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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 9:58:40 GMT -5
There's a rumour Deathstroke cant return? That's a bummer......is this because of his rumoured involvement in the Suicide Squad movie? IF it is? It means DC/WB still have that same mentality that's caused SO MUCH counter productivity in the past. IF its what I speculated on that is. Thats the reason. It baffles me beyond belief that WB and DC can't see why Marvel films and TV have been so successful. I wouldnt say Marvel tv has been so successful. Outside of Daredevil, which doesnt even air on traditional tv, Marvel tv has been fairly bad. AOS has improved, but still is no where near DC tv. Me too boss..... what makes it worse is that DC/WB had this advantage for SO EFFIN LONG.....and did nothing with it. Marvel Studios have been on the go in cinemas for 7 years and we have got 11 blockbuster movies with another due this year 3 really well received TV shows so far.....with 3 more to come and a Netflix exclusive movie. Boggles the mind. It brings me back to Bruce Timm, The Batman crew and the Smallville guys talking about how difficult they were about character inclusion. yet you still have folks out there who believe Gotham will jump forward 6-8 years for season 2 and that Bruce will be Batman and we will have Joker etc. No way is it in DC/WBs corporate mentality to be letting their boy(Batman) be on Fox.....NO WAY. Ditto for Joker. I assume Arrow/Flash arent even allowed mention Gotham are they? Its crazy. There has been Wayne Enterprises logos that have appeared on Arrow. But has Gotham actually been mentioned man? I ask genuinely because I don't know.....I don't think it has but you probably know for sure.
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Post by T R W on Apr 28, 2015 10:04:15 GMT -5
I'd say that Agents of Shield started rocky, but it has gotten better since the Winter Solider fallout. I'd rank AoS below season 1 and 2 of Arrow and Flash, but above season 3 of Arrow so far.
And the fact that they don't want to mention or use the tv Flash and Arrow in movies and plan to use a different Flash just shows that they still don't get it. Constantly making characters be off limits to the tv shows will just continue to cripple them. Not to mention having multiple Gotham universes running at the same time. And don't get me started on little kid Bruce palling around with little kid Catwoman. I want nothing more than DC and WB to get their act together but it's hard to believe that they ever will. I'll enjoy Flash and Arrow for what they are, but I will mourn what they could be.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 10:12:27 GMT -5
I'd say that Agents of Shield started rocky, but it has gotten better since the Winter Solider fallout. I'd rank AoS below season 1 and 2 of Arrow and Flash, but above season 3 of Arrow so far. And the fact that they don't want to mention or use the tv Flash and Arrow in movies and plan to use a different Flash just shows that they still don't get it. Constantly making characters be off limits to the tv shows will just continue to cripple them. Not to mention having multiple Gotham universes running at the same time. And don't get me started on little kid Bruce palling around with little kid Catwoman. I want nothing more than DC and WB to get their act together but it's hard to believe that they ever will. I'll enjoy Flash and Arrow for what they are, but I will mourn what they could be. Great post.....agreed 100%. Arrow season 3 has lost steam IMO. Diggle needs to go....really soon. Kill him off while his character still means something.
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Post by marino13 on Apr 28, 2015 11:11:25 GMT -5
I'm still not crazy about Atom being a bootleg Iron Man, but I'm hoping his abilities will evolve into what we know. I agree....but anything that keeps Brandon Routh on my screen is a win. Loved him in Superman Returns and love him more as Palmer. I loved Routh as Superman. Since they keep the TV and new movies separate, I wish he was just playing Superman on Arrow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 12:12:34 GMT -5
For the life of me I genuinely cant understand why WB doesn't go balls out and give us a Batman TV show from Berlanti and co on the CW.
They are so paranoid about him its f*cking unreal.
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Apr 28, 2015 13:15:51 GMT -5
Sounds like Diggle will be getting a costumed, which is awesome! As well as we should soon be seeing Vibe on Flash!!!! Cisco 'bout to TURNT UP!
