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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on Aug 7, 2013 13:57:07 GMT -5
Unless RSC steps up & ask for it to be one of their exclusives I highly doubt we'll see it. Understandable the average figure collector has very little knowledge of Terry so he probably won't sell well at retail, but numbers might make sense as an exclusive. It would have been better than the Kane that they got for there exclusive. agreed but I think someone at RSC has a huge crush on Kane, he's gotten a lot of exclusives with Mattel & Jakks through them over the years.
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Post by The Madness on Aug 7, 2013 14:00:08 GMT -5
Unless RSC steps up & ask for it to be one of their exclusives I highly doubt we'll see it. Understandable the average figure collector has very little knowledge of Terry so he probably won't sell well at retail, but numbers might make sense as an exclusive. It would have been better than the Kane that they got for there exclusive. Oh man, THIS x 1,000,000.
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Post by JWLJN on Aug 7, 2013 14:02:48 GMT -5
I brought the topic up to Magnum this past weekend at Mid-Atlantic Fanfest. He'd really like to see it released and said that he was pretty hands on with the design team. His kids, ranging from five year old twins to late teens, were really looking forward to it. Ultimately though, like Jim Cornette with the Jakks Legends figure, he received the $5,000 for it and that's that.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 7, 2013 14:49:38 GMT -5
What I'd like to see happen....
Make Magnum TA a .5 per wave figure in an Elite set. And the other .5 would be Barry Windham. Both guys would be more less the same figure. Both would have the same mold with a slight variation of colors. Only significant difference is Barry wouldn't need chest hair and maybe a smaller arm mold.
Then in one fell swoop Mattel could make a ton of JCP/NWA fans happy.
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Post by brochester on Aug 7, 2013 14:50:07 GMT -5
I to was at Mid Atlantic Fanfest and that's one Item i prayed for for a year so I could take it and have him sign it. I really hope it comes out he's my most wanted and would love to have him displayed on my shelf.
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Post by brochester on Aug 7, 2013 14:50:20 GMT -5
I to was at Mid Atlantic Fanfest and that's one Item i prayed for for a year so I could take it and have him sign it. I really hope it comes out he's my most wanted and would love to have him displayed on my shelf.
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Post by Iron Bison on Aug 7, 2013 19:18:44 GMT -5
What I'd like to see happen.... Make Magnum TA a .5 per wave figure in an Elite set. And the other .5 would be Barry Windham. Both guys would be more less the same figure. Both would have the same mold with a slight variation of colors. Only significant difference is Barry wouldn't need chest hair and maybe a smaller arm mold. Then in one fell swoop Mattel could make a ton of JCP/NWA fans happy. This is the way to go. No offense to Diva collectors, but if ROSA can get released at .5 a case, I don't see why Magnum can't be either. Same goes for One Man Gang. Mattel has spent the tooling for them, just release and we will definitely support their release.
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 7, 2013 19:29:36 GMT -5
What I'd like to see happen.... Make Magnum TA a .5 per wave figure in an Elite set. And the other .5 would be Barry Windham. Both guys would be more less the same figure. Both would have the same mold with a slight variation of colors. Only significant difference is Barry wouldn't need chest hair and maybe a smaller arm mold. Then in one fell swoop Mattel could make a ton of JCP/NWA fans happy. Windham would need longer calves since he was slightly taller but you're correct. Its the same figure with the exception of head scan and color deco
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 8, 2013 7:30:25 GMT -5
Ultimately though, like Jim Cornette with the Jakks Legends figure, he received the $5,000 for it and that's that. See, that's insane. $5000 just for Magnum's rights. They'd never even make that amount back on a figure of him, let alone the much greater design and tooling costs of the figure itself plus packaging and distribution. It's no wonder they had to kill the Legends line if those were the deals they were throwing out to now-obscure talent.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 8, 2013 8:06:29 GMT -5
What I'd like to see happen.... Make Magnum TA a .5 per wave figure in an Elite set. And the other .5 would be Barry Windham. Both guys would be more less the same figure. Both would have the same mold with a slight variation of colors. Only significant difference is Barry wouldn't need chest hair and maybe a smaller arm mold. Then in one fell swoop Mattel could make a ton of JCP/NWA fans happy. Windham would need longer calves since he was slightly taller but you're correct. Its the same figure with the exception of head scan and color deco Yeah I meant to mention the calves. Cause Magnum was only 6'2 while Barry was 6'6.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 8, 2013 8:10:33 GMT -5
What I'd like to see happen.... Make Magnum TA a .5 per wave figure in an Elite set. And the other .5 would be Barry Windham. Both guys would be more less the same figure. Both would have the same mold with a slight variation of colors. Only significant difference is Barry wouldn't need chest hair and maybe a smaller arm mold. Then in one fell swoop Mattel could make a ton of JCP/NWA fans happy. This is the way to go. No offense to Diva collectors, but if ROSA can get released at .5 a case, I don't see why Magnum can't be either. Same goes for One Man Gang. Mattel has spent the tooling for them, just release and we will definitely support their release. Plus I believe Diesel/Nash was .5 a case.
