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Post by HVMMONS on Aug 26, 2013 19:40:40 GMT -5
I really hope Damien wins the WHC with the MITB briefcase. When he cashes it in, and wins (knock on wood), is anyone looking forward to it? This is me being biased, but I am. I love everything about Sandow. His character is one of the best characters in WWE right now.
This being said, the WHC has lost it's "importance" the past couple years, in my opinion. I think Sandows run as WHC will be very entertaining to watch, and will bring the engaging spark that I think it's lost; that is if creative uses him right.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Aug 26, 2013 19:53:14 GMT -5
I would rather have RVD or Cody Rhodes win the WHC not Sandow
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Post by HVMMONS on Aug 26, 2013 19:55:06 GMT -5
I would rather have RVD or Cody Rhodes win the WHC not Sandow Whys that? I agree with Rhodes, I just think Damiens run would be more entertaining
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Aug 26, 2013 20:04:38 GMT -5
Rhodes has done a lot for WWE he is a vet. in the ring already it is his time to shine. RVD also deserve the WHC. Damion is a good wrestler but is not his time
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Post by drifter on Aug 26, 2013 21:35:18 GMT -5
Honestly I'm not really looking forward to him winning, and I'm a Sandow fan. The majority of the guys that cash in, especially the ones who are cashing in for their first title reign, get booked like crap. And right now, Sandow seems to be on the same booking pattern they've done for many of the winners, booked into a losing streak, suddenly win the title, and still get booked to look weak.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 1:54:36 GMT -5
The World Title has fallen in importance because they keep giving it to midcarders and trying to pass them off as main eventers despite not really establishing them as such.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Aug 27, 2013 6:02:36 GMT -5
In my opinion the only thing that could help the World Title back to main event of PPV's and bring importance back to it, will be if Punk or Cena win it again. I liked Cena with the Title because he had the WWE Title so many times before he won the World Title, it was refreshing to see him with a different Title. Then as soon as he lost it the second time he could care less about it and went after Big Show. Punk just dropped off the World Title radar until mid 2011 after he lost it to Undertaker.
I say Title way too many times :/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 6:39:17 GMT -5
Well, anyone but Rhodes is good in my eyes.
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Aug 27, 2013 17:36:05 GMT -5
Well the World Title hasn't been a true World Title sense just after WM XXVI.When Jack Swagger cashed in that was the death nail,after that it became a glorified mid card title along the lines of the IC Title.Sense that day and moving forward I have never viewed it as a true "World Title" and neither has the WWE.Just think when was the last time a World Heavyweight Title match headlined a PPV,I think it was Elimination Chamber '10.So that's again a pretty telling sign of what the WWE thinks of it.
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Post by Valbroski on Aug 27, 2013 17:44:19 GMT -5
The World Title has fallen in importance because they keep giving it to midcarders and trying to pass them off as main eventers despite not really establishing them as such. I wouldn't mind this if we didn't already have two belts specifically for mid carders.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Aug 27, 2013 17:54:17 GMT -5
I would rather Sandow attempts to cash in his briefcase, only to lose both his match and the briefcase. Honestly, Sandow winning the briefcase was almost as big of a mistake as Jack Swagger winning it. He may not be as boring as Swagger was back then, but unless he is facing an interesting opponent, I tend to skip his matches.
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Post by Chip on Aug 27, 2013 20:33:49 GMT -5
Every person who has won the WHC in the last 5 years was supposed to "bring prestige back to the title"
when are people going to realize that the WHC is NOT meant to be a prestigious title. It's a prop belt as a way to get mid-card guys over as main event talent. Most of the time it's failed. Sandow wins the WHC he'll just defend it for awhile and lose it to someone else like everyone else has. It's taken the place of the IC belt....what the IC belt used to be.
I still like it, I'm still glad they have it because a lot of the guys who have won it wouldn't be as elevated as they are without it...but to think that oh "finally someone will bring prestige back to it" is just wasting thoughts
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 20:45:02 GMT -5
They could do a lot of fun stuff with Sandow as World Heavyweight Champion.
