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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jul 22, 2013 10:06:43 GMT -5
What?? It's one of the most acclaimed Batman graphic novels of all time. Dark Knight Returns is the acclaimed one. Dark Knight Strikes Again was the crappy sequel that basically no one liked. Ahh, really? I thought they both were. Guess I need to do my homework a little more, but I still think Strikes Again would make a sick movie just because it was so frantic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 11:15:27 GMT -5
so according to AICN Goyer and co say Dark Knight Returns will be the comic that helps them make this.......make you wonder what they are going for.
Im also very excited about The Flash....hopefully there a cameo from someone else in here too.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 22, 2013 11:44:48 GMT -5
I'm excited for Flash but considering Green Lantern should have been a sure fire hit and instead WB completely botched it I have some reservations.
As for Goyer saying they are using Dark Knight Returns as a base point I'm confused as to where they are coming from. This isn't going to be a rookie Batman or another origin story (which is good) but the Dark Knight Returns was about Batman coming out of retirement. Maybe he means just some elements. Either way as long as Nolan is kept away from this I think it'll be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 12:16:33 GMT -5
he is listed as an exec producer on this.but he has stated himself on the MOS press tour he wouldn't be as involved in any of the movies going forward because he is currently busy working on Interstellar and a script that he has read and loves that will be his movie after that.
so I doubt he will be as involved as he was in MOS.but yeah Cordless Im confused as to what direction this will take too.
but that being said-Im very excited for this.
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Post by Scotty on Jul 22, 2013 12:25:12 GMT -5
Not a fan of superman but Batman is my favorite, so I guess I'm looking forward to this :/
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 22, 2013 22:48:18 GMT -5
If Channing Tatum or Jake Gyllenhaal are Batman I'm going to stick my head in the microwave and end it all so I don't have to suffer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 10:07:30 GMT -5
If Channing Tatum or Jake Gyllenhaal are Batman I'm going to stick my head in the microwave and end it all so I don't have to suffer. good grief.....I wouldn't want either of those at all. my $$ is still on Armie Hammer.
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Post by Ben on Jul 23, 2013 14:47:52 GMT -5
i've always thought the dc universe was pretty one dimensional and boring, especially compared to marvel. i really hope this isn't dc playing catch up,which is what it looks like to me. that doesn't mean i'm not gonna check out the movie, i definitely will.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 16:00:10 GMT -5
I've got to wonder if with all of this talk of Dark Knight returns as laying the groundwork that they are gonna jump ahead another number of years.....Bruce wayne could be cast as a bit older and still in retirement, in hiding as he was at the end of DKR....Superman by now could have become a symbol/tool for the government causing mistrust from Bruce which prompts him to put on the cape n cowl again to invesigate and try to find out what this alien being is really all about-prompting a confrontation with Superman himself....since Superman can obviously still not show sighns of aging we could still get the same actor while we could get another actor to play an aging Bruce.
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Post by noir on Jul 23, 2013 16:12:53 GMT -5
I don't get why people are concerned that this may not stick to source material, or saying that Nolan didn't do Batman justice.
A film should be a good film first and foremost. Who cares how closely it sticks to the source material, especially when Burton did a good job of a close adaptation some thirty years ago. The comics are the comics and besides, it's way too hard to generalize 'comics' anyway as there are plenty of terrible batman stories. Nolan's priority is being a great film maker and as a result he made the best superhero film to date.
Joss Whedon made a 'good adaptation' and sure it was great film too... alongside being juvenile/silly/shallow. As a film fan over a comic fan, which will apply to 90% of the people who see this, I want to see a GOOD FILM. Nolan has proven he is the best man so far in that department and that is why he is realistically the best candidate for the job, in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 17:27:17 GMT -5
I really don't know who could play Batman. It would be so weird for me to see someone that isn't Christian Bale playing the role after the last 3 movies. I wouldn't rule him out yet.