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Post by IRS on Apr 28, 2015 15:43:06 GMT -5
For the life of me I genuinely cant understand why WB doesn't go balls out and give us a Batman TV show from Berlanti and co on the CW. They are so paranoid about him its f*cking unreal. It's almost like they look at what Marvel is doing, and say "how can we do the exact opposite". The endless stream of goddamn restrictions they put on the TV universe is ing terrible. We couldn't get Blue Beetle. We can't have Bronze Tiger anymore. We may have lost Deathstroke and Boomerang. Next thing you know, they'll block Reverse Flash and Grodd.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 28, 2015 17:19:33 GMT -5
Thats the reason. I wouldnt say Marvel tv has been so successful. Outside of Daredevil, which doesnt even air on traditional tv, Marvel tv has been fairly bad. AOS has improved, but still is no where near DC tv. There has been Wayne Enterprises logos that have appeared on Arrow. But has Gotham actually been mentioned man? I ask genuinely because I don't know.....I don't think it has but you probably know for sure. I assume you mean Gotham as in the show and not just the city. Gotham City has been mentioned. Characters in Gotham have not been. I have to believe the time lines are VERY different for these 2 shows. I'd say that Agents of Shield started rocky, but it has gotten better since the Winter Solider fallout. I'd rank AoS below season 1 and 2 of Arrow and Flash, but above season 3 of Arrow so far. And the fact that they don't want to mention or use the tv Flash and Arrow in movies and plan to use a different Flash just shows that they still don't get it. Constantly making characters be off limits to the tv shows will just continue to cripple them. Not to mention having multiple Gotham universes running at the same time. And don't get me started on little kid Bruce palling around with little kid Catwoman. I want nothing more than DC and WB to get their act together but it's hard to believe that they ever will. I'll enjoy Flash and Arrow for what they are, but I will mourn what they could be. I have to disagree with you on AoS vs. Arrow season 3. I love Arrow season 3. AoS is better, but I only have it barely tolerable at this point from being horridly wretched. Its really picked up the last few weeks, but the first 5 or so episodes were still very bad. I do agree with you on DC and how they dont get it. Fact is DC doesnt need big name actors to portray the super heroes. What they need is consistency and a loyal fan base. Flash/Arrow have that. The casting for characters like Deadshot and Deathstroke have been perfect. Yes, I would rather have Michael Rowe as Deadshot over Will Smith....I said it. And Manu Bennett as Deathstroke is better than the, I believe already shot down rumor, of Tom Hardy. To me the DC Universe exists ONLY on CW. Gotham, Sucide Squad Movie, Batman/Superman....no thanks. Cheap knockoffs of the greatness that CW airs. I'd say that Agents of Shield started rocky, but it has gotten better since the Winter Solider fallout. I'd rank AoS below season 1 and 2 of Arrow and Flash, but above season 3 of Arrow so far. And the fact that they don't want to mention or use the tv Flash and Arrow in movies and plan to use a different Flash just shows that they still don't get it. Constantly making characters be off limits to the tv shows will just continue to cripple them. Not to mention having multiple Gotham universes running at the same time. And don't get me started on little kid Bruce palling around with little kid Catwoman. I want nothing more than DC and WB to get their act together but it's hard to believe that they ever will. I'll enjoy Flash and Arrow for what they are, but I will mourn what they could be. Great post.....agreed 100%. Arrow season 3 has lost steam IMO. Diggle needs to go....really soon. Kill him off while his character still means something. WHAT?! Why kill Diggle? I agree....but anything that keeps Brandon Routh on my screen is a win. Loved him in Superman Returns and love him more as Palmer. I loved Routh as Superman. Since they keep the TV and new movies separate, I wish he was just playing Superman on Arrow. Arrow tries and avoid super powers on their show. I would love to see Routh as Superman again....but I will settle on him just being on tv. His quirkyness is greatness.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 23:25:15 GMT -5
