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Post by slappy on Sept 22, 2013 21:24:09 GMT -5
How can anyone not be pulling for Walt. Since episode one he has been shat on and shat on in every way imaginable. He now has nothing left. His family's gone, he is dying any day now, the entire world thinks he is the spawn of satan. Why not go out in a blaze of glory. That last scene with Gretchen and Eliot was intense as it gets. Walter whites dead. But Heisenburg has some unfinished business . Next week is gonna be epic Um, what he got his wife into. All the people he has killed. He got his brother in law killed. He poisoned a child. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:25:53 GMT -5
How can anyone not be pulling for Walt. Since episode one he has been shat on and shat on in every way imaginable. He now has nothing left. His family's gone, he is dying any day now, the entire world thinks he is the spawn of satan. Why not go out in a blaze of glory. That last scene with Gretchen and Eliot was intense as it gets. Walter whites dead. But Heisenburg has some unfinished business . Next week is gonna be epic Um, what he got his wife into. All the people he has killed. He got his brother in law killed. He poisoned a child. Exactly |
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 22, 2013 21:30:21 GMT -5
How can anyone not be pulling for Walt. Since episode one he has been shat on and shat on in every way imaginable. He now has nothing left. His family's gone, he is dying any day now, the entire world thinks he is the spawn of satan. Why not go out in a blaze of glory. That last scene with Gretchen and Eliot was intense as it gets. Walter whites dead. But Heisenburg has some unfinished business . Next week is gonna be epic Um, what he got his wife into. All the people he has killed. He got his brother in law killed. He poisoned a child. Man I would've done every thing he did without thinking twice. He didn't purposely do any of that but circumstances lead to those events. None of it was out of cold blood none of it was to make himself some wanted criminal. From the lung cancer all the way to hanks death he wanted none of it to happen. He got dealt a crap hand and tried to make the most out of it, little did he know it would get worse and worse. I tear up at the words Series Finale this is the best tv show ive ever had the pleasure of watching. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:31:07 GMT -5
Walts reasoning is pure but greed and power went to his head. Yes there is still a small part of him still there, the part that cares for his family, but Walter White is so far gone that he can't be redeemed. His actions and his transformation have killed the good in him. You can't pull for someone no longer there. He is already dead. Jesse is the good guy in the story. Yes he ratted Walt out, but he had no where else to turn. Walt killed Mike, and poisoned Brock. Jesse honestly believed that he'd kill him too if he didn't take him out first. I'm pulling for Jesse because through it all he has be the one with a conscious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:32:37 GMT -5
Walts reasoning is pure but greed and power went to his head. Yes there is still a small part of him still there, the part that cares for his family, but Walter White is so far gone that he can't be redeemed. His actions and his transformation have killed the good in him. You can't pull for someone no longer there. He is already dead. Jesse is the good guy in the story. Yes he ratted Walt out, but he had no where else to turn. Walt killed Mike, and poisoned Brock. Jesse honestly believed that he'd kill him too if he didn't take him out first. I'm pulling for Jesse because through it all he has be the one with a conscious. Same here. Jesse has always been my favorite character. |
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 22, 2013 21:35:21 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that walts actions pale in comparison to that of Jack, Todd, and their crew.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:36:28 GMT -5
Walts reasoning is pure but greed and power went to his head. Yes there is still a small part of him still there, the part that cares for his family, but Walter White is so far gone that he can't be redeemed. His actions and his transformation have killed the good in him. You can't pull for someone no longer there. He is already dead. Jesse is the good guy in the story. Yes he ratted Walt out, but he had no where else to turn. Walt killed Mike, and poisoned Brock. Jesse honestly believed that he'd kill him too if he didn't take him out first. I'm pulling for Jesse because through it all he has be the one with a conscious. I loved the line when Walt was on the phone with Flynn and Flynn was turning down the money and Walt says something along the lines of his whole life's work going to nothing. It shows that while his intentions are good, it's still all about him. Even though he's trying to give his family money, he's giving it to them for his benefit not theirs. Also, maybe some of you guys can enlighten me on the Elliot and Gretchen scene, not sure what I was supposed to take away from that. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Sept 22, 2013 21:39:43 GMT -5
Sorry but I'm gunning for Walt. I hope he goes out like a complete badass taking out the greater evils around him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:41:06 GMT -5
Walts reasoning is pure but greed and power went to his head. Yes there is still a small part of him still there, the part that cares for his family, but Walter White is so far gone that he can't be redeemed. His actions and his transformation have killed the good in him. You can't pull for someone no longer there. He is already dead. Jesse is the good guy in the story. Yes he ratted Walt out, but he had no where else to turn. Walt killed Mike, and poisoned Brock. Jesse honestly believed that he'd kill him too if he didn't take him out first. I'm pulling for Jesse because through it all he has be the one with a conscious. I loved the line when Walt was on the phone with Flynn and Flynn was turning down the money and Walt says something along the lines of his whole life's work going to nothing. It shows that while his intentions are good, it's still all about him. Even though he's trying to give his family money, he's giving it to them for his benefit not theirs. Also, maybe some of you guys can enlighten me on the Elliot and Gretchen scene, not sure what I was supposed to take away from that. Elliot and Gretchen totally discredited him in their companies foundation, which he was a main element. Then they went on to claim Walter White died a long time ago. He realizes that they are right. He is Heisenberg now. And it's time that he takes what's his. At least how I saw it. And RybackV1, yes he is better than them and I hope he takes them all out. But at the end, Walter won't and can't stand tall. Pulling for Jesse to though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:41:33 GMT -5
