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Post by The Madness on Oct 3, 2013 12:45:21 GMT -5
New Generation figures definitely need 123 Kid, Doink, Razor, blueblood HHH, early Goldust, Sid, and Mabel. Alundra Blayze and Owen Hart would be nice, but they're not happening.
I never considered Papa Shango part of the New Generation. To me, he was in the tail end of the era that came before it.
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Post by East Coast on Oct 3, 2013 12:54:43 GMT -5
New Generation figures definitely need 123 Kid, Doink, Razor, blueblood HHH, early Goldust, Sid, and Mabel. Alundra Blayze and Owen Hart would be nice, but they're not happening. I never considered Papa Shango part of the New Generation. To me, he was in the tail end of the era that came before it. i think Papa Shango's New Gen. what timeframe New Gen is seems to vary. WWE says 94-98. Wiki says 93-96. In my mind New Gen is from when Bret Hart became WWF Champion fall 1992 to when DX started forming in the summer of 1997 i wanted to say Alundra Blaze earlier...but didn't want to be judged
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 13:22:23 GMT -5
In need of a anvil for sure
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Post by MachoManiac on Oct 3, 2013 19:25:40 GMT -5
Vince still often mentioned " new generation" in 1996.. but imo with goldust, pillman, birth of stonecold, and heels vs heels, 1996 saw the small hints of attitude.. but i feel the attitude era " Officially" began two weeks after the montreal screwjob... when vince gave the BREAKING KAYFABE pre-raw promo... BUT obviously certain incidents like pillman GUNPOINT, or harts vs usa & austin , hbk & hhh & chyna & rude forming dx starting the beginning of attitude.. now onto the topic @ Hand.. the New Generation.. two names come to mind first and foremost.. Bret The Hitman Hart The Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels obviously bret came in to the E in 1985, hbk in 88.. but the enw gen era, we got bret's rsc fig from it along with hbk's basic flashback.. but soo many more outfits from both would rep the new gen era i just dont consider 1992 new gen yet, even tho i want a 92 heel hbk badd.... imo new gen began in late 93 once hulk was gone for good. Bret, Shawn, Diesel, Undertaker (purple, Yokozuna, Razor Ramon, 123 kid (prefer X-pac), Sycho SID, Owen Hart, Davey Boy with long tights long hair ( would prefer a 92 bulldog).... smoking gunns ( dont want em!) i could go on and on let me just say imo for the NEW GENERATION ERA, we got a decent amount of top card workers, macho man spent most of it announcing with some work obviously we want his neon cowboy gear BADD MATTEL.. BADD!!!! my point is i feel most of the roster would never sell.. ratings were LOW, houses were small, the mid card - savio, justin the hawk bradshaw!, Flash Funk, Adam bomd... bla bla waste of time.. give us more HBK & BRET & MACHO and we need a SID. now on to more important topic, forget which generation..the bottom line is DEAR MATTEL the following superstars must be made and will sell.. i thought this was a good thread to display the most important flashbacks that we need still, but it should go without saying that BRET HART, HBK, UNDERTAKER, MACHO MAN, STONECOLD, ULTIMATE WARRIOR, ROCK & 1 day HULK should all be made many more times in basic & elite form, in different outfits & eras & specific memorable moments... Like how bad do you want jean shorts Stonecold with Cloth WHAT shirt or Bret with a 94 jacket with shoulder pads & tassels pink on black ! or HBK in one of his tremendous & elaborate entrance gear: chaps, wilfe chains & mirrors top!! Plus the man who gave a young HBK that advice to constantly get new gear: THE MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE OOO YEA.. REST IN PEACE MACH... so who agrees? disagrees, and why? obviously i might have missed some few good men like Farooq, but i purposely left AHMED JOHNSON outta here!!! Discuss.. excited to hear wat u guys think, if u can show a pic thanks.. ps. sorry to "attempt to take over" this new gen thread, no disrespect intended, just thought it was perfect spot pms; and BOBBY THE BRAIN HEENAN darnnit
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 20:08:26 GMT -5
lol id pass on new gen new hart foundation anvil too... I just want anvil in pink and black.... so golden era want I suppose...
