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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 18, 2013 11:07:04 GMT -5
Because it's still so rare in athletics. It needs this stage, where it's all celebrated like a big deal, to show people that it's okay. Ten years from now, it won't be a big deal. But to get to that stage, we have to go through this stage. To show people its ok? Who exactly made gay being ok? I would think that falls into an individuals opinion.. Exactly, and cases like this Darren Young one ultimately lead to more "individual opinions" not being bigoted, dumb and homophobic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 11:17:17 GMT -5
Oh you mean like race and handicaps? No..i mean like being gay. Two men cant make a child and neither can two women so theres no arguing the fact that whoever created us did not intend on us to be with the same sex. Races can reproduce with other races as well as handicaps so I fail to see any comparison there.. Wel the comparison of it being ok based on individual opinion. People think being a different race isnt ok, or being handicap isn't ok based on individual opinion. And if you go based off the thought that someone created us, then why would he even allow people to be born gay? Doesn't make much sense. Hey, if you aren't a fan of gays or gay marriage fine, but you have no right to say it isn't ok. It's not your life. And your comment about him not being allowed in the men's locker room is pretty ignorant. Just saying.
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Post by savage on Aug 18, 2013 11:30:06 GMT -5
No..i mean like being gay. Two men cant make a child and neither can two women so theres no arguing the fact that whoever created us did not intend on us to be with the same sex. Races can reproduce with other races as well as handicaps so I fail to see any comparison there.. Wel the comparison of it being ok based on individual opinion. People think being a different race isnt ok, or being handicap isn't ok based on individual opinion. And if you go based off the thought that someone created us, then why would he even allow people to be born gay? Doesn't make much sense. Hey, if you aren't a fan of gays or gay marriage fine, but you have no right to say it isn't ok. It's not your life. And your comment about him not being allowed in the men's locker room is pretty ignorant. Just saying. Im not saying it is ok or that it isnt.but just to make things clear, anyone has just as much of a right to say it isnt ok as you have a right to say that it is. That is what I mean byit comes down to personal opinion. Unless you are God, your opinion is just that, an opinion. As for being born gay... I wont even go there as it is a whole other discussion itself. Heres a question for you though. Do you also defend a pedophile the same way? I mean, after all they cant help what theyre attracted to.. Does that make it ok? I dont think so. I dont hate anyone for being gay but that doesnt mean I agree with it. My parents smoke cigarettes which I highly dissaggree with but I still care about them. People seem to think because you dont agree with someones choice of lifestyle that you must hate that person for it but that is not always the case. As for you comparison to people not agreeing with being a different race.. I still dont see any comparison as it is a totally different subject. This is about sexual preference not race or handicaps. And lastly how is the locker room comment ignorant? If he is attracted to men, why should other straight men have to feel uncomfortable getting undressed around him? You are aware that men and women have different bathrooms, locker rooms etc.. Right? Perhaps gays should have their own rooms too now that it has become so popular and they want all these rights.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 12:07:33 GMT -5
Wel the comparison of it being ok based on individual opinion. People think being a different race isnt ok, or being handicap isn't ok based on individual opinion. And if you go based off the thought that someone created us, then why would he even allow people to be born gay? Doesn't make much sense. Hey, if you aren't a fan of gays or gay marriage fine, but you have no right to say it isn't ok. It's not your life. And your comment about him not being allowed in the men's locker room is pretty ignorant. Just saying. Perhaps gays should have their own rooms too now that it has become so popular and they want all these rights. Separate but equal... what a revolutionary concept!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 12:15:17 GMT -5
Wel the comparison of it being ok based on individual opinion. People think being a different race isnt ok, or being handicap isn't ok based on individual opinion. And if you go based off the thought that someone created us, then why would he even allow people to be born gay? Doesn't make much sense. Hey, if you aren't a fan of gays or gay marriage fine, but you have no right to say it isn't ok. It's not your life. And your comment about him not being allowed in the men's locker room is pretty ignorant. Just saying. Im not saying it is ok or that it isnt.but just to make things clear, anyone has just as much of a right to say it isnt ok as you have a right to say that it is. That is what I mean byit comes down to personal opinion. Unless you are God, your opinion is just that, an opinion. As for being born gay... I wont even go there as it is a whole other discussion itself. Heres a question for you though. Do you also defend a pedophile the same way? I mean, after all they cant help what theyre attracted to.. Does that make it ok? I dont think so. I dont hate anyone for being gay but that doesnt mean I agree with it. My parents smoke cigarettes which I highly dissaggree with but I still care about them. People seem to think because you dont agree with someones choice of lifestyle that you must hate that person for it but that is not always the case. As for you comparison to people not agreeing with being a different race.. I still dont see any comparison as it is a totally different subject. This is about sexual preference not race or handicaps. And lastly how is the locker room comment ignorant? If he is attracted to men, why should other straight men have to feel uncomfortable getting undressed around him? You are aware that men and women have different bathrooms, locker rooms etc.. Right? Perhaps gays should have their own rooms too now that it has become so popular and they want all these rights. Yeah, you just compared two people of the same sex loving each other to grown men that rape children. I'm done with this conversation.
