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Post by JokerFC on Jun 6, 2017 14:44:00 GMT -5
Catching up on the Arrow finale. Did Felicity just tell the mother of Oliver's son that she was opposed sending him away? Are you kidding me Felicity, after giving Oliver crap for not telling you about him, you're gonna act like you care. Ugh what I'd give for Slade to run his blade through her and put an end to Olicity. Its time Felicity went. My reasons are twofold. 1) I cant stand the f*cking sight of her character anymore. The crap she gave Ollie over the kid was the icing on the cake. 2) if shes gone her incredibly irritating mother cant be seen again outside of a funeral episode where hopefully she gets killed too. other than that? Arrow finale was first rate. Better than the Flash finale IMHO.
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Post by 6 seasons and a movie on Jun 6, 2017 17:01:15 GMT -5
Felicity is such a bad character now, I regret that I actually liked her in the first season and into the second.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 6, 2017 17:55:58 GMT -5
Catching up on the Arrow finale. Did Felicity just tell the mother of Oliver's son that she was opposed sending him away? Are you kidding me Felicity, after giving Oliver crap for not telling you about him, you're gonna act like you care. Ugh what I'd give for Slade to run his blade through her and put an end to Olicity. Its time Felicity went. My reasons are twofold. 1) I cant stand the f*cking sight of her character anymore. The crap she gave Ollie over the kid was the icing on the cake. 2) if shes gone her incredibly irritating mother cant be seen again outside of a funeral episode where hopefully she gets killed too. other than that? Arrow finale was first rate. Better than the Flash finale IMHO. I really think they need to soft reboot Arrow. Give Felicity a much lesser role as she moves into her role at Palmer Tech full time. Have her replaced with Curtis (which gets him out of he field cause he's terrible and you cant take him serious as a vigilante). Dinah loses her canary abilities and becomes a prominent member of the police dept chief, dect something similar to what Lance was. Lance becomes the new Mayor. Black Siren is rehabilitated into Black Canary. So the team will go back to Arrow, Canary & Dig with slip in every few episodes with Speedy.
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Post by IRS on Jun 6, 2017 20:32:59 GMT -5
Its time Felicity went. My reasons are twofold. 1) I cant stand the f*cking sight of her character anymore. The crap she gave Ollie over the kid was the icing on the cake. 2) if shes gone her incredibly irritating mother cant be seen again outside of a funeral episode where hopefully she gets killed too. other than that? Arrow finale was first rate. Better than the Flash finale IMHO. I really think they need to soft reboot Arrow. Give Felicity a much lesser role as she moves into her role at Palmer Tech full time. Have her replaced with Curtis (which gets him out of he field cause he's terrible and you cant take him serious as a vigilante). Dinah loses her canary abilities and becomes a prominent member of the police dept chief, dect something similar to what Lance was. Lance becomes the new Mayor. Black Siren is rehabilitated into Black Canary. So the team will go back to Arrow, Canary & Dig with slip in every few episodes with Speedy. Personally, I'd eliminate both Curtis & Felicity. Oliver could handle the tech stuff fine on his own in early S1 - why can't he do it again? Also, I think a role for Slade needs to be found. Face or heel, I just want more Deathstroke.
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Post by IRS on Jun 6, 2017 20:35:27 GMT -5
So to recap that season finale... Gordon is normal again. Babs turned into Harley Quinn Fish is dead Lee is gone Butch was clearly born on a Monday Catwoman gonna WHIP some ass (Yeah, I know...) and Batman Begins. 10/10. Forgot that Riddler is now the centerpiece of the soon to be opened Iceberg Lounge.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 6, 2017 20:37:29 GMT -5
I really think they need to soft reboot Arrow. Give Felicity a much lesser role as she moves into her role at Palmer Tech full time. Have her replaced with Curtis (which gets him out of he field cause he's terrible and you cant take him serious as a vigilante). Dinah loses her canary abilities and becomes a prominent member of the police dept chief, dect something similar to what Lance was. Lance becomes the new Mayor. Black Siren is rehabilitated into Black Canary. So the team will go back to Arrow, Canary & Dig with slip in every few episodes with Speedy. Personally, I'd eliminate both Curtis & Felicity. Oliver could handle the tech stuff fine on his own in early S1 - why can't he do it again? Also, I think a role for Slade needs to be found. Face or heel, I just want more Deathstroke. I would be very ok with eliminating Curtis but I figured they were going to have to have a "tech" person somewhere. He's the lesser of two evils. Manu has been pushing hard on Twitter to get CW/Geoff Johns to make a Deathstroke show. I would absolutely love that. Maybe even give him a contract like Merlyn had where he can appear on multiple shows. With the rumors of live action Titans coming to the DC Network, Deathstroke would be perfect for it.