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Post by HVMMONS on Aug 27, 2013 22:08:36 GMT -5
They could do a lot of fun stuff with Sandow as World Heavyweight Champion. Damien Sandow is a great worker, and i don't doubt that he can bring SOME relevance back to the WHC picture. It's a shame some people don't see that. I get that it's a title that can put people over, but it's changed it the past, and it can surely change again.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 28, 2013 0:06:50 GMT -5
Sandow would be much better in a speaking role. I could really see him as an amazing heel GM. He has the range to be grotesquely smug when he is screwing someone over, then outrageously flabbergasted when someone gets the better of him. He can still wrestle as GM, but his work doesn't interest me enough to buy him as a champion. Sandow has the potential to be one of the great GMs like Heyman, Bischoff, or Regal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 2:36:51 GMT -5
Every person who has won the WHC in the last 5 years was supposed to "bring prestige back to the title" when are people going to realize that the WHC is NOT meant to be a prestigious title. It's a prop belt as a way to get mid-card guys over as main event talent. Most of the time it's failed. Sandow wins the WHC he'll just defend it for awhile and lose it to someone else like everyone else has. It's taken the place of the IC belt....what the IC belt used to be. I still like it, I'm still glad they have it because a lot of the guys who have won it wouldn't be as elevated as they are without it...but to think that oh "finally someone will bring prestige back to it" is just wasting thoughts WWE does not need a prop belt to do to elevate stars. All they need to do is let mid card guys feud with established main event talents. Look at Edge. While he was the first MiTB holder, he initially got over as a main eventer in 2002 by feuding with main event talents like Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho. Ryback was pushed as a threat to WWE Champion CM Punk, and while he didn't win the title and lost a lot of PPV matches after that, he's still built up as a credible threat and potential top title contender. Fandango has been booked in longer matches against top talents. And while he loses, he's still booked competitively. Curtis Axel is currently in a program with Punk and being booked to hold his own For the past few months, big angles have been taking place on both shows, which has diminished the WHC to the point where it's not even the main program on SmackDown anymore. The Shield were the main focus of SD at one point. The Cody/Sandow feud was given more focus than the WHC program going into SummerSlam, and the current Daniel Bryan/Corporation angle is taking place on BOTH shows. If WWE needs a prop to get midcard guys over as main event talents, then imo, that prop should be the actual Money in the Bank briefcase itself, with the outcome of the wrestler's cash in and/or quality of his title reign should he be successful fringing on how well he performs with the briefcase. If he proves himself, he'll become champion. If he flops, then he should be booked to lose his cash in, or be a transitional or midcarding champion (overshadowed by the likes of Cena, Punk, HHH, McMahons, etc.) A major difference between the IC Title of old and the current World Heavyweight Title is presentation. While the wrestlers competing for the WHC are have noticeably less star power and are given less story focus than those competing for the WWE Title, kayfabe wise, we're supposed to think that they're equal. We were never supposed to think that the Honky Tonk Man, Ricky Steamboat, Mr. Perfect or Tito Santana were as big as Hulk Hogan, but WWE wants us to suspend disbelief and believe that Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Christian, RVD, etc. are on the same level as John Cena and CM Punk.
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Post by Prototype on Aug 28, 2013 2:43:59 GMT -5
Thing is, I wouldn't mind Sandow winning the WHC. However, I just know he'll be the usual chicken type of heel, he'll be winning/losing his matches by count out and disqualification. We'll be seeing the same thing over and over and over again.
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Post by MELO on Aug 28, 2013 5:43:15 GMT -5
Has Ambrose brought back prestige to the US Title? Has Axel done the same for the IC? Shield with the Tag? Wwe seems to shift priorities with the championships and storylines,, for the time being they appear focused on the WWE title / power struggle, punk/heyman story and possibly now Divas with the recent pipebombshell. Maybe down the line the aforementioned belts will get the attention they deserve.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 28, 2013 8:57:49 GMT -5
I can't wait to see it. Anytime someone cashes in, it's special. It all depends on how he's booked and how good the rest of the SD roster can be. There's only so much Sandow can do by himself. I think a feud with Ziggler would be perfect for him.
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