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Post by nDroo73 on Jul 22, 2013 15:23:30 GMT -5
How much was the Elite Scale Ring before Big Lots had them for $30? I ask because I just saw the MitB play set at TRU for $64.99. For $64.99 I would much rather have an ESR with steps and maybe a couple of tables thrown in or something. Judging by the prices being paid on eBay, there are a bunch of others that wouldn't hesitate to do the same. I know Mattel has cancelled scale rings since, but did they say they will NEVER do one again, or is this something worth waiting for?
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Post by PJ on Jul 22, 2013 15:28:39 GMT -5
When TRU had it it was either $60 or $65
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Post by qdogg on Jul 22, 2013 15:28:53 GMT -5
It was pretty price, around 75 bucks I think. Cant remember exactly but it was up there lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 16:01:55 GMT -5
60-70 bucks
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Post by nDroo73 on Jul 22, 2013 16:23:56 GMT -5
Thanks all! Yeah, that price would cause it to sit when those basic rings are sitting there for far less. From what I understand, the wwe Mattel line has really picked up in popularity in the last year to year and a half(heck, they got a hold of me in May of this year), so why not give the ESR another shot? Especially if they see that people are paying double or more of what it was at retail.
Another question, a local target has all of their rings(raw,SS,smack down) on clearance for about $10. Is this something that happens every year to make room for basic rings with updated stickers or is something entirely new on the way?
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 22, 2013 17:08:58 GMT -5
Hopefully no one buys that MITB playset and mattel finally takes the hint that we want bigger rings!
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 22, 2013 17:30:19 GMT -5
Thanks all! Yeah, that price would cause it to sit when those basic rings are sitting there for far less. From what I understand, the wwe Mattel line has really picked up in popularity in the last year to year and a half(heck, they got a hold of me in May of this year), so why not give the ESR another shot? Retailers don't want it. A few dozen people on the internet paying hundreds doesn't mean that thousands of people will pay $60-70. |
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 22, 2013 17:43:06 GMT -5
I think it was $60.
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Post by nDroo73 on Jul 22, 2013 17:43:15 GMT -5
Thanks all! Yeah, that price would cause it to sit when those basic rings are sitting there for far less. From what I understand, the wwe Mattel line has really picked up in popularity in the last year to year and a half(heck, they got a hold of me in May of this year), so why not give the ESR another shot? Retailers don't want it. A few dozen people on the internet paying hundreds doesn't mean that thousands of people will pay $60-70. So are we heading in to a time of no rings available for purchase unless its in an overpriced playset? The rings in stores now sit forever at $20-$25 and now a target is sitting on about 10 at $9.98 On clearance. I understand retailers not wanting to stock it but they could easily make it a Mattel Shop exclusive and not worry about that. Its just that MITB set makes no sense at $65. That's quite a price to pay for something that holds a briefcase over a ring everyone has (just different stickers and rope color), and a briefcase and ladders you could already have with figures. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 22, 2013 17:49:00 GMT -5
As a MattelShop exclusive, it'd be a smaller production run so it'd cost more, same as RSC exclusives cost more than regular elites at retail, and MattyCollector legends cost more than legends at retail. So we'd be looking at $80-100 plus shipping. And they'd still have to sell a couple thousand to break even. Won't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 15:04:17 GMT -5
As a MattelShop exclusive, it'd be a smaller production run so it'd cost more, same as RSC exclusives cost more than regular elites at retail, and MattyCollector legends cost more than legends at retail. So we'd be looking at $80-100 plus shipping. And they'd still have to sell a couple thousand to break even. Won't happen. Sometimes breaking even on a certain item(s) that your diehard fans/collectors want isn't a bad thing. They could withstand breaking even on some "collector type stuff" as much as they are making off all of us at retail Come on Matty!! |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 23, 2013 16:30:48 GMT -5
As a MattelShop exclusive, it'd be a smaller production run so it'd cost more, same as RSC exclusives cost more than regular elites at retail, and MattyCollector legends cost more than legends at retail. So we'd be looking at $80-100 plus shipping. And they'd still have to sell a couple thousand to break even. Won't happen. Sometimes breaking even on a certain item(s) that your diehard fans/collectors want isn't a bad thing. They could withstand breaking even on some "collector type stuff" as much as they are making off all of us at retail Come on Matty!! They are a business, not a wrestling fan charity. They are not going to willingly lose tens of thousands of dollars (minimum) on an item just to make a few hundred people on a forum happy. And even if they tried, half of us would still complain about the price, like when the legends moved to MattyCollector. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 16:43:59 GMT -5
