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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 23:10:48 GMT -5
I think Jesse will be the one that kills Todd
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Post by King Silva on Sept 23, 2013 0:15:11 GMT -5
I think Jesse will be the one that kills Todd Hopefully. Walt needs to kill those Nazis though.. |
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Post by Fleet Foxes on Sept 23, 2013 0:31:26 GMT -5
spoiler from the finale. v v v v  LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 3:50:53 GMT -5
Could everyone stop arguing? We don't want to get this thread locked a week away from the finale.
Everyone has their own opinion, leave it be.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Sept 23, 2013 3:58:54 GMT -5
Dude.
When the theme song hit.
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Post by J12 on Sept 23, 2013 12:01:28 GMT -5
I think who one roots for is entirely his/her prerogative with this show. To me, there are no "good guys." There is no innocent hero seeking justice. Every character is deeply flawed with varying acts of immorality under their respective belts at one point or another during the series. Who the viewer choose to identify with is ultimately who becomes the show's protagonist. I've felt that way for a long time, and to me, it's even clearer now. Just another reason why I believe it is, unquestionably, among the greatest shows of all time. The prospective can vary greatly from person to person.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 23, 2013 13:46:12 GMT -5
my god every time I see the series finale commerical I get chills.I didnt think it was possible to feel this kind of emotion from a television show.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 23, 2013 15:34:05 GMT -5
I think who one roots for is entirely his/her prerogative with this show. To me, there are no "good guys." There is no innocent hero seeking justice. Every character is deeply flawed with varying acts of immorality under their respective belts at one point or another during the series. Who the viewer choose to identify with is ultimately who becomes the show's protagonist. I've felt that way for a long time, and to me, it's even clearer now. Just another reason why I believe it is, unquestionably, among the greatest shows of all time. The prospective can vary greatly from person to person. Yeah, the show truly connects with the audience on a human level. You feel sorry for different characters at different times, and you take on a different perception with each character on an individual basis. I was pissed when Walt killed Mike, so in that situation you connect with Jesse. At the same time, I'm of the opinion that Walt did everything for a reason. So while I agree he's lost control at various times, I don't want to see that go down the toilet. It all comes down to how you perceive the story, which ultimately dictates who you side with when the dust settles. |
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Post by noir on Sept 23, 2013 19:53:09 GMT -5
Really enjoyed this episode. I would have done the last episodes way differently personally, but I get where they're going. There's nobody left to root for, no more arcs coming to an end, just a whole lot of tragedy going down. I am totally ready for it to end. The last two episodes have been extremely traumatic and uncomfortable to watch at times. As much as I hate Walt at this point, the scenes where he begs the disappearing man for company and calls up Walt Jr were just heart wrenching. Even worse perhaps was the whole Jesse escape scene and what followed. After this I'm not sure there even is any point to giving Jesse a happy ending, unless perhaps he adopts Brock or some corny craplike that. Either way, jesus christ is Vince Gilligan one mean mother  er to his characters. |
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Post by @Sweetbob on Sept 23, 2013 22:54:15 GMT -5
This is my theory:
The so-called Czech buyers are actually the lady & guy from Gray Matter. They opened up drug rehab centers to further profit from the meth epidemic.
Walk buys the machine gun to kill the nazis, finding Jesse there unbeknownst to him. Jesse & Walt has always bonded over a mutual enemy. They work together to kill the nazis. He gives the money to Jesse, since Walt has no real family left after his son wouldn't even take 100k. Walt takes the ricin into Gray Matter and kills the lady & guy.
Also, yes, Jesse murders the hell out of Todd...like the murder RoboCop took before they made him into RoboCop.
It's just my theory. It's all in good fun and I'm 100% sure I'm wrong about every aspect of it. It's just fun to think about.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 0:11:33 GMT -5
To me, with Walt watching the Grey Matter interview, the thing that struck him most was when they said that the blue meth was still out there. That obviously meant that the nazis hadn't killed Jesse yet like they said they would, and he's mad because they're ripping off his life's work.
Also, Vince Gilligan gave a hint to the finale with the word "wood work" So i'm guessing the final face off is in the wood work room, but it could be anything. Remember Jesse said his wood work teacher was an inspiration to him.
I don't see how you guys think Walt and Jesse could ever clear things up, Walt told Jesse that he watched his girlfriend die, and didn't bother to help her. Jesse could never forgive him.
I think it'd be a really good ending to see Walt and Jesse facing off, Jesse has a gun to Walts head and Walt starts begging for forgiveness, remembering all the times they had together (it'd be cool to have a little recap of the entire series in an emotional kind of way) and says that if Jesse lets him go, he can make a deal with him of some sort and Jesse shoots him right there and then, and it either fades to black there, or Jesse kills himself as well.
