabing a back injury in 92, hence his Exec Consultant role.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 5:59:15 GMT -5
Perfect was rehabing a back injury in 92, hence his Exec Consultant role. He was but he worked survivor series 92 that's the thing about fantasy booking u can book what you would of looked to see
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 8:03:00 GMT -5
I would of also used perfect coming out of retirement for the rumble solely for the chance of being champ to put over how important the title was
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