Sometimes breaking even on a certain item(s) that your diehard fans/collectors want isn't a bad thing. They could withstand breaking even on some "collector type stuff" as much as they are making off all of us at retail Come on Matty!! They are a business, not a wrestling fan charity. They are not going to willingly lose tens of thousands of dollars (minimum) on an item just to make a few hundred people on a forum happy. And even if they tried, half of us would still complain about the price, like when the legends moved to MattyCollector. Yeah I understand the not losing $ but that's not what I said. Breaking even isn't losing. It's satisfying a fanbase. These few "hundred" collectors spend a crapload of $ with Mattel buying 75% of everything the put out. You're right we might bitch and moan about prices on Matty BUT we cave eventually and if you don't you sure wish you did now. I fully understand Mattel is a business but so is their Goldrn Child MOTU and they seem to cater to their wants and needs. As a WWE collector I would like a 10th of the respect? is that the word? That they give those MOTU people. To build a Castle Greyskull that costs out the ass on a pre order sign up to fund the project!! Give WWE collectors a chance at some different items like that. They could be surprised And yes I could be wrong about the Castle Greyskull. I just remember something along those lines. I don't collect them just going off memory |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 23, 2013 16:51:28 GMT -5
Yeah I understand the not losing $ but that's not what I said. Breaking even isn't losing. They would have to sell at the very least a couple thousand units to break even. And that number could be as high as 5000 units. They would not sell thousands of these rings online. Thus they would not break even. Regardless, as I said, they are a business. A business that makes profit by giving the customer what they want. And when it came to elite rings, or Defining Moments figures, or MattyCollector Legends, it turned out the customer didn't actually want them - at least not enough customers to make it profitable. Plus, if someone's got $100 (say $120 with shipping) to blow on an elite scale ring, they can probably get some materials and make one that's as good or better than the Mattel one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 16:56:38 GMT -5
Yeah I understand the not losing $ but that's not what I said. Breaking even isn't losing. They would have to sell at the very least a couple thousand units to break even. And that number could be as high as 5000 units. They would not sell thousands of these rings online. Thus they would not break even. Regardless, as I said, they are a business. A business that makes profit by giving the customer what they want. And when it came to elite rings, or Defining Moments figures, or MattyCollector Legends, it turned out the customer didn't actually want them - at least not enough customers to make it profitable. Plus, if someone's got $100 (say $120 with shipping) to blow on an elite scale ring, they can probably get some materials and make one that's as good or better than the Mattel one. Yeah you are right about the ring. I just in general wish Mattycollector would give us something. I (and I might be one of the few that did this) on the day they went up for sale would be ordering them if I had the funds to do so. They could give us more Arn, Tully, DDP, Bundy types and still break even or not make quite as much profit, whatever. Just wish they would give us something |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 19:11:07 GMT -5
How much was the Elite Scale Ring before Big Lots had them for $30? I ask because I just saw the MitB play set at TRU for $64.99. For $64.99 I would much rather have an ESR with steps and maybe a couple of tables thrown in or something. Judging by the prices being paid on eBay, there are a bunch of others that wouldn't hesitate to do the same. I know Mattel has cancelled scale rings since, but did they say they will NEVER do one again, or is this something worth waiting for? 1 New Mattel MitB play set sold for $100 plus $18 shipping, to a (1) feedback eBay user.... I doubt it will be paid for. |
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Post by PJ on Jul 23, 2013 19:24:46 GMT -5
Thanks all! Yeah, that price would cause it to sit when those basic rings are sitting there for far less. From what I understand, the wwe Mattel line has really picked up in popularity in the last year to year and a half(heck, they got a hold of me in May of this year), so why not give the ESR another shot? Especially if they see that people are paying double or more of what it was at retail It doesn't matter what people are paying for it after retail. Mattel makes their money from the retailers. And retailers told them no thanks to the ESR. In the economu it's easier for retailers to sell the basic rings instead of the high priced items...so they aren't going to order them. Mattel ended up having to sell the original ones to discount stores like Big Lots because the major retailers didn't want to stock them. So unless retailers decide they want to carry the large items it will not be released again, because in Mattel's eyes it was a failure. |
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