But has Gotham actually been mentioned man? I ask genuinely because I don't know.....I don't think it has but you probably know for sure. I assume you mean Gotham as in the show and not just the city. Gotham City has been mentioned. Characters in Gotham have not been. I have to believe the time lines are VERY different for these 2 shows. I'd say that Agents of Shield started rocky, but it has gotten better since the Winter Solider fallout. I'd rank AoS below season 1 and 2 of Arrow and Flash, but above season 3 of Arrow so far. And the fact that they don't want to mention or use the tv Flash and Arrow in movies and plan to use a different Flash just shows that they still don't get it. Constantly making characters be off limits to the tv shows will just continue to cripple them. Not to mention having multiple Gotham universes running at the same time. And don't get me started on little kid Bruce palling around with little kid Catwoman. I want nothing more than DC and WB to get their act together but it's hard to believe that they ever will. I'll enjoy Flash and Arrow for what they are, but I will mourn what they could be. I have to disagree with you on AoS vs. Arrow season 3. I love Arrow season 3. AoS is better, but I only have it barely tolerable at this point from being horridly wretched. Its really picked up the last few weeks, but the first 5 or so episodes were still very bad. I do agree with you on DC and how they dont get it. Fact is DC doesnt need big name actors to portray the super heroes. What they need is consistency and a loyal fan base. Flash/Arrow have that. The casting for characters like Deadshot and Deathstroke have been perfect. Yes, I would rather have Michael Rowe as Deadshot over Will Smith....I said it. And Manu Bennett as Deathstroke is better than the, I believe already shot down rumor, of Tom Hardy. To me the DC Universe exists ONLY on CW. Gotham, Sucide Squad Movie, Batman/Superman....no thanks. Cheap knockoffs of the greatness that CW airs. Great post.....agreed 100%. Arrow season 3 has lost steam IMO. Diggle needs to go....really soon. Kill him off while his character still means something. WHAT?! Why kill Diggle? I loved Routh as Superman. Since they keep the TV and new movies separate, I wish he was just playing Superman on Arrow. Arrow tries and avoid super powers on their show. I would love to see Routh as Superman again....but I will settle on him just being on tv. His quirkyness is greatness. Lol.. No I was not talking about Gotham the show. why on Earth would I be? That's hardly anything to do with it being on a different network. I can't remember Gotham City being mentioned.....but I will take your word for it because you know your stuff regarding this show Diggle has outlived his usefulness and his character has been redundant for ages. Diggle & his irritating wife need to go asap.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 7:21:03 GMT -5
That Flash episode though!! WOW!
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 29, 2015 8:03:12 GMT -5
I assume you mean Gotham as in the show and not just the city. Gotham City has been mentioned. Characters in Gotham have not been. I have to believe the time lines are VERY different for these 2 shows. I have to disagree with you on AoS vs. Arrow season 3. I love Arrow season 3. AoS is better, but I only have it barely tolerable at this point from being horridly wretched. Its really picked up the last few weeks, but the first 5 or so episodes were still very bad. I do agree with you on DC and how they dont get it. Fact is DC doesnt need big name actors to portray the super heroes. What they need is consistency and a loyal fan base. Flash/Arrow have that. The casting for characters like Deadshot and Deathstroke have been perfect. Yes, I would rather have Michael Rowe as Deadshot over Will Smith....I said it. And Manu Bennett as Deathstroke is better than the, I believe already shot down rumor, of Tom Hardy. To me the DC Universe exists ONLY on CW. Gotham, Sucide Squad Movie, Batman/Superman....no thanks. Cheap knockoffs of the greatness that CW airs. WHAT?! Why kill Diggle? Arrow tries and avoid super powers on their show. I would love to see Routh as Superman again....but I will settle on him just being on tv. His quirkyness is greatness. Lol.. No I was not talking about Gotham the show. why on Earth would I be? That's hardly anything to do with it being on a different network. I can't remember Gotham City being mentioned.....but I will take your word for it because you know your stuff regarding this show Diggle has outlived his usefulness and his character has been redundant for ages. Diggle & his irritating wife need to go asap. I love Diggle. He acts not only as a confidant for Oliver but as a moral conscience for Oliver. I NEVER want Diggle dead.
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 29, 2015 9:34:53 GMT -5
Flash was incredible last night, particularly the opening scene. It made all the Iris and Eddie stuff hilarious, I suppose in a bit of a twisted way.