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Post by savage on Aug 18, 2013 12:46:36 GMT -5
Im not saying it is ok or that it isnt.but just to make things clear, anyone has just as much of a right to say it isnt ok as you have a right to say that it is. That is what I mean byit comes down to personal opinion. Unless you are God, your opinion is just that, an opinion. As for being born gay... I wont even go there as it is a whole other discussion itself. Heres a question for you though. Do you also defend a pedophile the same way? I mean, after all they cant help what theyre attracted to.. Does that make it ok? I dont think so. I dont hate anyone for being gay but that doesnt mean I agree with it. My parents smoke cigarettes which I highly dissaggree with but I still care about them. People seem to think because you dont agree with someones choice of lifestyle that you must hate that person for it but that is not always the case. As for you comparison to people not agreeing with being a different race.. I still dont see any comparison as it is a totally different subject. This is about sexual preference not race or handicaps. And lastly how is the locker room comment ignorant? If he is attracted to men, why should other straight men have to feel uncomfortable getting undressed around him? You are aware that men and women have different bathrooms, locker rooms etc.. Right? Perhaps gays should have their own rooms too now that it has become so popular and they want all these rights. Yeah, you just compared two people of the same sex loving each other to grown men that rape children. I'm done with this conversation. Stumped you that one didnt I? i dont recall using the word rape either or even having sex. I said attraction.
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Post by Lewscher on Aug 18, 2013 13:21:51 GMT -5
Yeah, you just compared two people of the same sex loving each other to grown men that rape children. I'm done with this conversation. Stumped you that one didnt I? i dont recall using the word rape either or even having sex. I said attraction. im agreeing with most of savage comments. its sexual preference so the pedophile comment stands, i have nothing against gays, they have every right and the fact they need to fight for that right is obserd! i would feel uncomfortable in a locker room if i felt a guy was watching me and liking it, same way as women do with men around,(doesnt mean i have anything against gay rights, as i said, they should already have the right, if a man gets on better with a man its fine, yet most men like woman on woman action but cant tollerate men being the same?) so its ok for women to want a separate locker room? makes little sense when life is based on woman-man interaction but it's peoples preferance, if women can feel uncomfortable being looked at by men (and women for that matter) why cant men be the same?
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Post by savage on Aug 18, 2013 13:29:27 GMT -5
Stumped you that one didnt I? i dont recall using the word rape either or even having sex. I said attraction. im agreeing with most of savage comments. its sexual preference so the pedophile comment stands, i have nothing against gays, they have every right and the fact they need to fight for that right is obserd! i would feel uncomfortable in a locker room if i felt a guy was watching me and liking it, same way as women do with men around,(doesnt mean i have anything against gay rights, as i said, they should already have the right, if a man gets on better with a man its fine, yet most men like woman on woman action but cant tollerate men being the same?) so its ok for women to want a separate locker room? makes little sense when life is based on woman-man interaction but it's peoples preferance, if women can feel uncomfortable being looked at by men (and women for that matter) why cant men be the same? That is exactly the point Im trying to make. I think everyone has a right to do what they want with who they want whether others agree or not but just like everything else in the world no one has to agree with it. Other than the pedos, they can all die. The point I made is valid in a way though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 11:16:36 GMT -5
Good for him indeed!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 11:58:24 GMT -5
Why is this getting bumped...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 12:04:48 GMT -5
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Post by BOOKER_T on Dec 27, 2013 15:13:24 GMT -5
No idea why this was bumped
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