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Post by fattic on Aug 12, 2013 19:04:57 GMT -5
Oh boy. I get people saying that parents should clean up after their kids, but I also get people saying if you are in the food industry, cleaning up after people is expected.
I work at a movie theatre. I clean up messes daily. You would not believe the mess grown adults will make in a theatre during a show; it is disgusting, and I often wonder where these people came from/who raised them. It's gross and I don't love doing it, but I shut my mouth and clean whatever mess is left. My managers help me clean, as well, and they don't go out of their way to track down who left the mess and call them out on it. This is our job, and while it's not glamorous, we suck it up and do it. That's all there really is to it.
At the same time, I would like to make it a point to say these parents should have had their kids eating at the table, where the crumbs would fall instead of the floor. One of my best friends has a baby girl who is a few years old, and she has raised her to sit and eat over the table like any person in a restaurant would normally do. She would never let her child make a mess like that on the floor, because she respects the establishment she is at, and watches her child as a mother should. That's just the type of person she is, though.
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 13, 2013 12:22:32 GMT -5
Oh boy. I get people saying that parents should clean up after their kids, but I also get people saying if you are in the food industry, cleaning up after people is expected. I work at a movie theatre. I clean up messes daily. You would not believe the mess grown adults will make in a theatre during a show; it is disgusting, and I often wonder where these people came from/who raised them. It's gross and I don't love doing it, but I shut my mouth and clean whatever mess is left. My managers help me clean, as well, and they don't go out of their way to track down who left the mess and call them out on it. This is our job, and while it's not glamorous, we suck it up and do it. That's all there really is to it. At the same time, I would like to make it a point to say these parents should have had their kids eating at the table, where the crumbs would fall instead of the floor. One of my best friends has a baby girl who is a few years old, and she has raised her to sit and eat over the table like any person in a restaurant would normally do. She would never let her child make a mess like that on the floor, because she respects the establishment she is at, and watches her child as a mother should. That's just the type of person she is, though. THIS. It's part of your job so you do it. If you dont want to then don't but then also don't expect a paycheck. And people at theaters have it worst of all because how many people make a mess? And of those messes how many are made by items not even sold in the theater? I've been to the theater and seen beer bottles, sun flower seeds, bubble gum, fast food trash, and so on. None of that is sold in theaters, yet people go and make a mess anyway. I would be more sypmathetic towards a theater employee posting a pic nagging about a mess before I would towards the woman coffee shop owner.
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 13, 2013 12:31:27 GMT -5
If you don't want to pick up crumbs from kids eating scones, don't serve scones. Better yet, don't own a restaurant. She's not mean, she's an idiot.
For the record, I have two young kids, consciously try to go to places that seem kid-friendly, and always clean up pretty thoroughly after we're all done eating. But I don't judge other parents who don't do the same.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Aug 13, 2013 14:41:38 GMT -5
I work in retail, thus have a hatred for the general public. I sympathise with the shop owner. Customers can be annoying, the business has a right to mention anything they want on their own facebook. Personally I kinda agree that when you're taking kids into somewhere, you should control them and make sure they don't cause a mess or neisance.
I hate the term "The customer is always right" because while it is true that you're providing a service, there are times that customers take advantage or act disrespectfully. I think these things have to have an unspoken level of mutual respect. You provide a service, and in return should expect the public to be greatful and treat the owners property with respect.
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Post by Revvie® on Aug 13, 2013 23:31:22 GMT -5
I love how people seem to think that it is logical to try to cram an adult demeanor into a child. I am not saying a kid should run around causing mayhem, but certain things are what they are, kids making a mess with food is one of them. "you should control your 1 year old because they are acting like a baby does, or you should control your toddler because they are being a little loud. Yea, just saying, errands have to get run, stuff has to get done, and acting like a kid is some detriment on your existence because they act like a kid seems a little foolish. And unless you are raising the perfect saintly child of ultimate emotional and mental control...
