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Post by The Champ is Here! on May 20, 2015 8:05:37 GMT -5
Can it be season 2 for flash already?
If eobard doesnt exist, nora is alive right? But also, no particle accelerator? So no flash? Makes my head hurt
Loved the Jay hat flying out, so cool
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Post by T R W on May 20, 2015 8:57:06 GMT -5
Loved the finale. I don't think they are going to bring his mom back. That's the problem with time travel plots, is there is always a hole in it. But I am stoked for next season.
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Post by MacReady on May 20, 2015 9:42:31 GMT -5
Can it be season 2 for flash already? If eobard doesnt exist, nora is alive right? But also, no particle accelerator? So no flash? Makes my head hurt Loved the Jay hat flying out, so cool I was literally mentioning this same thing to my brothers' after last nights episode! How will it all work now, since BASICALLY Thawne created Flash (and all the meta humans for that matter). I loved LOVED the finale, but am definitely left with questions!
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Post by Mr. McCluer on May 20, 2015 11:39:16 GMT -5
I feel like Eddie will come back, his seemingly dead body was sucked into the wormhole. I feel like that'll lead to something.
And I feel like it doesn't change anything with what happened with Wells, cause if that was the case Barry would've had no powers the same time Wells vibed out.
Time travel is tricky, and it's also not real so they can do whatever they want with it, because it doesn't exist.
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Post by IRS on May 20, 2015 13:40:33 GMT -5
Supergirl is confirmed to be in the Arrowverse? cant see it lads. First big roadblock is that its on a different channel. Its genuinely difficult to envision crossovers. If it was on CW? then yeah no sweat(cant understand why it isn't) I also don't see how Supergirl will work without constant references to Superman.And how would she stay hidden from him if they go the "he doesn't know about her" route that they seem to be going? Its like having a Robin show and trying not to include Batman....only way worse because its effin Supergirl. Supes not being involved is headache inducing. From what I've seen so far, I believe the Arrow writers or Amell said that Supergirl was indeed in the Arrowverse - I doubt any crossovers will happen, though. From the trailer alone, the show just looks way too... I don't know, girly. Plus, I'm really not a fan of it being on CBS. In the end, I think it ends up being the weakest of the DC shows. I really hope the Teen Titans show comes out awesome, because that's one I really don't want to see screwed up.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 17:33:08 GMT -5
Teen Titans has a better chance of succeeding than Supergirl IMO. Fiona will likely want to give Supergirl a shot so I'll end up seeing it at some point.....LOL.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on May 20, 2015 18:11:12 GMT -5
In the preview they disclosed that Superman knows about her, and sent Jimmy Olsen to help her. And sent her a cape. Which makes it even more frustrating that you know he will never be on the show. But yeah, being on different networks, I don't see how this and the Flash/Arrowverse will ever collide. According to Amell at his Philly Q and A, he says the possibility of a cross over isnt out of the question. He went onto say that he and DC had serious talks concerning Oliver Queen's appearance on an episode of Constantine. Being that DC owns CW....good chance this could happen. My god, Flash had my cry. Such a great finale. Eddie killing himself I always thought would happen, but when it happened I was still shocked. And when he did that and caused the wormhole? Wow. If Eddie is dead, that means Eobard would seize to exist, meaning that Nora was never killed... wow. Can not wait for season 2. Loved the Garrick's helmet and all the nods to Legends of Tomorrow. Also some cool easter eggs for Barry's future, with a quick glimpse of Killer Frost and the Vibe name drops. I felt the same way about Eddie. I felt like he was gonna die, but was still shocked. But I dont think Nora was never killed. Considering the timeline that Barry has returned too, Eobard being erased doesnt change Nora being killed. It only creates a new timeline from here on out....one where Eoboard doesnt exist. Otherwise, The Flash would cease to exist, the particle accelerator would cease to exist, Firestorm would just be Ronnie, etc. I feel like Eddie will come back, his seemingly dead body was sucked into the wormhole. I feel like that'll lead to something. And I feel like it doesn't change anything with what happened with Wells, cause if that was the case Barry would've had no powers the same time Wells vibed out. Time travel is tricky, and it's also not real so they can do whatever they want with it, because it doesn't exist. I feel the same way. Cavanaugh has to return, as he was at Upfronts this year for The Flash presentation. They only bring current cast to the Upfronts. Cosnett was not present, however, as he was last year. The cool thing about the time travel/plot holes.....it opens doors to so many other stories and gives the writers even more freedom to create. Everything can be explained through the use of the time travel for this or that.