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Post by IRS on Jun 6, 2017 22:07:00 GMT -5
Personally, I'd eliminate both Curtis & Felicity. Oliver could handle the tech stuff fine on his own in early S1 - why can't he do it again? Also, I think a role for Slade needs to be found. Face or heel, I just want more Deathstroke. I would be very ok with eliminating Curtis but I figured they were going to have to have a "tech" person somewhere. He's the lesser of two evils. Manu has been pushing hard on Twitter to get CW/Geoff Johns to make a Deathstroke show. I would absolutely love that. Maybe even give him a contract like Merlyn had where he can appear on multiple shows. With the rumors of live action Titans coming to the DC Network, Deathstroke would be perfect for it. TBH, Curtis is approaching Felicity-levels of annoying for me. His constant, drawn-out, terrible "jokes" and the constant need to mention that he's gay are infuriating. Like, I get it, Berlanti/CW, your shows are diverse. Stop rubbing it in. Actually, I'd ing LOVE if they could get Hartley from Flash to do the tech stuff. Anything to get more Deathstroke is fine by me. Arrow, Flash, LoT, Titans... more Slade, the better.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 7, 2017 8:20:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't object to Curtis in the tech role.....because as Nivro said above He's difficult to take in the vigilante role. I also agree with you IRS the constant referencing to his being gay(just like Alex on Supergirl) is brutal.
CW must have a quota to fill.....its nuts...LOL
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 19, 2017 3:09:02 GMT -5
So Ive been doing a lot of reading and other then just out right killing Felicity, I feel I know of a way to save the show...
We'll start Season 6 out finding out that all the Team Arrow got off the island/safe place before it exploded and they all survived. Once everyone returns to Star City Oliver's mission to "save his city" is completed. With the exception of some petty crime Star City is a safe place to live. Oliver decides to step down as Mayor (Quentin Lance will become Mayor and Rene becomes Deputy Mayor assistant). Felicity stays behind in Star City to run the show while Mr. Terrific, Dinah and Wild Dog become the vigilantes that stop the petty crime. All this is pretty much irrelevant as you will only see bits and pieces of these characters throughout the seasons.
Where the story takes a turn for the positive.....
Oliver feeling his mission to save the city is complete decides to take on a new mission. He wants to rehab Black Siren from her life of crime. John Diggle becomes the new head of ARGUS/ARGUS group stationed in Seattle. Oliver feels that Black Siren's rehab needs to be done where there cant be any Lance family distractions or Oliver having to bail out Team Arrow. Oliver decides to join Diggle in Seattle taking Laurel with them. Of course while in Seattle Oliver discovers that things arent all sunshine & rainbows in Seattle. He discovers Seattle is filled with drugs, petty crime, prostitution rings and a failing economy.
Oliver's first step in trying to improve the city is setting up Q-Core. Q-Core would be a partner to Palmer Tech, financially started/supported by it. Oliver being the CEO would then have a financial backing in the city to help him fight crime. Q-Core would also bring economic relief to the city bringing in new jobs. However Oliver & Canary will have to still have to don the masks to fight crime. While shutting down a prostitution ring, Oliver discovers a young Mia Dearden an orphaned teen forced into prostitution. Oliver takes her under his wing after seeing her survival skills. Oliver then brings in Thea (and possibly Roy) to train Mia to become the new Speedy.
Now as always while there are side stories there has to be a main villain. So the main villain to this story would be the kingpin of the city who is causing all this havoc and destroying Seattle. Again like every season we tap into the Batman rogue gallery (because Arrow has none) and Arrow discovers this man is none other then Roman Sionis (Black Mask) and his false face society.
After a full season 6 of Oliver Queen fighting Roman Sionis & his Society, in the season finale we discover that Sionis wasnt the financial backing for everything going on. Sionis was just a financial consultant to a more powerful man. A man who was locked up & didnt have access to his funds. A man, who was now free once again. A man named Slade Wilson.
Season 7 would start with Oliver realizing that his past isnt behind him after all as Slade wants to keep his promises. The False Face Society is just a junior varsity for Deathstroke's The Society (Secret Society of Super-Villains). Slade Wilson will then throw a plethora of villains at Arrow & Canary. Old faces like Boomerang, Deadshot and possibly even Malcolm Merlyn as well as a lot of new faces such as Chesire, The Cluemaster (Ideally The Riddler but I dont see them going there with him such a big character on Gotham. Cluemaster would be a great poor mans Riddler) and Onomatopoeia. To stay the course Oliver & Canary save the day, fight all the bad guys, again stops Slade Wilson and cleans up Seattle.