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Aug 15, 2013 6:21:57 GMT -5
I work in the restaurant industry. It never ceases to amaze me when an employee is upset about cleaning up someone else's mess - this is the "service" industry - if there were no messes to be cleaned up, we would not have employment. Restaurants that are clean - are not clean because they have neat & clean customers. They are clean because they have a hard-working staff who care about their building and strive to keep it that way all the time. Anyone in food service who has a problem with cleaning up after other people - is in the wrong line of business. It is a hot, messy, dirty industry... and it's not for everyone. I wonder what part of the Restaurant industry you work in? Because to me, it sounds like you're not part of the ones cleaning sed messes. Otherwise you'd at the very least sympathize with the people on the other side of the fence. ------ I work in a restaurant, I clean those messes. The one pictured isn't horrible, but its an annoying mess nonetheless. Nothing a vacuum wont take care of though. I get a little upset with messes, but im mostly upset with the lack of control parents have over their kids. Kids who pull table clothes, knock over drinks, eat messy, cant sit still, all those things fall on the parents upbringing of them, and they should be embarrassed to display that in public. I understand, as someone said, children of age one wont have adult etiquette. But they also have no business being obnoxiously fed in establishments the way they do (especially when the establishment itself is of slightly formal nature... we're not talking Fast Food tables). My niece is 1. And she isn't given a bowl a cheerios to annihilate, its called feeding them. Give them a couple at a time, keep the possible mess minimal. And it continues on.. 3 & 4 year olds whose parents order them plates of spaghetti and because they weren't taught manners earlier, a quarter of it goes on the floor. Crumbs happen, messes happen. Its inevitable and apart of the job. But again my problem just lies in the parents carelessness. While I don't expect parents to clean our floor, I would hope they would have the common courtesy to grab a napkin and pick up the larger pieces. I just cant picture myself walking out of a restaurant leaving my children's meals on the floor basically. Now when I work banquets on the other hand.. lord help. Now you have an entire room where kids sometimes run around as they see fit. Thats truly the showcase of inept parenting. We serve trays of food and were left to dance around kids who cant behave and parents who do nothing. The messes that those kids leave with their newfound freedom is unparallelled. The worst was when a child knocked over a cake.
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Post by Flair Forever on Aug 15, 2013 19:19:24 GMT -5
I work in the restaurant industry. It never ceases to amaze me when an employee is upset about cleaning up someone else's mess - this is the "service" industry - if there were no messes to be cleaned up, we would not have employment. Restaurants that are clean - are not clean because they have neat & clean customers. They are clean because they have a hard-working staff who care about their building and strive to keep it that way all the time. Anyone in food service who has a problem with cleaning up after other people - is in the wrong line of business. It is a hot, messy, dirty industry... and it's not for everyone. I wonder what part of the Restaurant industry you work in? Because to me, it sounds like you're not part of the ones cleaning sed messes. Otherwise you'd at the very least sympathize with the people on the other side of the fence. Well, I've personally cleaned up a puddle of urine in the middle of our serving area. I also once cleaned up a counter full of vomit (because no one else in the restaurant had the stomach to do it). I did once draw the line when a customer smeared feces all over the bathroom walls - I couldn't clean that up and I coerced a different employee to do that. It was just toooo disgusting. And it is frustrating to be responsible for keeping a place clean when everyone that walks in the door seems intent on making a disgusting mess. However - out of the three messes I listed - only one of them was created by a child... adults (or, young adults) are disgusting too. I also have a 4 year old.... we teach him to be well-behaved in a restaurant - and if he's not, one of us takes him outside. If the behavior doesn't improve - we leave. While I realize not all families follow these kinds of guidelines - I really hate to think that our family would be barred from restaurants because of the behavior (or lack thereof) of other people. On the same token - I really don't want to take my business anywhere that doesn't want it. So any restaurant stupid enough to turn away my money won't hear any complaints from me.... it's their loss.
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