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Post by Jamie on May 21, 2015 2:51:57 GMT -5
My god, Flash had my cry. Such a great finale. Eddie killing himself I always thought would happen, but when it happened I was still shocked. And when he did that and caused the wormhole? Wow. If Eddie is dead, that means Eobard would seize to exist, meaning that Nora was never killed... wow. Can not wait for season 2. Loved the Garrick's helmet and all the nods to Legends of Tomorrow. Also some cool easter eggs for Barry's future, with a quick glimpse of Killer Frost and the Vibe name drops. I felt the same way about Eddie. I felt like he was gonna die, but was still shocked. But I dont think Nora was never killed. Considering the timeline that Barry has returned too, Eobard being erased doesnt change Nora being killed. It only creates a new timeline from here on out....one where Eoboard doesnt exist. Otherwise, The Flash would cease to exist, the particle accelerator would cease to exist, Firestorm would just be Ronnie, etc. Yeah, I think Nora was still killed. My guess is that the wormhole is an alternate reality and was caused by the time stream trying to correct itself.
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Post by Weemanv1 on May 21, 2015 14:57:55 GMT -5
So for those wondering about how the timeline might or might not change, I'd say at the very least that the singularity started up again because the timelines have to change back forcefully with Eobard never existing and creating a paradox. I think Barry will obviously stop the reset from happening, but I have no idea the details of it. Whenever I think too hard about the Flash my head starts to hurt.
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Post by hbkjason on May 22, 2015 3:23:49 GMT -5
Do you think there is any chance of them doing Flashpoint? That is easily one of my favourite books of the past ten years or so. I know using Batmant and Joker would be out of the question, but what about using Green Arrow and Deathstroke in their place I think that would work.
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Post by IRS on May 22, 2015 9:01:45 GMT -5
Do you think there is any chance of them doing Flashpoint? That is easily one of my favourite books of the past ten years or so. I know using Batmant and Joker would be out of the question, but what about using Green Arrow and Deathstroke in their place I think that would work. It's possible... but I'd lean closer towards them not doing it. Also, DC is supposedly going to block Deathstroke from appearing in the TV universe.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on May 22, 2015 12:19:50 GMT -5
Do you think there is any chance of them doing Flashpoint? That is easily one of my favourite books of the past ten years or so. I know using Batmant and Joker would be out of the question, but what about using Green Arrow and Deathstroke in their place I think that would work. It's possible... but I'd lean closer towards them not doing it. Also, DC is supposedly going to block Deathstroke from appearing in the TV universe. Which is a horrible choice. Manu Bennett was the perfect Deathstroke
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Post by IRS on May 22, 2015 12:58:59 GMT -5
It's possible... but I'd lean closer towards them not doing it. Also, DC is supposedly going to block Deathstroke from appearing in the TV universe. Which is a horrible choice. Manu Bennett was the perfect Deathstroke Gotta love DC's restrictions.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on May 22, 2015 22:41:55 GMT -5
Deathstroke is officially off the table for Arrow right now, along with The Suicide Squad.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on May 23, 2015 15:41:36 GMT -5
Deathstroke is officially off the table for Arrow right now, along with The Suicide Squad. See, I understand not wanting the Suicide Squad having two versions on the big and small screens. Once the movie is out n' done with, then reintroduce the Suicide Squad to the small screen. Sure, whatever, that's fine. But as far as I'm aware, Deathstroke isn't even in this movie. So what the , DC? Where'd you get confirmation on that, anyway? Not that I'm calling bullcrapbut I'm out of the loop. This thread is my news source.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on May 23, 2015 16:57:32 GMT -5
