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Post by Kollector_Kombat on Jul 9, 2016 18:34:21 GMT -5
Looks like a MacFarlane type of style. Think it's the ASM2 body too. I really don't buy it as a McFarlane version. That's what I keep hearing it is, but -- something doesn't sit right with me about it as that. I thought that version had a lot more webbing lines? And curvier lines? Seems like just a darker Pizza spidey to me. Curious to know what they officially announce it as. The eyes to me are exactly how Todd would draw them, you're right about the webbing on the costume though.
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Post by Robert69 on Jul 9, 2016 18:35:34 GMT -5
I really don't buy it as a McFarlane version. That's what I keep hearing it is, but -- something doesn't sit right with me about it as that. I thought that version had a lot more webbing lines? And curvier lines? Seems like just a darker Pizza spidey to me. Curious to know what they officially announce it as. The eyes to me are exactly how Todd would draw them, you're right about the webbing on the costume though. Yeah, the eyes are right, and the color tones are right, but -- the webbing. I think that's what it is that i'm not buying. He always did the horizontal webbing SUPER curvy, and there was a LOT of it.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 9, 2016 18:36:05 GMT -5
Maybe just a darker suit n diff eyes but looks like pizza spidey body
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Post by TheLastDude on Jul 9, 2016 18:46:32 GMT -5
I'd wager it's a shortcut McF Spidey. The coloring and the eyes are right...but they just didn't want to try to replicate the insane amount of tiny curvy web lines that would need to go on the figure.
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Post by Kollector_Kombat on Jul 9, 2016 18:51:45 GMT -5
Enchantress looks a lot better in that picture too. Almost looked like the same headsculpt as Witches. I really only want her from that set.
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Post by Robert69 on Jul 9, 2016 19:08:56 GMT -5
I'd wager it's a shortcut McF Spidey. The coloring and the eyes are right...but they just didn't want to try to replicate the insane amount of tiny curvy web lines that would need to go on the figure. I wager you're right. I'll still wait for a more accurate iteration personally
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 9, 2016 19:29:13 GMT -5
I think Rogue looks sexy!
My WS and Falcon arrived yesterday. Hoping to get pics up by tomorrow. I havent even opened them
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Post by ricflair4ever on Jul 9, 2016 19:33:03 GMT -5
Even though i have interest in the set,count me inthe group that isn't ready to hail that Spidey to be a MacFarlane version. At least not yet, perhaps upon more loose and detailed pics, but for now its not quite there. I kind of figure its just a figure there to fill space but be unique enough to be considered a different pizza spidey. Since that figure was a home run on all fronts, they probably assume folks will be happy with an alternate version of basically the same thing. Also, upon seeing more pics of the MCU Spidey figure, I've realized why I'm such a fan of it. It has undertones of being like a Mego Spiderman done ML style. Maybe not the actual Mego figure itself, but something of that eras Spider man aesthetic. The headsculpt just reminds me of that except with all the webbing painted on it.
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Post by Yoshihiko The G.O.A.T on Jul 9, 2016 20:24:31 GMT -5
Ok so what is going on with Iron-Man? I don't read comics anymore so a possible spoiler. According to News12 yesterday Marvel unveiled a 15 year old girl as being the new Iron-Man after the Civil War story is done.
So Now Iron Mans Black And A Girl, Caps Black, Thors A Girl, Captain Marvel Is Muslin American Girl, and Spidermans Hispanic And Black, I'm black and even I feel like there trying too hard. you cant just go and change famous characters for no reason at all other than diversity imo.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jul 9, 2016 20:31:03 GMT -5
Ok so what is going on with Iron-Man? I don't read comics anymore so a possible spoiler. According to News12 yesterday Marvel unveiled a 15 year old girl as being the new Iron-Man after the Civil War story is done.
So Now Iron Mans Black And A Girl, Caps Black, Thors A Girl, Captain Marvel Is Muslin American Girl, and Spidermans Hispanic And Black, I'm black and even I feel like there trying too hard. you cant just go and change famous characters for no reason at all other than diversity imo. Don't worry, when Trump becomes president, he'll make comics great again..
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Post by FBtagteamsrule on Jul 9, 2016 20:36:33 GMT -5
dont think i am ever getting the x-men set. went from WI to MN and apparently stopped for vacation as it has been there since the 6th.