I knew it was New Gen... Just been a hell of a long week... soooo tired...
There are still at least 10-20 Golden Era wants I have....
New Gen I guess Just Razor, Gonzalez and Sid and A new HBK and Savage.... Flair? does he count for WWF New Gen... ? or was he at the end of the golden era
I have two shelf displays that consists of all 89 - 90 wwf wrestlers... and Kamala, Sheik, Bam Bam and Shango.... they all seem really out of place now...
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Post by POWERSOFPAIN83 on Oct 3, 2013 20:27:15 GMT -5
would like to see the following made:
adam bomb crush evil crush steiner brothers 1-2-3 kid (blue attire) bret hart(rr '94 or ss'94) owen hart(any) ultimate warrior(comic book attire) diesel(mullet hair-do) shawn michaels(summer slam '95) british bulldog(rr'95) headshrinkers mabel earthquake typhoon nasty boys doink ludvig borga(I know, I know, not everyones must have but it would be a cool figure i think)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 23:13:00 GMT -5
So with the announcement of an upcoming Lex Luger, Which I assume will be U.S.A Lex... Who are we missing for a good next gen collection? We Have Bam Bam, Bret Hart, HBK, Mankind, Papa Shango, Undertaker, Diesel, Yokozuna and more Who do you think we need? If I were to start a New gen collection I would Want Razor Ramon Psycho Sid Giant Gonzalez Tatanka Anvil Adam Bomb Bulldog Crush L.O.D I don't count bam bam as wwe - he's with my wcw guys. Fits better with his tag partner ddp
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 23:20:11 GMT -5
New Generation figures definitely need 123 Kid, Doink, Razor, blueblood HHH, early Goldust, Sid, and Mabel. Alundra Blayze and Owen Hart would be nice, but they're not happening. I never considered Papa Shango part of the New Generation. To me, he was in the tail end of the era that came before it. i think Papa Shango's New Gen. what timeframe New Gen is seems to vary. WWE says 94-98. Wiki says 93-96. In my mind New Gen is from when Bret Hart became WWF Champion fall 1992 to when DX started forming in the summer of 1997 i wanted to say Alundra Blaze earlier...but didn't want to be judged No. Hulkamania goes from 84 when hogan wins the belt to '93 King of the Ring when yoko beats him...New Generation is after that (where Raw is done in bingo halls and nobody watches as bret hart defends his title against papa shango and skinner lol...) New Generation almost sunk the company... That;s why Bret can blah blah blah the best there is...blah blah blah all he wants...he didn't do anything for business. Neither did hbk. Vince had to shove him down peoples throats much like he did miz until he got over with the 'childhood dream' angle. Remember his pulling down his pants and showing his ass off after a match and Mr. Perfect giving him crap on air about it. That was real, Mr. P was disgusted and NO ONE wanted to see him do that crap. Max Moon? Bastian Booger? Mantuar? Hakushi? Man Mountain Rock? Fatu 'the homeboy'? hahahaha....yuck was that period bad. Again why I laugh at diesel - he had along reign but so what...didn't mean he was any good. Just meant he was the top turd in a pile s**t... I only want the 93 and on leftover figs like papa shango, irs, owen, Razor, doink, crush, etc...the rest are all bums
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 23:23:36 GMT -5
Vince still often mentioned " new generation" in 1996.. but imo with goldust, pillman, birth of stonecold, and heels vs heels, 1996 saw the small hints of attitude.. but i feel the attitude era " Officially" began two weeks after the montreal screwjob... when vince gave the BREAKING KAYFABE pre-raw promo... BUT obviously certain incidents like pillman GUNPOINT, or harts vs usa & austin , hbk & hhh & chyna & rude forming dx starting the beginning of attitude.. now onto the topic @ Hand.. the New Generation.. two names come to mind first and foremost.. Bret The Hitman Hart The Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels obviously bret came in to the E in 1985, hbk in 88.. but the enw gen era, we got