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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 23:52:43 GMT -5
Let's stay with mattel
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Post by WalterF on Sept 2, 2013 0:01:42 GMT -5
Honestly I'm stoked with the current style of figures. I don't feel any need for immediate change is needed. Of course I encourage that constant small tweaks and improvements always take place but that's about it.
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Post by joesgonnakillu on Sept 2, 2013 0:08:24 GMT -5
I'm up for anything.
If 3 3/4" is next then I hope Mattel learns from what Jakks did improve.
Lets just move away from the Hasbro/flex force gimmicks.
And the farther away we move from the maximum sweat figures the better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 0:51:16 GMT -5
This would be in the distant future (20+ years) and call me crazy but... remote control wrestling figures. Toys that ACTUALLY fight, not the powerslammer or flexforce garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 1:03:48 GMT -5
Bricks styled as wwe figures
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Post by poindizzle on Sept 2, 2013 1:11:01 GMT -5
Well, from Mattel's standpoint, they are probably going to re-sign another merch deal with WWE. This coming year is going to have to have some new revenue stream and Power Slammers are not it. As if we didn't already know that Power Slammers are a shelf-warming turd, Mattel has not come on here to defend them like they used to with FlexForce, which was a pretty decent seller around here until the cheesy lightning gimmick. What Mattel is going to want is another line to supplement the income and be far enough removed from the Elite and Basic line to justify it's existence. So what will be next? I don't have a clue.
I believe if another manufacturer had to take over that 3 and 3/4 is going to be the standard, and perhaps a six inch wave quarterly to supplement it. But again, I don't think Mattel is going anywhere anytime soon.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 2, 2013 1:12:44 GMT -5
Would be epic! We kinda have a head start with that idea with the Hot Toys 1/6 Roadblock!!! I can already see people making custom boots, tights, elbow/knee pads, and wrist bands for tape and reselling him as The Rock. I would try to make a custom!
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Post by poindizzle on Sept 2, 2013 1:35:59 GMT -5
With sports heroes like Michael Jordan getting those massive Enterbay figures, I could see an Icon like John Cena getting a 1/6 or 1/4 scale figure. He's a household name. He and the Rock would both be timely solid choices. And despite not being much of a Cena fan, I admit that I would get it.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Sept 2, 2013 2:09:11 GMT -5
If they replaced Basics with the 3.75 scale that is inevitable, I hope that the Elite line remains as is. It would be cool to have both of those lines going at the same time.
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Post by n2jib on Sept 2, 2013 2:21:00 GMT -5
This would be in the distant future (20+ years) and call me crazy but... remote control wrestling figures. Toys that ACTUALLY fight, not the powerslammer or flexforce garbage. Thats something i've been thinking of since 20 years ago.. haha. Currently i just want legs that can go beyond 90°.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Sept 2, 2013 3:15:00 GMT -5
Please Mattel, extend the license another 10 years.
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Post by jericho1 on Sept 2, 2013 9:21:40 GMT -5
I think 3 3/4 is coming. If nothing else, from a cost standpoint. Cheaper to make and will still probably carry a $10 price point.
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Post by *LS_58* on Sept 2, 2013 9:27:51 GMT -5
How about guys with human like articulation that dosent show (ie the ab crunch on elites) and human like feel. Like their flesh is fleshy, clothes/gear is cloth, etc. As real as it gets have fun paying 60+ dollars for a figure at retail
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 2, 2013 10:38:46 GMT -5
Jakks Build n Brawl wave right back at you. They've tried the 3.75" line, they failed. We're getting real scan technology and highly detailed figures (CM Punks tattoos for example)...its nearly impossible to replicate that in 3.75" form. Its common sense. But that was not your argument...That they had failed once. Let's stick to what you said before. You said the needed detail was not to be found in a 4 inch figure. Gi Joe, Star Wars and the other lines I mentioned have LOTS of detail in them. So they CAN get detail in 4 inch figures. what detail did you think I was talking about? You cant make a CM Punk figure that has a real scan/sculpt look to it and all his tattoos in detail. Again, its common sense. I have never seen a gi joe figure that uses the same detail that a Punk, RVD or Ryback would take.