Sorry but I'm gunning for Walt. I hope he goes out like a complete badass taking out the greater evils around him. I still think he will take everyone out, save Jesse, and then use the ricin on himself. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Sept 22, 2013 21:44:23 GMT -5
Sorry but I'm gunning for Walt. I hope he goes out like a complete badass taking out the greater evils around him. I still think he will take everyone out, save Jesse, and then use the ricin on himself. He couldnt even stab himself with a needle, killing himself? When he is already dying of cancer? I dont see it. I can see it being used on Elliot and Gretchen if anyone. |
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Post by slappy on Sept 22, 2013 21:48:18 GMT -5
Um, what he got his wife into. All the people he has killed. He got his brother in law killed. He poisoned a child. Man I would've done every thing he did without thinking twice. He didn't purposely do any of that but circumstances lead to those events. None of it was out of cold blood none of it was to make himself some wanted criminal. From the lung cancer all the way to hanks death he wanted none of it to happen. He got dealt a crap hand and tried to make the most out of it, little did he know it would get worse and worse. I tear up at the words Series Finale this is the best tv show ive ever had the pleasure of watching. So he was forced to poison a child? Really? If he didn't want any of it to happen then he shouldn't have done it. He caused Hank's death. From associating with Nazis to telling them where he was. Yeah, he said stop but if he didn't call them in the first place they wouldn't have known where to go and end up killing Hank. |
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Post by slappy on Sept 22, 2013 21:49:48 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that walts actions pale in comparison to that of Jack, Todd, and their crew. And who got them involved with all that? |
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 22, 2013 21:50:28 GMT -5
Walt has no more sanity or morals. As they said Walt is dead. All that's left is heisenburgs final days. So don't expect him to spare anybody. Including Gretchen and Eliot Jesse and god forbid his own family. He realizes he's done and figures why not avenge all the complete bullcrap he's been through before he finally succumbs to the cancer. Jesse better be the one who blows Todd's head off. That was so  ed it's not even funny. I'm so glad they didn't show Brock finding her like that . |
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Post by slappy on Sept 22, 2013 21:52:03 GMT -5
Walt has no more sanity or morals. As they said Walt is dead. All that's left is heisenburgs final days. So don't expect him to spare anybody. Including Gretchen and Eliot Jesse and god forbid his own family. He realizes he's done and figures why not avenge all the complete bullcrap he's been through before he finally succumbs to the cancer. Jesse better be the one who blows Todd's head off. That was so ed it's not even funny. I'm so glad they didn't show Brock finding her like that . Will you defend Walt killing Skyler and Flynn? |
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 22, 2013 21:54:37 GMT -5
Man I would've done every thing he did without thinking twice. He didn't purposely do any of that but circumstances lead to those events. None of it was out of cold blood none of it was to make himself some wanted criminal. From the lung cancer all the way to hanks death he wanted none of it to happen. He got dealt a crap hand and tried to make the most out of it, little did he know it would get worse and worse. I tear up at the words Series Finale this is the best tv show ive ever had the pleasure of watching. So he was forced to poison a child? Really? If he didn't want any of it to happen then he shouldn't have done it. He caused Hank's death. From associating with Nazis to telling them where he was. Yeah, he said stop but if he didn't call them in the first place they wouldn't have known where to go and end up killing Hank. Do you not remember why he poisoned Brock ?? Jesse and Gus both were to kill Walt and his family at any given moment . The only and I mean ONLY way Walt could've got Jesse on his side and get rid of Gus was to do what he did. His intent was never to kill the kid. He knew how much to give him to keep him Alive. He told the nazis to come BEFORE knowing hank was there. The moment he saw hank show up he called it off. He never intended to hurt ANYONE |
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 22, 2013 21:56:06 GMT -5
Walt has no more sanity or morals. As they said Walt is dead. All that's left is heisenburgs final days. So don't expect him to spare anybody. Including Gretchen and Eliot Jesse and god forbid his own family. He realizes he's done and figures why not avenge all the complete bullcrap he's been through before he finally succumbs to the cancer. Jesse better be the one who blows Todd's head off. That was so ed it's not even funny. I'm so glad they didn't show Brock finding her like that . Will you defend Walt killing Skyler and Flynn? You're acting like Walt went around randomly killing people out of cold blood this entire series |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Sept 22, 2013 21:56:19 GMT -5
I dont think Walt is a horrible person. I just think he got in well over his head. He shows remorse and regret anytime he does something qustionable. That is the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:58:27 GMT -5
I love this. I hope they do an entire history video that leads up to the finale. Kinda like how Supernatural recaps their entire last season before starting a new season.
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Post by slappy on Sept 22, 2013 21:59:04 GMT -5
So he was forced to poison a child? Really? If he didn't want any of it to happen then he shouldn't have done it. He caused Hank's death. From associating with Nazis to telling them where he was. Yeah, he said stop but if he didn't call them in the first place they wouldn't have known where to go and end up killing Hank. Do you not remember why he poisoned Brock ?? Jesse and Gus both were to kill Walt and his family at any given moment . The only and I mean ONLY way Walt could've got Jesse on his side and get rid of Gus was to do what he did. His intent was never to kill the kid. He knew how much to give him to keep him Alive. He told the nazis to come BEFORE knowing hank was there. The moment he saw hank show up he called it off. He never intended to hurt ANYONE Walt also let Jane die. I can't believe you are defending his nearly killing a child. He never intended to hurt anyone besides all the people he killed or had killed. I guess it's ok that he killed some of them because they would have ratted on him. |
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