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Post by Yoshihiko The G.O.A.T on Jul 9, 2016 20:41:49 GMT -5
So Now Iron Mans Black And A Girl, Caps Black, Thors A Girl, Captain Marvel Is Muslin American Girl, and Spidermans Hispanic And Black, I'm black and even I feel like there trying too hard. you cant just go and change famous characters for no reason at all other than diversity imo. Don't worry, when Trump becomes president, he'll make comics great again.. that was the funniest thing ive heard all week lol
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Post by ricflair4ever on Jul 9, 2016 21:32:03 GMT -5
The ironic thing is they're actually selling these new characters short by making them piggy back off of established characters. They're basically saying "here's our token black/girl/foreign/ LGBT characters ! Look at us, we're soooo tolerant and hip" instead of putting some creativity and real thought into new characters who just happen to be any one of those persuasions. Maybe its proof the ol bullpen is, frankly, out of ideas.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jul 9, 2016 21:43:00 GMT -5
The ironic thing is they're actually selling these new characters short by making them piggy back off of established characters. They're basically saying "here's our token black/girl/foreign/ LGBT characters ! Look at us, we're soooo tolerant and hip" instead of putting some creativity and real thought into new characters who just happen to be any one of those persuasions. Maybe its proof the ol bullpen is, frankly, out of ideas. Marvel making her take Tony's Role as Iron Man is just beyond stupid and I'm sure majority won't buy into the change. Usually changes don't really last long just look at the time when Falcon and Bucky took on the role as Captain America, it didn't take long for Steve to come back. I'm thinking Marvel will have the teenage girl fight alongside Tony's much like War Machine did now that he's dead, she can fill in the spot.
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Post by PJ on Jul 9, 2016 22:14:41 GMT -5
Ok I am lost now. So what happened to these characters? Are they dead or just replaced in different universes? Are there still books being released with these original heroes?
1. Peter Parker - I didn't know anything about Peter being replaced. When did this happen and what happened to Peter Parker?
2. Captain Marvel - I know he was killed off from cancer. But is he still a character in a different Marvel universe?
3. Tony Stark - I saw in the news he was being replaced with the girl, but are they killing Tony off? Or is she going to be Iron-Man in another universe?
4. Thor - I knew Thor is a female now, but what happened to the original Thor? Or is it an alternate universe?
5. Steve Rogers - First off I had read he was killed off a few years ago. Then I read somewhere that Falcon was Captain America, but now I read Steve Rogers is actually a Hydra agent. So how many alternate universes is Captain America in that he can have so many changes where it still makes sense?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 9, 2016 22:21:09 GMT -5
Ok so what is going on with Iron-Man? I don't read comics anymore so a possible spoiler. According to News12 yesterday Marvel unveiled a 15 year old girl as being the new Iron-Man after the Civil War story is done.
So Now Iron Mans Black And A Girl, Caps Black, Thors A Girl, Captain Marvel Is Muslin American Girl, and Spidermans Hispanic And Black, I'm black and even I feel like there trying too hard. you cant just go and change famous characters for no reason at all other than diversity imo. Comics have gone WAY too PC. Evidently there will be 2 IM. There is the 15 year old black girl AND Victor Von Doom. Like IM....there are 2 Caps with one being black, who replaced Rogers. Jane Foster has taken over as Thor when Odinson was deemed not worthy any longer. But, original Thor is retunring in the coming months and will be wielding the Ultimates Thor's axe-hammer. The only Captain Marvel I am familiar with is white. I wasnt even aware of this change. Spiderman is Miles Morales from the Ultimate Universe. I have less of an issue with Morales than the others. Its just like Spider Gwen. You have an alternate timeline/universe and sometimes that causes a different person to dawn the role of said super hero. My issue with IM, Cap and Thor....it all screams a direct change in order to show the world how diversified Marvel in order to attract more and more readers and subscribers. I dont think doing this in comics, movies, etc. is EVER a good idea! You make a change because creatively it makes for a better story or fits the story you want to tell. You dont do it be PC. Can imagine if a white guy became Black Panther? Marvel never seems to take a minority character and change them to become white. Hell, DC fans screamed to high heavens during new 52 because Oliver Queen didnt have his goatee but Marvel fans seem to be scared to scream about this.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 9, 2016 22:46:04 GMT -5
