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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 12:22:53 GMT -5
What I'd like to see happen.... Make Magnum TA a .5 per wave figure in an Elite set. And the other .5 would be Barry Windham. Both guys would be more less the same figure. Both would have the same mold with a slight variation of colors. Only significant difference is Barry wouldn't need chest hair and maybe a smaller arm mold. Then in one fell swoop Mattel could make a ton of JCP/NWA fans happy. well done buddy. I would LOVE to see the above happen.
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Post by Rob7274 on Aug 8, 2013 12:33:22 GMT -5
What I'd like to see happen.... Make Magnum TA a .5 per wave figure in an Elite set. And the other .5 would be Barry Windham. Both guys would be more less the same figure. Both would have the same mold with a slight variation of colors. Only significant difference is Barry wouldn't need chest hair and maybe a smaller arm mold. Then in one fell swoop Mattel could make a ton of JCP/NWA fans happy. well done buddy. I would LOVE to see the above happen. Barry would need to be taller.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 12:44:15 GMT -5
honestly as long as he was taller than Flair,AA and Tully I wouldnt mind too much man....Im sure he TA figure would be.
my Flair is a custom.Jakks 80s head on Mattel Terry Funk so Im sure it would be.
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Post by *LS_58* on Aug 8, 2013 12:52:43 GMT -5
I doubt it I hope so but I still doubt it.
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Post by WCWA Online on Aug 8, 2013 13:05:19 GMT -5
Probably not. Mattel seems more determined to make more schmucks like Dick Togo then a former United States Champion. Magnum TA is a legend.. and don't take this as discrediting him.. But I'd DEFINITELY buy a Dick Togo figure over Magnum TA. Togo's farewell tour in Japan gave two matches that were my favorite matches that year, and my 2011 Match of the Year in his farewell match from Japan. If you only know Togo from his WWF run then you should really expand your bubble. He's been having fantastic matches since before then and after. Consistently one of my favorite guys in DDT and DDT is one of my favorite promotions to watch
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 8, 2013 13:41:34 GMT -5
Simmer down son, nobody is here promoting the idea of selling him to mass retail - that's just stupid. In fact what I'm seeing is suggestions to sell him .5 to a case or as an RSC exclusive. If you've already invested $5K why not try to break even at least? 0.5 per case is mass retail. And Magnum TA is a very tough sell to put in 50% of Elite cases they ship out for a series. Producing many thousands of Magnum TA dolls is more likely to result in a bigger loss than it is to break even... Otherwise, we'd see it slotted in by now. Even as a Ringside Exclusive, it appeals to a tiny fraction of the market they'd need for an exclusive to be profitable. The figure was planned in the days when Mattel were trying to pander to us too much. They're smarter now. False. Papa Shango was one of the weakest Flashback selections, but even he was a part of the WWF post-global expansion. Honky Tonk Man is a WWE Legend, a huge character, and has made many appearances for them over the last fifteen years or so. And when it comes to DDP, sorry but again, you're confusing yourself into thinking that Wfigs members alone = profit. The statement "some members of Wfigs don't like DDP" is true, but the statement "not many people were fans of that guy" is clearly not. DDP was a big deal in WCW when they were the number one promotion in the US in the biggest wrestling boom period. A lot of people were fans of that guy. Exactly. They stopped doing that... That's why Magnum TA's figure hasn't been released.
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Post by Bandalero on Aug 8, 2013 14:45:52 GMT -5
...but the statement "not many people were fans of that guy" is clearly not. DDP was a big deal in WCW when they were the number one promotion in the US in the biggest wrestling boom period. A lot of people were fans of that guy. If you're going to quote me then don't misquote me please. I said take a look at the DDP thread, not many people were fans of that guy - which people am I referring to? The entire wrestling fanbase or people in that DDP thread? Think about it. What ticks me off is collectors like you who have no appreciation for what guys like Magnum T.A. did in the past and think because he looks boring that he wont sell so you advocate to the high hills for us few fellow collectors NOT to get a figure we want. And why this one especially burns is because Mattel clearly already invested (heavily) into getting this license and took the time to make the sculpt/scan and take merchandise pictures, with 90% re-use of parts, they are not exactly starting from scratch. DDP was mega popular at wrestling's biggest boom period for sure, but during '85-'87 Magnum T.A. was also a very popular wrestler. Most of us are going to buy Bruno for it being Bruno, but you better believe young fans/customers aren't buying Bruno because he held the WWWF belt for 8 years, they are going to buy it for the cool podium and cardboard plaque - and that's fine. I'm not going to sit here and tell you they shouldn't make a Bruno figure because he's only wearing blue underwear and boots! I could give a flying you-know-what about Doink, Crush, and any other stupid clown gimmick WWE/F had, but I'd support my fellow collectors who want a Doink figure because we all want these figures to be made.
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Post by East Coast on Aug 8, 2013 16:30:53 GMT -5
i want a doink figure
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Post by PJ on Aug 8, 2013 17:10:54 GMT -5
i want a doink figure I don't, but I do hope he gets made for those who do.