bret's rsc fig from it along with hbk's basic flashback.. but soo many more outfits from both would rep the new gen era i just dont consider 1992 new gen yet, even tho i want a 92 heel hbk badd.... imo new gen began in late 93 once hulk was gone for good. Bret, Shawn, Diesel, Undertaker (purple, Yokozuna, Razor Ramon, 123 kid (prefer X-pac), Sycho SID, Owen Hart, Davey Boy with long tights long hair ( would prefer a 92 bulldog).... smoking gunns ( dont want em!) i could go on and on let me just say imo for the NEW GENERATION ERA, we got a decent amount of top card workers, macho man spent most of it announcing with some work obviously we want his neon cowboy gear BADD MATTEL.. BADD!!!! my point is i feel most of the roster would never sell.. ratings were LOW, houses were small, the mid card - savio, justin the hawk bradshaw!, Flash Funk, Adam bomd... bla bla waste of time.. give us more HBK & BRET & MACHO and we need a SID. now on to more important topic, forget which generation..the bottom line is DEAR MATTEL the following superstars must be made and will sell.. i thought this was a good thread to display the most important flashbacks that we need still, but it should go without saying that BRET HART, HBK, UNDERTAKER, MACHO MAN, STONECOLD, ULTIMATE WARRIOR, ROCK & 1 day HULK should all be made many more times in basic & elite form, in different outfits & eras & specific memorable moments... Like how bad do you want jean shorts Stonecold with Cloth WHAT shirt or Bret with a 94 jacket with shoulder pads & tassels pink on black ! or HBK in one of his tremendous & elaborate entrance gear: chaps, wilfe chains & mirrors top!! Plus the man who gave a young HBK that advice to constantly get new gear: THE MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE OOO YEA.. REST IN PEACE MACH... so who agrees? disagrees, and why? obviously i might have missed some few good men like Farooq, but i purposely left AHMED JOHNSON outta here!!! Discuss.. excited to hear wat u guys think, if u can show a pic thanks.. ps. sorry to "attempt to take over" this new gen thread, no disrespect intended, just thought it was perfect spot pms; and BOBBY THE BRAIN HEENAN darnnit you forgot JYD, and Studd. I want brutai, angle and Anvil most out of your list... They totally f'd up with legends. Had they done their homework and made better outfits/gimmicks for them the lines would have sold WAY better... Plus starting a legends line WITHOUT Hulk Hogan in it is almost doom from the get go. But where they REALLY f'd up, was not having a build a figure. At what 6 waves? We could have had Slick, Heenan, Hart, Blassie, Fuji & Mean Gene...
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Post by inkboy83 on Oct 3, 2013 23:39:08 GMT -5
Must haves.... USA Lex Luger Tatanka Doink Razor Ramon Synchro Side Guys that we most likely won't get but would be great.... Aldo Montoya Adam Bomb
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Post by champofakind on Oct 4, 2013 0:15:13 GMT -5
Must haves for new gen era all elite styled of course the big three for me:
Razor Ramon Goldust Ahmed Johnson
But of course I'll take more HBKs and 123 Kid. I know we are getting X pac which is my biggest want now..since e23 Taker and e19 HBK have came.
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Post by MachoManiac on Oct 4, 2013 2:56:25 GMT -5
i would buy sum1 dinner # Mortons if Mattel Design Team confirms an Ahmed Johnson..the pearl river powerhouse is a joke within the walls of titan tower!!.. just buy ezekial and grab extra jakks knee pads for his quad pads!!!
gee hope that didnt sound racist!.. just need a Brother Brutus wayy before the botching juiced up dope addict (imo) turned intercontinentl champ..... although how funny was it when GOLDUST attempted CPR on AHMED!!!!! or his feud against FAROOQ and the NATION OF DOMINATION.. " your goin down" "err gone dun" " err gum don"
maybe ypu r rite champofakind... he was first used to replace SID, who replaced Warrior to team with HBK & sum1 else against Camp cornette Vader, Bulldog & owen... or was yoko in there..?