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Post by Bandalero on Aug 8, 2013 8:21:31 GMT -5
Ultimately though, like Jim Cornette with the Jakks Legends figure, he received the $5,000 for it and that's that. See, that's insane. $5000 just for Magnum's rights. They'd never even make that amount back on a figure of him, let alone the much greater design and tooling costs of the figure itself plus packaging and distribution. It's no wonder they had to kill the Legends line if those were the deals they were throwing out to now-obscure talent. Wow how many cards are short in your deck? The only new mold necessary for the Magnum figure was the face sculpt/scan and they already did it because the figure made it to proto-photo production stage - the rest of the figure is made up of already existing parts!!! About the only difficult deco is on the cowboy boots. But good news for MDT is that Magnum either wore black or red so they don't have to go way out of their budget to get those colours. And just like Terry Funk's figure, I know I'm good for at least 10 Magnums over time for customizing parts.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 8, 2013 9:16:43 GMT -5
The only new mold necessary for the Magnum figure was the face sculpt/scan and they already did it because the figure made it to proto-photo production stage - the rest of the figure is made up of already existing parts!!! About the only difficult deco is on the cowboy boots. But good news for MDT is that Magnum either wore black or red so they don't have to go way out of their budget to get those colours. You realise that making a prototype figure isn't the end of the cost, right? Producing many thousand units of the product is incredibly expensive. Yes, they already designed the figure, and they already paid him $5000 -- there was no way that was ever going to turn a profit, even if (by some kind of magic) the actual mass production of the figure was free. Like I said, when they were cutting deals like that with guys like Magnum TA, it's no wonder the plug had to be pulled. They made the mistake that a hundred people on Wfigs = the average consumer. A couple of hundred customisers and Crockett fans who still buy figures are not going to make it profitable. Magnum TA means nothing to anyone under the age of about forty, and (though there are some) there aren't many 40+ year olds buying wrestling dolls. Throw in maybe a few dozen younger fans who like to collect older stuff, and you still don't have a market anywhere near mass retail for Magnum TA at those prices. The best way to do it would be a super-super-exclusive low amount. 1 of 100 or 1 of 1000 at a push, and charge the prices that go along with such a limited run. That way the people who really want a Magnum TA could get one, and the rest of us wouldn't have the Flashbacks line put in jeopardy by a huge non-seller.
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Post by blu3blazer on Aug 8, 2013 9:20:35 GMT -5
As much as I'd love a Magnum TA figure since he was one of my favorites when I was a kid, he's not going to sell at retail. If Legends Series 7 came out as planned, I guarantee there would still be stores with him on the shelves right now. If they make him a Flashback, they'd have to make him 1 in every 4 cases for him to even sell.
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Post by IwasULTIMATE!!!! on Aug 8, 2013 9:39:32 GMT -5
This is the way to go. No offense to Diva collectors, but if ROSA can get released at .5 a case, I don't see why Magnum can't be either. Same goes for One Man Gang. Mattel has spent the tooling for them, just release and we will definitely support their release. Plus I believe Diesel/Nash was .5 a case. Both were a nightmare to find, though. I think Iron Bison meant in terms of relevance.