It's amazing to me how candid and transparent that the show has been about Wells. Like we've know, virtually, the entire time he was the bad guy and we're just getting more-and-more of that backstory. To have him be one step ahead should have been obvious but I was still like "damn!" They have just really nailed the time travel elements of the story imo. Which, I think that's really impressive given how easy that kind of story is to botch.
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Post by IRS on Apr 29, 2015 11:23:51 GMT -5
Best episode of Flash last night... so far. The scene with them in the vault - fantastic. The Justice League tease - fantastic. Joe's snickering during the Cisco scene - awesome. Wells' swerve - ING AMAZING! Iris finding out on her own - cool.
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Post by MacReady on Apr 29, 2015 12:52:42 GMT -5
Best episode of Flash last night... so far. The scene with them in the vault - fantastic. The Justice League tease - fantastic. Joe's snickering during the Cisco scene - awesome. Wells' swerve - ING AMAZING! Iris finding out on her own - cool.I kind of have the feeling that Barry will pull the "two places at one time" thing that Wells did, to throw Iris off. I don't feel like we need EVERY character in on on the loop of who he is THIS early on in the series.
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Post by IRS on Apr 29, 2015 13:00:57 GMT -5
Best episode of Flash last night... so far. The scene with them in the vault - fantastic. The Justice League tease - fantastic. Joe's snickering during the Cisco scene - awesome. Wells' swerve - ING AMAZING! Iris finding out on her own - cool.I kind of have the feeling that Barry will pull the "two places at one time" thing that Wells did, to throw Iris off. I don't feel like we need EVERY character in on on the loop of who he is THIS early on in the series. Eh, I'd kinda rather they get it out in the open early with her. Especially with how annoying she's been. Plus, I have a feeling there'll be one less member of Team Speedster after this season...
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Apr 29, 2015 18:34:29 GMT -5
I hope they don't kill Nyssa off tonight. I like her character way too much.
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 30, 2015 7:56:27 GMT -5
Yeah, that whole marry my daughter thing was a weird turn I wasn't expecting. I was more or less expecting Ollie to just stab Ra's instead of killing Nyssa.
Seeing a bit of full-on Speedy at the end of the episode was pretty nice.
I'm assuming this Al Sah-Him deal runs out at the end of the next episode and we see Ra's and Ollie square off again. You know, now that Ra's has trained Oliver to be a super ninja and ultimately exposed any weakness in swordplay he may have to our "brainwashed" hero.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 30, 2015 9:23:58 GMT -5
Yeah, that whole marry my daughter thing was a weird turn I wasn't expecting. I was more or less expecting Ollie to just stab Ra's instead of killing Nyssa. Seeing a bit of full-on Speedy at the end of the episode was pretty nice. I'm assuming this Al Sah-Him deal runs out at the end of the next episode and we see Ra's and Ollie square off again. You know, now that Ra's has trained Oliver to be a super ninja and ultimately exposed any weakness in swordplay he may have to our "brainwashed" hero. I dont see it. Honestly with like 2 episodes left, I think Al Sa Him is going to continue into season 4 and we are NOT getting Oliver Queen back for a bit. The big climatic battle is gonna be Team Arrow minus Oliver vs. The League. I was not a big fan of last night's episode. It had some good plot points and advanced the story, however I am just not liking Oliver as the next Ras for obvious reasons. I understand why he has chosen this path and it made a lot of sense. The episodes leading up to this also have been excellent. But either my utter disdain for Al Sa Him or the execution of the episode itself has really irked me.
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Post by Self-Savior on Apr 30, 2015 10:17:40 GMT -5
Damn, The Flash was pretty awesome as hell this week. I'm definitely looking forward to Grodd next week. I liked it a lot better than Arrow.
I'm not a fan of this Al Sa-Him bullcrapand have found myself not that interested in the whole League of Assassins story this season.
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Post by IRS on Apr 30, 2015 11:31:28 GMT -5
So... we're all feeling the lesbian tension between Laurel & Nyssa, right?
I thought last night's episode was alright, but it didn't blow my pants off. I will say that the whole marrying Nyssa thing surprised me. In the end, I see this being a long con by Ollie, and he ends up taking on Ra's again.
Laurel whipping out the Canary Cry was my favorite part of the whole episode. Thank you, Based Cisco.
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