Yea i can recall those 2 memories of Ahmed, i dont disrespect your WANT.. i can understand it, but i just dont want to buy him..
I would love another GOLDUST with an ic belt with gold strap, and either debut look & robe or his 2nd slightly more detailed outfit...
RAZOR RAMON is a must, and i see it being announced within 6 months... with Hunter in so mucvh power, and HALL staying clean ( pray for him brothers ).. he deserves atleast a small legends deal like a tee shirt on WWESHOP.COM , licensing for figures and video games and come in to stamford to do interviews for future use on either a DVD on nWo, wcw, wwf 90's or awa or maybe his career which was almost amazing....
do u guys see an ahmed?..
obvously not 1 sane person is anti- scott hall.. but it would be a brutal fight for his first gear, silly mattel team that made Legends wave 1-3 would prob have awa hall with his magnum PA stache!! ( yes PA kids)
my friend was a utility worker in the 80's for wwf, heavy on indies , mainly used for the B or C shows to job to orton or slaughter or snuka... had about 15 tv job matches in 1985, 86.... when he saw my small collection of Legends in my office.. he said why would they make a snuka like that when the trunks & barefoot captured the iconic image whom leaped off the 15 foot high steel cage onto a bloody don muraco in madison square garden ( a moment frozen in the annals of time in TITAN LAND!)
anyway..
ahmed - a purchase Yes or No
( hope u can tell this topic is important to me)
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Oct 4, 2013 3:11:48 GMT -5
I never considered Papa Shango part of the New Generation. To me, he was in the tail end of the era that came before it. Same. I don't remember him doing anything after putting a spell on Warrior, really. I definitely wouldn't put him in that Bret, Luger, Yoko, Razor, Doink bracket. I think he was gone by the time Lex and Doink even had their debut matches, pretty much. They totally f'd up with legends. Had they done their homework and made better outfits/gimmicks for them the lines would have sold WAY better... Plus starting a legends line WITHOUT Hulk Hogan in it is almost doom from the get go. But where they REALLY f'd up, was not having a build a figure. At what 6 waves? We could have had Slick, Heenan, Hart, Blassie, Fuji & Mean Gene... Adding Build a Figure parts would have made the Legends even more expensive and/or meant less accessories. They would have sunk even faster.
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Post by SGguy on Oct 4, 2013 5:22:14 GMT -5
Bret Hart (Pink & Black Exclusive) ✓ Yokozuna (E15) ✓ Diesel (E16) ✓ Mankind (Mail Away Exclusive) ✓ Undertaker (E23) ✓ Bam Bam Bigelow (Legends) ✓
I'm still waiting for Razor Ramon and Sycho Sid to be made >_< Other figures for New Gen Era: Lex Luger (Soon) Doink 123 Kid Owen Hart (Never gonna happen) Tatanka I.R.S Mable Vader (in WWF Attire) Wildman Marc Mero Savio Vega Ahmed Johnson The Godwinns Build a Figure: Gorilla Monsoon / Raw Announcer Vince Mcmahon or Mr Perfect
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 6:23:36 GMT -5
To me, the New Gen started the day Bret won the title. Shawn was on his way up, Tatanka, Crush, Doink, Razor and dozens of other guys started appearing and a lot of the older guys like Flair, Hogan, Nasty Boys, Boss Man, Hacksaw, Warrior and Jake left. The double heel/face turn of Bret and Austin is what signified the end of the New Gen. I never considered Papa Shango part of the New Generation. To me, he was in the tail end of the era that came before it. Same. I don't remember him doing anything after putting a spell on Warrior, really. I definitely wouldn't put him in that Bret, Luger, Yoko, Razor, Doink bracket. I think he was gone by the time Lex and Doink even had their debut matches, pretty much. They totally f'd up with legends. Had they done their homework and made better outfits/gimmicks for them the lines would have sold WAY better... Plus starting a legends line WITHOUT Hulk Hogan in it is almost doom from the get go. But where they REALLY f'd up, was not having a build a figure. At what 6 waves? We could have had Slick, Heenan, Hart, Blassie, Fuji & Mean Gene... Adding Build a Figure parts would have made the Legends even more expensive and/or meant less accessories. They would have sunk even faster. Shango was in the 93 rumble. Had a title shot against Bret on SNME in late 92 and was in a qualifying match for the 93 KOTR. He wasn't overly exposed but he was certainly there for the very beginning of the New Gen.