Ok I am lost now. So what happened to these characters? Are they dead or just replaced in different universes? Are there still books being released with these original heroes? 1. Peter Parker - I didn't know anything about Peter being replaced. When did this happen and what happened to Peter Parker? 2. Captain Marvel - I know he was killed off from cancer. But is he still a character in a different Marvel universe? 3. Tony Stark - I saw in the news he was being replaced with the girl, but are they killing Tony off? Or is she going to be Iron-Man in another universe? 4. Thor - I knew Thor is a female now, but what happened to the original Thor? Or is it an alternate universe? 5. Steve Rogers - First off I had read he was killed off a few years ago. Then I read somewhere that Falcon was Captain America, but now I read Steve Rogers is actually a Hydra agent. So how many alternate universes is Captain America in that he can have so many changes where it still makes sense? 1. I'm not an expert in Spidey books, but last I knew is that Parker took over as a teacher for the Jean Grey School. Miles Morales is the Spiderman from the Ultimate Universe that ended up crashing into Earth 616 and led to several Ultimate deaths in one fashion or another. 2. Not a Captain Marvel fan....dont really know. Carol Danvers is all I know. 3. Stark isnt dying. But because of Civil War II, Stark is going to choose to leave IM behind and go out on his own. Evidently a a teenage black girl will be taking over, who is a genuis of some sort. Also Victor Von Doom will be taking over another version of Iron Man. 4. As a result of Original Sin, Odinson was deemed not worthy to wield Mjolnir following a mysterious whisper from Nick Fury. So Jane Foster was chosen as the next Thor. Odinson continued to fight as Odinson and using Jarnbjorn. Unfortunately in a battle against Malakeith, he loses his arm and then goes and gets a prosthetic one. Odinson is going to be returning as a Thor shortly and is supposed to be wielding the axe-hammer of the Ultimates Thor. 5. Rogers was "assassinated" to end Civil War. He wasnt really....instead he was forced into some crazy other dimension called Dimension Z. PLEASE DO NOT ASK MORE! Quite possibly the WORST Captain America story of all time. Red Skull is responsible using Sharon Carter. Rogers eventually escapes with the help of a Skrull and comes back to 616. He defeats Red Skull as Cap next to his successor Bucky as Cap at the urging of Stark.Rogers eventually gets a full pardon and can resume as Cap. He chooses not to and says Bucks has earned that role. Rogers becomes Commander Rogers and leads an elite dark covert Avengers team called the Secret Avengers. This was an EXCELLENT book until Rogers left. The President also replaces Osborne as the new head of SHIELD with Rogers and Rogers brings back the Avengers. Bucky "dies" and Rogers reclaims Cap. In reality, Bucky was injected with the Infiity Formula. This allowed Bucky to be "dead to the world" and go back to perform secret missions relating to his Winter Soldier days. Only Rogers, Fury and Romanov know the truth. This then leads to the Time Runs Out story. In a battle with Iron Nail, Rogers' secret soldier syrum is neutralized and Rogers goes from being a man in his prime to 80 years old. Rogers is stuck as an 80 year old for about a year. Eventually a child called Kobik would restore Rogers to his normal self. I wont spoil you on Kobik on who or what she is or how that leads to current day Rogers. Its pretty damn cool. Rogers returns as Captain America alongside Falcon Cap. Then its revealed in the new Rogers comic that Steve Rogers is a sleeper agent for Hydra and has been working for the Red Skull and the Nazis since the 1940s. Then Cap fans went ape crap and issue 2 comes out and things are not exactly what they seem.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Jul 9, 2016 23:14:05 GMT -5
It used to be that when any one of those type of events ocurred (like any of the ones posted above me) that they were big deals with long lasting repercussions. Flash's death in COIE, or Barbra Gordons paralysis in Killing Joke, Jean Grey's FIRST death, Parker marrying MJ, etc......now they write themselves into a corner by HAVING to have a major death, timeline alter, reboot, rebirth ,so on and so forth, sooo often....that it all rings hollow to me these days. And when they do make waves that stand out, its usually either a stupid move (gender bending/race trading for no reason other than some cheap easy headlines) or its a move thats a cash grab with no lasting effect on the overall narrative....or both stupid and relatively useless (Hydra Cap). Going thru that above mentioned list of brief character bios stretching out over the last few years , its enough to wish for a total reboot. But what we're getting right now IS the reboot. Lol....None of this is to say they haven't had some good characters come out of some of these moves. Morales and Spider Gwen are great fits, Silk and Spider Bitch have been good additions. The most frustrating thing about Captain Hydra is ,to me, a wasted opportunity to create a brand new arch nemesis type character for Cap. But they went for the headlines and quick cash with tge whole 'Caps a traitor' thing, which I'm sure will not exactly be the case. So, its gotten to the point where i feel the only cannon that exists in my mind is whatever i choose to exist from the years of reading these iconic characters. Hell, thats part of the appeal of collecting these ML and DC figures. I can make my own continuity and leave it at that! Lol
