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Post by LA Times on Aug 11, 2013 13:07:46 GMT -5
I know i would have bought more of there figs had they been RA scaled atleast. I understood there marketing plan. Offer a deluxe articulation premium figure at a reasonable price to compete with Mattel. And yes there DI figs were a good value. But for me I disliked DI since I had so many characters in RI scale. For my money I was happy to spend on Mattel since they fit pretty good with RI/A. But I ended up passing on most of the DI figures with exception to a HOgan that I liked. I would have probably hit up at least one or 2 figs each series that i liked had they not been DI. There are so many wrestling action figure scales, I cant start a collection for each one. I have WCW/TNA Toybiz, RA and Mattel Basic/Elite, so I never started collecting DA/DI either. |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Aug 11, 2013 13:59:26 GMT -5
I for one would have continued to collect the line had they been made RA style.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Aug 14, 2013 23:55:22 GMT -5
I originally collected ra's one I first started but I slowly moved into deluxe figs. The articulation wasn't the best.
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Post by mrhoss on Aug 15, 2013 1:00:29 GMT -5
They should have kept the packaging as close to Classic Superstars as possible and been ready to go on 1/1/10. A seamless transition might have improved the chances of a legends-type line.
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Post by qdogg on Aug 15, 2013 3:40:42 GMT -5
I enjoy the TNA Jakks Hogan, RVD, Sting, Jeff Hardy , Kurt Angle ones. Wished I would of grabbed the Dudleys. Missed that yellow Hogan and RVD too from one of the last series.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 0:50:34 GMT -5
One of my local kmart are full stock with DI9. Too bad i don't collect jakks anymore.
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 16, 2013 2:05:08 GMT -5
They should have kept the packaging as close to Classic Superstars as possible and been ready to go on 1/1/10. A seamless transition might have improved the chances of a legends-type line. Did you see the legends packaging? It's like Jakks gave up before they even started. Look at the back of a wwe classics figure. We had the wrestler's name, stats, quotes, and memorable moments. On the back of a NWA/Tna/NJPW legends package we got nothing. Just a picture of the figure. They couldnt include any stats or notable moments. Almost like they had to pay per letter that was put on the package. To me that is just a sign that they phoned it in. |
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Post by billthomson1984 on Aug 16, 2013 6:07:10 GMT -5
LOTR 1 shouldn't of failed tbh, it had big names in it.
In fact I actually own 3 of that first set in Sting, Jarrett & Angle.
I feel if they kept classic superstars packaging minus the WWE branding then perhaps retailers might of taken a chance on series 2 and we would of gotten Cornette, Joe and AJ.
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Post by BCizzle on Aug 17, 2013 15:14:17 GMT -5
My Kmart has Legends of The Ring Terry Taylor warming the shelves This is why I'm not buying that making the figs RA/RI would have led to greater success than DI. The stores wanted the DI figures instead, which is what everybody who whines "they ignored the fans, blah, blah, blah" seems to ignore. TNA's fan base is just a lot smaller than the WWE. Just because some long-term collectors here have tons of RA figures (myself included) doesn't mean there is a big demand for that particular style - there is a big demand for WWE figures. |
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Post by Blackbird 13 on Aug 19, 2013 17:44:44 GMT -5
I totally maintain that Jakks dropped the ball in four ways.
1. The first (and biggest) issue was not having product ready to go on 1/1/10. Why? What POSSIBLE benefit do you get by waiting six months and letting your competitor trounce the past years of work and goodwill you built up. Speaking of that.
2. Jakks sandbagging the WWE line at the end hurt them.. a LOT. They clogged the shelves with worthless product... they ruined much of the aforementioned goodwill that they had built up... and they showed any other potential licensee just how they might end up treating them. If you're being paid to do a job, do it.. otherwise, don't try to get it in the first place.