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Post by The Madness on Oct 4, 2013 9:53:06 GMT -5
Shango was in the 93 rumble. Had a title shot against Bret on SNME in late 92 and was in a qualifying match for the 93 KOTR. He wasn't overly exposed but he was certainly there for the very beginning of the New Gen. That's crazy. I was watching religiously back then, but I don't remember Papa Shango staying around that long for the life of me.
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Post by terraryzing on Oct 4, 2013 11:03:15 GMT -5
So with the announcement of an upcoming Lex Luger, Which I assume will be U.S.A Lex... Who are we missing for a good next gen collection? We Have Bam Bam, Bret Hart, HBK, Mankind, Papa Shango, Undertaker, Diesel, Yokozuna and more Who do you think we need? If I were to start a New gen collection I would Want Razor Ramon Psycho Sid Giant Gonzalez Tatanka Anvil Adam Bomb Bulldog Crush L.O.D ALl except Giant Gonzalez, I would love to add to my collection. I wouldn't want them to waste a spot for another British Bulldog figure, give us some new blood... a 1-2-3 kid in blue, like his hasbro figure, is a MUST. btw, POST #6000!!!
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Post by MachoManiac on Oct 4, 2013 16:42:38 GMT -5
shango was in the new gen as " KAMA THE SUPREME FIGHTING MACHINE ".. alongside dibiase and his goons like volkoff rocking his cents suit!!! how terrible most of the " new generation" era was
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Post by East Coast on Oct 4, 2013 18:53:06 GMT -5
To me, the New Gen started the day Bret won the title. Shawn was on his way up, Tatanka, Crush, Doink, Razor and dozens of other guys started appearing and a lot of the older guys like Flair, Hogan, Nasty Boys, Boss Man, Hacksaw, Warrior and Jake left. The double heel/face turn of Bret and Austin is what signified the end of the New Gen. we agree on this. Once they put the strap on Bret.....that changed everything. Flair and Hogan got the boot. Macho was just doing commentary. WHen i started watching WWF in 86......I would've never imagined that half of the Hart Foundation and half of The Rockers, were the future of the business. If u think about it Bret Hart really defined 2 eras of wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2013 5:04:54 GMT -5
shango was in the new gen as " KAMA THE SUPREME FIGHTING MACHINE ".. alongside dibiase and his goons like volkoff rocking his cents suit!!! how terrible most of the " new generation" era was Most of the best matches of all time were put on during the new generation. To me, the New Gen started the day Bret won the title. Shawn was on his way up, Tatanka, Crush, Doink, Razor and dozens of other guys started appearing and a lot of the older guys like Flair, Hogan, Nasty Boys, Boss Man, Hacksaw, Warrior and Jake left. The double heel/face turn of Bret and Austin is what signified the end of the New Gen. we agree on this. Once they put the strap on Bret.....that changed everything. Flair and Hogan got the boot. Macho was just doing commentary. WHen i started watching WWF in 86......I would've never imagined that half of the Hart Foundation and half of The Rockers, were the future of the business. If u think about it Bret Hart really defined 2 eras of wrestling. Absolutely.
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