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 10, 2016 0:01:23 GMT -5
It used to be that when any one of those type of events ocurred (like any of the ones posted above me) that they were big deals with long lasting repercussions. Flash's death in COIE, or Barbra Gordons paralysis in Killing Joke, Jean Grey's FIRST death, Parker marrying MJ, etc......now they write themselves into a corner by HAVING to have a major death, timeline alter, reboot, rebirth ,so on and so forth, sooo often....that it all rings hollow to me these days. And when they do make waves that stand out, its usually either a stupid move (gender bending/race trading for no reason other than some cheap easy headlines) or its a move thats a cash grab with no lasting effect on the overall narrative....or both stupid and relatively useless (Hydra Cap). Going thru that above mentioned list of brief character bios stretching out over the last few years , its enough to wish for a total reboot. But what we're getting right now IS the reboot. Lol....None of this is to say they haven't had some good characters come out of some of these moves. Morales and Spider Gwen are great fits, Silk and Spider Bitch have been good additions. The most frustrating thing about Captain Hydra is ,to me, a wasted opportunity to create a brand new arch nemesis type character for Cap. But they went for the headlines and quick cash with tge whole 'Caps a traitor' thing, which I'm sure will not exactly be the case. So, its gotten to the point where i feel the only cannon that exists in my mind is whatever i choose to exist from the years of reading these iconic characters. Hell, thats part of the appeal of collecting these ML and DC figures. I can make my own continuity and leave it at that! Lol Issue 2 is REALLY good of Cap. You can tell that it was written DIRECTLY in response to the backlash as its almost entirely taking place in the past and has no present day action. Almost like issue 2 will probably turn out to be issue 3. And yes Marvel and DC both are always looking to "cash in". Both companies did reboots in 2016. Rebooting series to #1 happens constantly because its been proven that comics marked #1 will sell better and will attract new readers as they will feel this is a good jumping on point. Then after awhile, they reboot back to the original numbering...so you go from issue 26 to issue #698. Just so they can have the epic #700. Seems like every 3-6 months Marvel and DC have some major world shaking event that leads to a reboot of some sort.
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Post by Robert69 on Jul 10, 2016 0:03:33 GMT -5
It used to be that when any one of those type of events ocurred (like any of the ones posted above me) that they were big deals with long lasting repercussions. Flash's death in COIE, or Barbra Gordons paralysis in Killing Joke, Jean Grey's FIRST death, Parker marrying MJ, etc......now they write themselves into a corner by HAVING to have a major death, timeline alter, reboot, rebirth ,so on and so forth, sooo often....that it all rings hollow to me these days. And when they do make waves that stand out, its usually either a stupid move (gender bending/race trading for no reason other than some cheap easy headlines) or its a move thats a cash grab with no lasting effect on the overall narrative....or both stupid and relatively useless (Hydra Cap). Going thru that above mentioned list of brief character bios stretching out over the last few years , its enough to wish for a total reboot. But what we're getting right now IS the reboot. Lol....None of this is to say they haven't had some good characters come out of some of these moves. Morales and Spider Gwen are great fits, Silk and Spider Bitch have been good additions. The most frustrating thing about Captain Hydra is ,to me, a wasted opportunity to create a brand new arch nemesis type character for Cap. But they went for the headlines and quick cash with tge whole 'Caps a traitor' thing, which I'm sure will not exactly be the case. So, its gotten to the point where i feel the only cannon that exists in my mind is whatever i choose to exist from the years of reading these iconic characters. Hell, thats part of the appeal of collecting these ML and DC figures. I can make my own continuity and leave it at that! Lol Issue 2 is REALLY good of Cap. You can tell that it was written DIRECTLY in response to the backlash as its almost entirely taking place in the past and has no present day action. Almost like issue 2 will probably turn out to be issue 3. And yes Marvel and DC both are always looking to "cash in". Both companies did reboots in 2016. Rebooting series to #1 happens constantly because its been proven that comics marked #1 will sell better and will attract new readers as they will feel this is a good jumping on point. Then after awhile, they reboot back to the original numbering...so you go from issue 26 to issue #698. Just so they can have the epic #700. Seems like every 3-6 months Marvel and DC have some major world shaking event that leads to a reboot of some sort. And usually? It's lame...
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