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Post by IwasULTIMATE!!!! on Aug 8, 2013 9:45:19 GMT -5
As much as I'd love a Magnum TA figure since he was one of my favorites when I was a kid, he's not going to sell at retail. If Legends Series 7 came out as planned, I guarantee there would still be stores with him on the shelves right now. If they make him a Flashback, they'd have to make him 1 in every 4 cases for him to even sell. MAYBE They can make Magnum a .25 per case but less than that would be ridiculous. even pegwarmers like Papa Shango and FB Edge eventually sold and now they are sought after now.
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Post by PJ on Aug 8, 2013 10:19:44 GMT -5
The figure would sell at .5 or even 1 per case. As for profits yes they'd get their money back in the long run especially now as a FB. They aren't selling retailers cases of Magnum figures...he'd be one of 6 wrestlers in a series. So the profit would be there when retailers ordered the series.
And it's a shame as personally I would take a Magnum TA figure over 95% of the WWE roster today. Hell, I'd even take a Magnum figure over repaints of the 5% of the roster I do find entertaining.
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Post by JKLMD2002 on Aug 8, 2013 12:03:44 GMT -5
With Tully and Arn, Road Warriors and an easy to customize Dusty, it really is a shame we haven't been able to get him in some way. Like Bandy, I'd happily buy multiples for customs.
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Post by Justin on Aug 8, 2013 12:17:21 GMT -5
I hope so, cause my Tully has been walking around like he owns the place lately. Lol. I just imagine a stop motion video of Tully walking all cocky
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Post by Bandalero on Aug 8, 2013 12:17:58 GMT -5
The only new mold necessary for the Magnum figure was the face sculpt/scan and they already did it because the figure made it to proto-photo production stage - the rest of the figure is made up of already existing parts!!! About the only difficult deco is on the cowboy boots. But good news for MDT is that Magnum either wore black or red so they don't have to go way out of their budget to get those colours. You realise that making a prototype figure isn't the end of the cost, right? Producing many thousand units of the product is incredibly expensive. Yes, they already designed the figure, and they already paid him $5000 -- there was no way that was ever going to turn a profit, even if (by some kind of magic) the actual mass production of the figure was free. Like I said, when they were cutting deals like that with guys like Magnum TA, it's no wonder the plug had to be pulled. They made the mistake that a hundred people on Wfigs = the average consumer. A couple of hundred customisers and Crockett fans who still buy figures are not going to make it profitable. Magnum TA means nothing to anyone under the age of about forty, and (though there are some) there aren't many 40+ year olds buying wrestling dolls. Throw in maybe a few dozen younger fans who like to collect older stuff, and you still don't have a market anywhere near mass retail for Magnum TA at those prices. The best way to do it would be a super-super-exclusive low amount. 1 of 100 or 1 of 1000 at a push, and charge the prices that go along with such a limited run. That way the people who really want a Magnum TA could get one, and the rest of us wouldn't have the Flashbacks line put in jeopardy by a huge non-seller. Simmer down son, nobody is here promoting the idea of selling him to mass retail - that's just stupid. In fact what I'm seeing is suggestions to sell him .5 to a case or as an RSC exclusive. If you've already invested $5K why not try to break even at least? I'm 35, under your 40 year-mark and Magnum T.A. means something to me but you're just making glorified generalizations at this point. You really think he'll be a non-seller? Do you honestly feel that at .5 per case he wouldn't cost around the ballpark of what a Honky Tonk Man or a Papa Shango is currently going for? Wow, that's pretty close-minded of you, Economics 101 Chapter 1 Supply & Demand. Look at the DDP thread, not many people were fans of that guy either and his figure is still going for $20+ on the secondary market, go figure. BTW a hundred people on WFigs have been drilling it into MDT's heads that we want a camo Sarge, bare foot Snuka, and red LOD for YEARS and they've either ignored or turned the idea down completely. So no, I don't think MDT runs by what a few hundred WFigs fans say.
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