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Aug 8, 2013 17:15:03 GMT -5
Now in a situation like this, how many figures of jeans shorts Austin and Magnum were made? If any? And are they just sitting around at Mattel? Or were those just protos?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 8, 2013 17:38:21 GMT -5
What ticks me off is collectors like you who have no appreciation for what guys like Magnum T.A. did in the past and think because he looks boring that he wont sell so you advocate to the high hills for us few fellow collectors NOT to get a figure we want. My initial post was just alarm at how Mattel was at one point throwing that kind of money around pursuing people for Legends figures that obviously weren't going to make that kind of money back. In a secondary, barely-national promotion at the time, that never really took off until nearly ten years later. I wouldn't fancy the chances of a Nick Bockwinkel figure either. I can separate my own wants from good business, that's all. That's why I don't post about how Mattel should make a Flashback Crash Holly with Hardcore title, scales, a cap, a t-shirt, luggage and a ballpit slide. As much as I'd love that, I know it wouldn't be a profitable venture for them. And I wouldn't try to start a campaign for them to make it, because if a figure bombs, it increases the risk of the Flashback segment shutting down completely... And then there goes my chance of getting D-Lo Brown, Repo Man, Doink, Elite-style DiBiase etc one day. I'm not sure what the scenario is for RSC Exclusives in terms of a figure just dying sales-wise, but if the demand on here was strong enough, they'd probably ask Mattel for Magnum, the way they did with that cancelled SES CM Punk. So good luck, anything is possible with enough support.
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Post by skribbel24 on Aug 8, 2013 17:56:59 GMT -5
I highly doubt it, which is unfortunate.
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Post by Chewdeezy on Aug 8, 2013 21:01:26 GMT -5
Probably in Mattel's 15th year of producing figures when they run out of options.
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Post by Jeremiah on Aug 8, 2013 22:16:54 GMT -5
Mattel design team please end the madness i know you guys pull the strings i wont get mad by your decision just help us close this argument after 2 almost 3 years now
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Aug 8, 2013 23:26:24 GMT -5
Simmer down son, nobody is here promoting the idea of selling him to mass retail - that's just stupid. In fact what I'm seeing is suggestions to sell him .5 to a case or as an RSC exclusive. If you've already invested $5K why not try to break even at least? 0.5 per case is mass retail. And Magnum TA is a very tough sell to put in 50% of Elite cases they ship out for a series. Producing many thousands of Magnum TA dolls is more likely to result in a bigger loss than it is to break even... Otherwise, we'd see it slotted in by now.You do realize that once the cases have been sold to retailers and sites like RSC that Mattel has made their money right? It doesn't matter if that Magnum figure collects dust on shelves for the next five years, Mattel isn't losing any money on it. PJ mentioned this on the last page as well.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 9, 2013 5:53:56 GMT -5
You do realize that once the cases have been sold to retailers and sites like RSC that Mattel has made their money right? It doesn't matter if that Magnum figure collects dust on shelves for the next five years, Mattel isn't losing any money on it. PJ mentioned this on the last page as well. Stop and think about what you're saying for a second. You do realise that if retailers don't sell the figures, they stop ordering more and if retailers stop ordering, Mattel stop making their money right? This is why Defining Moments, Legends, Elite Scale Rings, Entrance Greats, Flexforce etc are no longer in production.
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Post by Iron Bison on Aug 9, 2013 5:58:09 GMT -5
You do realize that once the cases have been sold to retailers and sites like RSC that Mattel has made their money right? It doesn't matter if that Magnum figure collects dust on shelves for the next five years, Mattel isn't losing any money on it. PJ mentioned this on the last page as well. Stop and think about what you're saying for a second. You do realise that if retailers don't sell the figures, they stop ordering more and if retailers stop ordering, Mattel stop making their money right? This is why Defining Moments, Legends, Elite Scale Rings, Entrance Greats, Flexforce etc are no longer in production. You've got to be kidding me if you think releasing Magnum is going to get the whole elite line cancelled.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 9, 2013 6:07:42 GMT -5
You've got to be kidding me if you think releasing Magnum is going to get the whole elite line cancelled. No one figure will get the elite line cancelled. But choosing obscure Flashbacks that don't sell ultimately pushes the dial towards getting the Flashback element reduced/cancelled. If sales didn't matter, Bill could just flood the line with his personal favourites and not have to care about them making money. And really, if your argument is that sales figures and profit don't matter, it only vindicates what I'm saying.
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Post by PJ on Aug 9, 2013 6:58:30 GMT -5
I am sure at .5 or even 1 per case Magnum would sell just as well as Edge, Christian, Shango & Liz did. Sure they warmed for a bit, but in the end they moved. Magnum would do the same. They have paid so much for it already they might as well release in instead of spending more money on new wresters contracts and or sculpts. At this stage I think it's a better business move to release him then it is to sit on it and start fresh with other wrestlers.
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