Deathstroke is officially off the table for Arrow right now, along with The Suicide Squad. See, I understand not wanting the Suicide Squad having two versions on the big and small screens. Once the movie is out n' done with, then reintroduce the Suicide Squad to the small screen. Sure, whatever, that's fine. But as far as I'm aware, Deathstroke isn't even in this movie. So what the , DC? Where'd you get confirmation on that, anyway? Not that I'm calling bullcrap but I'm out of the loop. This thread is my news source. Stephen Amell himself. But they ARE trying to work something out for Deathstroke, as like you said, he isnt in Suicide Squad. He said currently Deathstroke and Suicide Squad are off the table for the Arrowverse. We will see more about the HIVE and also ARGUS. Damien Darhk will be the big villian for Season 4. Also for the first time, he addressed the character as Green Arrow. When questioned about the use of this name....Amell blew it off with a whoops and a smile. He loves to give spoilers out. I know Season 4 is supposed to dive more into Diggle's history and they will reveal who and why his brother Andy died. Amell also confirmed that Diggle will get a costume of some sort for Season 4. And there is a good chance we will see the son of Deathstroke in Season 4.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on May 23, 2015 17:10:56 GMT -5
The information for season 4 sounds great n' all, but how exactly are they going to play off Diggle's brother's assassination when they can't even use Deadshot anymore? Sounds like that might be contrived as hell.
But I do think we're going to see a far more traditional Green Arrow next season. I love the darker themes we've had from season 1 onward, but the wise cracking is something Amell does really well n' has a long history of being the characters defining trait.
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Post by JL24FPS on May 23, 2015 17:30:36 GMT -5
I'm curious to see if the events of the finale of Flash will have any impact on Arrow?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 6:26:57 GMT -5
Haven't there been rumors swirling that Deathstroke IS in Suicide Squad? they just haven't revealed it yet?
either way since the TV & movie universes are not connected DC/WBs media division and their veto is bullsh*t again.
it was Bullsh*t on JLU & Smallville.....and its PURE bullsh*t here.
Why are they ok with having Flash as a TV series and separate movie but its isn't ok for Boomerang etc etc to appear on Arrow as well as a movie.
idiocy on every conceivable level.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on May 24, 2015 16:30:56 GMT -5
The information for season 4 sounds great n' all, but how exactly are they going to play off Diggle's brother's assassination when they can't even use Deadshot anymore? Sounds like that might be contrived as hell. But I do think we're going to see a far more traditional Green Arrow next season. I love the darker themes we've had from season 1 onward, but the wise cracking is something Amell does really well n' has a long history of being the characters defining trait. I think its going to be more about explaining it than seeing it. We will NOT see Deadshot in Season 4. Im guessing already used footage would be off the table as well. Not sure though. I'm not even sure if they can or cannot reference him. We see references to other DC heroes like Green Lantern and Batman from time to time. I actually prefer the darker themes. Season 1 remains my favorite season. I think it was a great spin on the character. Coming off a red hot Nolan Batman....this was perfect for a tv adaptation. Haven't there been rumors swirling that Deathstroke IS in Suicide Squad? they just haven't revealed it yet? either way since the TV & movie universes are not connected DC/WBs media division and their veto is bullsh*t again. it was Bullsh*t on JLU & Smallville.....and its PURE bullsh*t here. Why are they ok with having Flash as a TV series and separate movie but its isn't ok for Boomerang etc etc to appear on Arrow as well as a movie. idiocy on every conceivable level. There have been rumors....yes. Just like there have been rumors of Affleck being spotted on set. I hope DC doesnt pull the plug on The Flash b/c of the JL movie. Or maybe the tv show is Barry Allen's Flash, while the movie will be Garrick or West or something. I'm curious to see if the events of the finale of Flash will have any impact on Arrow? IF something major was to change, I could see it. Otherwise, I think it will be business as usual on Arrow.
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