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Post by The Assassin on Sept 2, 2013 12:04:57 GMT -5
Surprised nobody has mentioned this, but the next big step in action figure evolution will almost certainly be buying a digital sculpt and printing it yourself on a 3D printer. It's still 5-10 years away or more at the moment I'd guess, but this is the way things are heading. Digital sculpts and 3D printing are already in everyday use during the design process at Mattel and other toy companies. It's only a matter of time before they perfect the technologies, bring the prices down to levels affordable to the general public, and work out how to make it work as a business model.
Personally I'm looking forward to it, as it will surely give toy companies a wider variety of options for offering products to customers, and it will allow the individual needs of customers/collectors to be met more precisely.
For example, as it is now, Mattel aren't gonna make a Flashback Gobbledy Gooker, because the costs of physical manufacture and production are considered too high to turn a profit or even break even. But if the customer is paying for the materials for physical production themselves via their 3D printer "plastic cartridges" (or whatever they end up using), all Mattel has to cost is the technical and aesthetic design costs. It may not be feasable for Mattel to make a Gobbledy Gooker in the way we get figures now, but if in the future they can offer digital sculpts to print at home, then the lower revenue needed to turn a profit or break even may make these less-demanded figures more feasable.
Another example is the style, scale and quality of figures. As it stands Mattel offer 6 inch figures in basic articulation style or elite articulation style, which are painted to a fair degree of detail. In future 3D printing at home will likely allow customers a much wider choice. We will be able to choose a smaller or larger scale, more or less articulation points, and a higher or lower level of paint detail. This will allow toy companies like Mattel to more easily cater to a wider variety of customers, for example those who want lower quality/cheaper figures and those who want higher quality/more expensive figures.
No doubt technologies will always improve in terms of what is the highest quality figure possible for any price point. But we're at a point now where the highest quality figures have long left the toy aisles and the kid-aimed price level. Look at Japanese companies like Figma (e.g. their Link figure from Legend Of Zelda) and Figuarts (e.g. their Mighty Morphin Power Rangers figures) to see what I'd consider some examples of the highest quality 6-inch figures available today, and companies like Hot Toys and Big Chief are leading the way in 12-inch. Incredible quality, but very pricey. Even mid-level quality figures, like Masters Of The Universe Classics and DC Universe Classics, while impressive quality with a decent size fanbase, Mattel are really struggling to make the business model work. My point is that we likely won't see any major quality improvement on wrestling figures again until the whole business model changes (which as I said will be most likely be when we start buying digital sculpts to 3D print at home). The only other possibility I guess would be if wrestling had a sudden surge in popularity, which given the state of WWE/TNA at the moment I can't see happening.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Sept 2, 2013 16:37:21 GMT -5
This would be in the distant future (20+ years) and call me crazy but... remote control wrestling figures. Toys that ACTUALLY fight, not the powerslammer or flexforce garbage. Take the concept of the film Reel Steel, build two foot robots portraying any wrestler of your creation, & have groups of people organize promotions where you can have competitions to see who can perform the best match. Divide people up into teams, & have judges for the matches just as you would for Gymnastics or Figure Skating. Then it would become a huge enterprise like the R/C Car racing culture. The possibilities are endless.
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Post by Darkhawk on Sept 2, 2013 17:06:42 GMT -5
If anything I'm going to be staying with Mattel forever. I rather not move on to another company, I'd be pretty cool if Bandai took the license, but then the figures would be around $60 and I'm not sure Bandai does anything else besides Cartoons, Game and anime characters.
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Post by Justin on Sept 2, 2013 17:11:09 GMT -5
The 3d printer idea is amazing. Their wouldnt be any complaining because we could make what we want. No more Cm Punk bret hart attire complaints would be nice
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Post by micco on Sept 2, 2013 18:05:39 GMT -5
I've never heard a good explanation for why marvel legends figures can all have completely unique sculpts head to toe but that can't be achieved with wwe figures. That's also the next step in the evolution that I'd like to see.
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Post by alexgg on Sept 2, 2013 18:11:44 GMT -5
I do think figures in the future will be smaller, it's happening in a lot of lines.
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