I could see Jesse killing himself in the end, I mean he's realized he always gets his loved ones killed, for example Jane and Andrea. And the Nazis have pretty much made him wish he was dead
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Post by v/\v on Sept 24, 2013 6:59:32 GMT -5
I want the final scenes to be the funerals, like we see how they've died, then we get to see the ultimate payoff to their life's work, Hank, Steve, Walt & Jesse. I'm imagining Walt's being like a Jedi/Sith pyre, we see the dead body quickly burn up, then his ashes being scraped into a white sack, labelled up and then dumped on a shelf somewhere like the image below, those images played against the law and Marie, Walt jr, Holly - not sure about Skyler maybe she is the one who commits suicide, burying Hank & Steve in a big way and Jesse's family, Badger & Skinny Pete included, laying him to rest would tie it up with too much of a bow for Breaking Bad but that would to me drive home the tragedy of it all.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 11:47:35 GMT -5
Rewatching, Jesse's friends are the biggest idiots in the history of the show. I can't stand Badger, Pete, or Combo. Wish the other two were killed too.
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Post by The Boondock Syxx on Sept 24, 2013 13:30:09 GMT -5
This is my theory: The so-called Czech buyers are actually the lady & guy from Gray Matter. They opened up drug rehab centers to further profit from the meth epidemic. Walk buys the machine gun to kill the nazis, finding Jesse there unbeknownst to him. Jesse & Walt has always bonded over a mutual enemy. They work together to kill the nazis. He gives the money to Jesse, since Walt has no real family left after his son wouldn't even take 100k. Walt takes the ricin into Gray Matter and kills the lady & guy. Also, yes, Jesse murders the hell out of Todd...like the murder RoboCop took before they made him into RoboCop. It's just my theory. It's all in good fun and I'm 100% sure I'm wrong about every aspect of it. It's just fun to think about. Wow i had the exact same thought last night when i couldnt sleep maybe the reason they are crapping on walt on live tv was to save themselves and they were involved with madrigal the whole time unbeknownst to walt |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 14:04:38 GMT -5
just my opinion, but I think what hit walt the hardest with seeing the t.v. interview was gretchen saying that the kind person is no longer there....he will attempt to redeem himself more so than gain revenge (proving that he still loves his family)
so, he'll have to go full 'bad' to do 'good' -- saving jesse will be part of that, since he knows they kept him alive & probably read about andrea in the papers the guy kept bringing
what's interesting is that walt doesn't know how evil todd is, he doesn't know lydia wants skylar dead
prediction:
Walt will kill todd's uncle's crew...but not todd -- jesse does that in a tussle
Walt apologizes to jesse, but knows he deserves to die & turns his back, prepared for death...sound of a gun shot, only for walt to realize jesse has shot himself
Lydia gets the ricin somehow while visiting Todd (Todd possibly drank it too, allowing a weakened Jesse to have the upper hand in their struggle)
Skylar ends up in jail due to evidence from how Ted's injury occurred/////Walt Jr. & Marie murdered when walking in on Todd's crew & Skylar isn't home (the place they're at now)/////Walt turns himself in to save Skylar
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Post by Tye Hyll on Sept 25, 2013 0:09:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 22:58:04 GMT -5
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Post by el torro on Sept 26, 2013 10:12:32 GMT -5
What I want to know is, how long has it been since Walt was left at the little house to now? It'd have to take at least 6 months for his hair and all to grow out like that, and in that time, wouldn't Jesse already have brought up the purity in Todd's meth and should've been killed?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 10:18:23 GMT -5
What I want to know is, how long has it been since Walt was left at the little house to now? It'd have to take at least 6 months for his hair and all to grow out like that, and in that time, wouldn't Jesse already have brought up the purity in Todd's meth and should've been killed? When I completely shave my face and head, it takes like two months to get to the length Walter has his at. Also take into account that the no named man had mentioned something about the last time he gave Walt treatment. I imagine he did the first treat when he first revisited him which he said would be a month. So this being the second visit I imagine that two months seems right. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 10:53:38 GMT -5
What I want to know is, how long has it been since Walt was left at the little house to now? It'd have to take at least 6 months for his hair and all to grow out like that, and in that time, wouldn't Jesse already have brought up the purity in Todd's meth and should've been killed? When I completely shave my face and head, it takes like two months to get to the length Walter has his at. Also take into account that the no named man had mentioned something about the last time he gave Walt treatment. I imagine he did the first treat when he first revisited him which he said would be a month. So this being the second visit I imagine that two months seems right. Plus that stack of newspapers was pretty hefty. Granted a paper a day can over a month add up, but there was a lot of newspapers in that bundle. |
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