3. Packaging. Like many others here.. I believe that keeping the packaging as close to (or totally) in line with the Classic Superstars line would have helped TREMENDOUSLY
4. DA/DI Scaling. Yes. I know Jakks is and has never been in scale. But the DA/DI figures are a stand alone. It isn't hard to put Mattel Elites with RA figures... and even some of the TNA and WCW Toybiz figures work with the RA scale. DA and DI figures do not work with any other recognizable wrestling figure set without looking EXTREMELY unrealistic. I am of the opinion that the fact that Jakks already had a built in RA-style fanbase who WANTED folks like Jarrett, Styles, Joe, TNA Angle, Daniels, MCMG, Raven, Gail, Angelina, Madison, etc.... and not giving that to them was a very stupid choice. That said, if Jakks was hardcore adamant against RA... they should have A) never asked us what style we wanted in that poll, and B) Scaled the DI articulated figures to fit perfectly with RAs. The Knockouts don't look out of place... and both Chris Sabin and Dr. Stevie will fit in an RA collection as well (balloon arms aside). They should have scaled everyone down to fit the already-made RA style. To be frank... they should have done that with DA 1, like they PROMISED THEY WERE GOING TO DO ANYWAY! Mattel kept Basics and Elites in scale with each other.. and it's done nothing but help sales.
Jakks made it's own bed by screwing the pooch on those four things... and it's a shame. Demand for CS figures was high... and the demand for TNA figures would have likely been a lot higher. Many people would have bought more figures of the same type.. very few people were going to start a new collection on an upstart company's out of scale figures.
It's pretty much the "WWE Invasion storyline botch" of wrestling figure history, IMHO...
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Post by LeighD on Aug 23, 2013 6:07:27 GMT -5
I'll add my two cents to the topic but keep in mind I only collect RA/RI-style CS & LOTR figures.
1) I think JAKKS should have offered an RI-style line to be on shelves next to the DI product simply as a means to help keep collectors but also try to convince retailers RI-style figures were still high in demand. Jeremy even stated RETAILERS wanted the DI-style as they felt more articulation was more marketable and desired. But let's say this just wasn't an option. Why not try 2- 3 sets of RI-style figures for both the current talent and LOTR sets as online exclusives to see how sales goes?
2) LOTR Packaging. I agree it should have been kept the same or as close as possible (none of us know what company owns what trademarks, likeness, etc). This I think would have pleased retailers because they would have seen it as the same line instead of a whole new packaging-style that would indicate "NEW" line of toys. I agree with Milincoln, the LOTR packaging looks like a step above dollar-store figures and 10 steps down from the CS packaging.
3) Timing. Looking back, JAKKS should have pooled their resources into CS 27 making it look like:
Classic Superstars 27
Paul Wight (Big Show) WWE Version (1)
Goldberg WWE Version (2)
Blackjack Mulligan (1)
Steve Blackman (1)
Barbarian (Singles Attire) (1)
Warlord (Singles Attire) (1)
Bam Bam Bigelow (1)
Kona Crush (1)
Evil Crush (1)
Arnold Skaaland (1 OF 2)
Outback Jack (1 OF 2)
BATISTA - LJN STYLE CHASER (1)
Cancel CS 28 and put what would have been the production time, materials, etc towards LOTR 1 that would have also included Scott Steiner. Have LOTR 1 available for shipping on 1/1/10. Or at the VERY VERY LEAST, have it go on pre-order with protos shown. It was a good 8-9 months from the last CS set to LOTR 1. That's a long time for a collector used to having a set released every 2 - 3 months.
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Post by brochester on Aug 27, 2013 10:37:53 GMT -5
I think it would have been better to stick to the RA style do to the fact that that's what their focus was with WWE. Diehard fans have shelves full of WWE/Classic RA style figures. We wanted to add to that with TNA Figures and we only got the one Legends series, the one RI series and Raven and Taylor that was added to DI series. I seriously would love to of gotten the TNA Roster in RA style. I haven't forced myself to buy many DI figures because I don't like them.
Jakks/TNA please do what the majority of the fans want (which shows by the lack of popularity of the DI figures compared to Jakks WWE RA figures). We want a RI of AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Jeff Jarrett, Austin Aries, Daniels, Kaz, Roode, Storm, and everyone else on the roster. Come on Jakks read the fan boards.
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Post by Blackbird 13 on Sept 3, 2013 7:29:26 GMT -5
I hate to admit this, brochester.. but I'm afraid that ship has sailed. I wish that it hadn't.. and that the opportunities were as vast as we all thought they were when Jakks acquired the TNA (and NWA, and NJPW) license. But it isn't. They dropped the ball.. the fanbase for RA figures is not what it once was, and that's all squarely on Jakks' shoulders.
Ugh....
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