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Post by Suckasays on Jul 23, 2013 21:38:01 GMT -5
I don't get why people are concerned that this may not stick to source material, or saying that Nolan didn't do Batman justice. A film should be a good film first and foremost. Who cares how closely it sticks to the source material, especially when Burton did a good job of a close adaptation some thirty years ago. The comics are the comics and besides, it's way too hard to generalize 'comics' anyway as there are plenty of terrible batman stories. Nolan's priority is being a great film maker and as a result he made the best superhero film to date. Joss Whedon made a 'good adaptation' and sure it was great film too... alongside being juvenile/silly/shallow. As a film fan over a comic fan, which will apply to 90% of the people who see this, I want to see a GOOD FILM. Nolan has proven he is the best man so far in that department and that is why he is realistically the best candidate for the job, in my opinion. I agree. I can see both points. I mean, I heard so many people whine and moan about little details being left out of "book movies" such as Potter, etc. But I think that's when you change things up for comic movies it just works better than it does with book movies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 12:08:45 GMT -5
A film should be a good film first and foremost. Who cares how closely it sticks to the source material, especially when Burton did a good job of a close adaptation some thirty years ago. The comics are the comics and besides, it's way too hard to generalize 'comics' anyway as there are plenty of terrible batman stories. Nolan's priority is being a great film maker and as a result he made the best superhero film to date. . the best Superhero movie to date........in YOUR opinion.IMO he hasn't even made the best Batman movie.also I have enjoyed the Marvel movies as much and more as Nolans much revered Bat trilogy of which Begins is easily the best. now back OT part of me thinks this is savage knee jerk reaction from WB because they don't have the confidence in a straight MOS sequel to compete with Avengers II in 2015......so they are throwing their $$$ Man Batman in there too.if this is their thought process Im confused as to why they feel it has to be a competition.MOS didn't beat the 1st IMs take.....which is a tad worrying considering IM was a cinematic nobody in 2008 where as Superman is much more of a household name. after much thought I think Cavill needs another movie as Supes without sharing the screen with a new Batman which is what everyone and their Ma will be talking about.
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Post by noir on Jul 24, 2013 12:28:43 GMT -5
A film should be a good film first and foremost. Who cares how closely it sticks to the source material, especially when Burton did a good job of a close adaptation some thirty years ago. The comics are the comics and besides, it's way too hard to generalize 'comics' anyway as there are plenty of terrible batman stories. Nolan's priority is being a great film maker and as a result he made the best superhero film to date. . the best Superhero movie to date........in YOUR opinion.IMO he hasn't even made the best Batman movie.also I have enjoyed the Marvel movies as much and more as Nolans much revered Bat trilogy of which Begins is easily the best. Not just my opinion. Objectively his films were the best. Just like Bergman is a better film maker than Kevin Smith, Nolan is a better film maker than anyone involved in the Marvel projects. Not that I'm saying Christopher Nolan is on the same level as Ingmar Bergman but you know. Believe me, I love Whedon and Favreau but just because joker didn't have bleached skin, or just because bane was a mere henchman, or whatever, the Nolan films WERE all better in petty much every aspect that a film should be judged. I say juggle the source material all you want if it makes a better film.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 12:46:18 GMT -5
yeah objectively......that doesn't mean thing to me.I have only enjoyed Inception outside of Nolans Bat stuff...he just doesn't do it for me at all.so yeah it is just your opinion.just like the above is mine.
also Im not against juggling the source material at all.Marvel studios have done that with great success...and plan to do it again with Ultron.
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Post by noir on Jul 24, 2013 13:41:23 GMT -5
Subjectivity only goes so far. if someone said Uwe Boll was the greatest film maker of all time, you wouldn't refute it?
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Post by Jacob on Jul 24, 2013 13:59:32 GMT -5
In a way, I'm glad David S Goyer is helping to write the movie. I guess we'll still get a grounded Bruce Wayne/Batman.
He also says that they're unsure who's name will appear first in the title. Batman or Superman. From what he's saying, the movie will be called Batman vs. Superman or Superman vs. Batman.
I hope they add a tag line or at least call it The Worlds Finest: Batman vs. Superman.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 10:27:18 GMT -5
Subjectivity only goes so far. if someone said Uwe Boll was the greatest film maker of all time, you wouldn't refute it? yeah....that's completely different in my book.but that's just me. anyway back OT.I don't want a grounded Batman....time to move away from that please WB/Goyer/Snyder.I also think Batman vs Superman ir anything that uses vs is a dreadful notion. Batman/Superman:Worlds Finest is the way to go.I would also use the Public Enemies storyline as the basis of this.I don't see what possible use DKR can be in this respect. I also wonder who the enemy will be?oh man Im rooting for this to be good so badly!!
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 25, 2013 12:30:48 GMT -5
I would just call the new movie The World's Finest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 6:18:43 GMT -5
the amount of folks online that genuinely seem to think this will be a continuation of Nolans trilogy is unreal.....they need to let that go or face serious disappointment.
Nolan must have a sore throat by now saying that he is done with Batman,Bale too.hell Nolan has said on the MOS press tour that his involvement with future Superman/DC stuff will be minimal because he will be concentrating soley on Interstellar.....
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