Y2J13
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Post by Y2J13 on Sept 7, 2013 20:16:10 GMT -5
RAGNAROK, so if I hear you correctly: - Eating healthily will stop you from getting any and all diseases - You're willing to endanger other people's life because you don't want a couple of injections, which also benefit you Congratulations on having the most ridiculous argument this year. I'm not willing to endanger anybody but I'm also not willing to force people into doing something they don't want to. So should we not even bother having laws then?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 7, 2013 20:16:28 GMT -5
Vitamin C is bullcrap. It does not help with colds in any way. The Vitamin C you get by eating the right fruits and vegatables boosts your immune system and that's a proven fact. Vitamin C improves your bodie's absorption of iron from plant based foods which boosts your immune system to protect from disease. Again, that's a proven fact. No matter how "boosted" your immune system is it doesn't protect you from every single disease on the planet. You realize that right? If you're not vaccinated and you're exposed to measles you have a very high probability of getting measles regardless of what you've been eating.
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Post by slappy on Sept 7, 2013 20:16:45 GMT -5
But it won't stop you from getting cancer. Or measles or anything that would be prevented from vaccinations. I never said Vitamin C prevents cancer. But there are fruits and vegetables that do help in preventing cancer. Lower risk or prevent?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 7, 2013 20:17:29 GMT -5
RAGNAROK, so if I hear you correctly: - Eating healthily will stop you from getting any and all diseases - You're willing to endanger other people's life because you don't want a couple of injections, which also benefit you Congratulations on having the most ridiculous argument this year. I'm not willing to endanger anybody but I'm also not willing to force people into doing something they don't want to. And eating the right fruits and vegetables will help prevent disease. That's a proven fact. But you are willing to let other people endanger others including yourself?
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 7, 2013 20:18:02 GMT -5
I never said Vitamin C prevents cancer. But there are fruits and vegetables that do help in preventing cancer. Lower risk or prevent? Both.
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Y2J13
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Post by Y2J13 on Sept 7, 2013 20:18:54 GMT -5
RAGNAROK, so if I hear you correctly: - Eating healthily will stop you from getting any and all diseases - You're willing to endanger other people's life because you don't want a couple of injections, which also benefit you Congratulations on having the most ridiculous argument this year. And eating the right fruits and vegetables will help prevent disease. That's a proven fact. No, it will lower the risk. Eating fruit and vegetables will not prevent you from getting cancer. Fact.
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Post by slappy on Sept 7, 2013 20:20:34 GMT -5
Which fruits and vegetables prevent cancer? Also, I was wondering since you believe the government should never be able to force you to do something then the government should not have the ability to prevent you from doing something. Right?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 7, 2013 20:23:17 GMT -5
I would love to see the studies on which fruits/vegetables prevent which cancer. I'd love to know what cancer can be prevented by eating fruits/vegetables.
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Post by slappy on Sept 7, 2013 20:23:47 GMT -5
I would love to see the studies on which fruits/vegetables prevent which cancer. I'd love to know what cancer can be prevented by eating fruits/vegetables. NPR must be lying
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That 80s Guy
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Post by That 80s Guy on Sept 7, 2013 20:23:57 GMT -5
-- I just found out this week, I can't be put on the kidney transplant list, unless I get a flu vaccination. Which personally, it's pure and utter horseh*t - considering the arsenic elements that were in last years flu shots.
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Post by Y2J13 on Sept 7, 2013 20:26:42 GMT -5
-- I just found out this week, I can't be put on the kidney transplant list, unless I get a flu vaccination. Which personally, it's pure and utter horseh*t - considering the arsenic elements that were in last years flu shots. It's just a flu shot, they're hardly injecting you with AIDS. Just do it. The risk is very low.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 7, 2013 20:26:48 GMT -5
Not prevent, sorry, but it does reduce the risk same as vaccines. Vaccines don't prevent getting sick either.
I'm just curious, what exactly was the point of this thread?
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Post by Y2J13 on Sept 7, 2013 20:31:18 GMT -5
Not prevent, sorry, but it does reduce the risk same as vaccines. Vaccines don't prevent getting sick either.I'm just curious, what exactly was the point of this thread? lol that isn't true in the slightest and the point of this thread was to ask whether we're in favour of forced vaccinations or not. you said you're not, because of some bogus reason. and now here we are.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 7, 2013 20:31:34 GMT -5
Not prevent, sorry, but it does reduce the risk same as vaccines. Vaccines don't prevent getting sick either. I'm just curious, what exactly was the point of this thread? Eating fruits/vegetables - does not reduce the risk of getting something like chicken pox, measles, mumps, polio, etc.... Vaccinations - reduce the risk of getting said diseases to virtually nil.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Sept 7, 2013 20:32:36 GMT -5
-- I just found out this week, I can't be put on the kidney transplant list, unless I get a flu vaccination. Which personally, it's pure and utter horseh*t - considering the arsenic elements that were in last years flu shots. It's just a flu shot, they're hardly injecting you with AIDS. Just do it. The risk is very low. -- Maybe, but 1) I rather NOT inject elements that can mess with my already funked-up system, and 2) it's the principle of the matter. Nobody should be forced into getting a flu shot, as it's always been optional (and I haven't had a flu shot since 2009 and been fine since). I'd rather get sick naturally, than intake something man-made that could get me sick. Guess I'm crazy like that.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 7, 2013 20:36:41 GMT -5
Not prevent, sorry, but it does reduce the risk same as vaccines. Vaccines don't prevent getting sick either. I'm just curious, what exactly was the point of this thread? Eating fruits/vegetables - does not reduce the risk of getting something like chicken pox, measles, mumps, polio, etc.... Vaccinations - reduce the risk of getting said diseases to virtually nil. Whatever. What I want to know is what was the purpose of making this thread?
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Post by slappy on Sept 7, 2013 20:38:01 GMT -5
Eating fruits/vegetables - does not reduce the risk of getting something like chicken pox, measles, mumps, polio, etc.... Vaccinations - reduce the risk of getting said diseases to virtually nil. Whatever. What I want to know is what was the purpose of making this thread? And I'd like to know if you think it's ok for the government to prevent people from doing things.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Sept 7, 2013 20:38:20 GMT -5
What gives YOU the right to force ME to get a vaccination I don't want. Said vaccine makes both of us healthier. Greatest good, greatest number. Pure utilitarianism. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It's a basic social theory. It's a basic load of bull...The end doesn't justify the means.
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Post by Y2J13 on Sept 7, 2013 20:38:52 GMT -5
It's just a flu shot, they're hardly injecting you with AIDS. Just do it. The risk is very low. -- Maybe, but 1) I rather NOT inject elements that can mess with my already funked-up system, and 2) it's the principle of the matter. Nobody should be forced into getting a flu shot, as it's always been optional (and I haven't had a flu shot since 2009 and been fine since). I'd rather get sick naturally, than intake something man-made that could get me sick. Guess I'm crazy like that. Don't you think the doctors know best? I doubt they would inject you with something if it had a high risk of making you sick. And they aren't forcing you to get a flu shot. They're giving you the option of having a flu shot and being put on the transplant list, or not.
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Post by Y2J13 on Sept 7, 2013 20:40:10 GMT -5
Said vaccine makes both of us healthier. Greatest good, greatest number. Pure utilitarianism. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It's a basic social theory. It's a basic load of bull...The end doesn't justify the means. So your selfish ass needs are more important than many others combined? I don't think so, pal.
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