In Season 8 Oliver discovers his ex & baby mama Samantha has died. Being the surviving guardian of William he brings him to Seattle with him. Upon Williams arrival Oliver discovers William Connor Clayton's legal name is William Connor Hawke. His mother married shortly after Williams birth and her new husband (whos last name is Hawke) legally adopted him. After Samantha's divorce she never changed William's name just simply reverted back to using her maiden name. Season 8 centers around Oliver creating a relationship with his son. William, now the same age as Thea and Mia were, has taken up an interest in crime fighting after discovering who his father really is. When Mia becomes sick and eventually passes away (HIV+) and the announcement that Laurel is expecting (Robert Queen II), Oliver will need assistance in the field and christens William as the new Red Arrow.
Of course Oliver wont be the only one who's son takes the steps to take up their fathers mantel. As Oliver and William soon find out, Slade Wilson's own son Grant has come to Seattle to revenge his fathers defeat. In a battle that will center around mostly Red Arrow vs The Ravager, William will prove to his father he is worthy of taking the mantle. Seeing Seattle liberated as Star City was and Oliver now a father of a new born son, Oliver decides to finally hang up the hood once and for all. Turning Q-Core over to his son, Oliver & Laurel once again pack up and move to Central City to settle down.
After 8 up and down seasons Arrow is ended with the Oliver & Laurel characters sporadically popping up here and there in The Flash episodes. We never have to see Felicity or Mr. Terrific again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 9:00:09 GMT -5
Not sure how many here follow the Gotham behind-the-scenes photographer on Instagram, but Season 4 started shooting big time yesterday and the photo he posted more or less confirms the rumors of who the main villain of season 4 is gonna be. I am buzzing.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 16, 2017 18:44:12 GMT -5
I honestly had to stop watching Arrow because of Felicity a few seasons ago. She was the female equivalent of Screech and I couldn't accept her with Oliver.
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Post by BSR on Jul 16, 2017 22:01:09 GMT -5
I honestly had to stop watching Arrow because of Felicity a few seasons ago. She was the female equivalent of Screech and I couldn't accept her with Oliver. But mabrinur you didn't tell me you had a son and now I feel like blowing up cities and ing so I can be mad at you more later.
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Post by BSR on Jul 16, 2017 22:01:46 GMT -5
Not sure how many here follow the Gotham behind-the-scenes photographer on Instagram, but Season 4 started shooting big time yesterday and the photo he posted more or less confirms the rumors of who the main villain of season 4 is gonna be. I am buzzing. I thought the finale gave it away or maybe I missed something.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 6:53:56 GMT -5
Not sure how many here follow the Gotham behind-the-scenes photographer on Instagram, but Season 4 started shooting big time yesterday and the photo he posted more or less confirms the rumors of who the main villain of season 4 is gonna be. I am buzzing. I thought the finale gave it away or maybe I missed something. It didn't. We haven't seen S4's main villain since Mid-S1. He appeared in 2 episodes, and he was good'ish then. Now he is full blown villain. And if you mean the very last scene of S3 giving it away, that was only shoehorned in, incase they didn't get renewed. Don't think it will get massive attention through out S4.
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Post by BSR on Jul 17, 2017 8:47:33 GMT -5
I thought the finale gave it away or maybe I missed something. It didn't. We haven't seen S4's main villain since Mid-S1. He appeared in 2 episodes, and he was good'ish then. Now he is full blown villain. And if you mean the very last scene of S3 giving it away, that was only shoehorned in, incase they didn't get renewed. Don't think it will get massive attention through out S4. Oh man. Now I'm excited.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 9:34:07 GMT -5
It didn't. We haven't seen S4's main villain since Mid-S1. He appeared in 2 episodes, and he was good'ish then. Now he is full blown villain. And if you mean the very last scene of S3 giving it away, that was only shoehorned in, incase they didn't get renewed. Don't think it will get massive attention through out S4. Oh man. Now I'm excited. I really only have one problem with it. The Court of Owls storyline at the end of S3 is pretty similar to what they'll likely do with the villain, same type of, I don't know, method? It's the only way I can see it going anyhow.
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Post by BSR on Jul 17, 2017 10:33:25 GMT -5
I really only have one problem with it. The Court of Owls storyline at the end of S3 is pretty similar to what they'll likely do with the villain, same type of, I don't know, method? It's the only way I can see it going anyhow. You're tempting me to read spoilers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 10:51:48 GMT -5
I really only have one problem with it. The Court of Owls storyline at the end of S3 is pretty similar to what they'll likely do with the villain, same type of, I don't know, method? It's the only way I can see it going anyhow. You're tempting me to read spoilers. Eh, don't. But if you look at videos about the S3 finale, they make some good points to what it looks like, the burning train passing by and all that. Basically, theory videos sort of called it a while back, if you have watched any of them.
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Post by BSR on Jul 17, 2017 10:54:14 GMT -5
You're tempting me to read spoilers. Eh, don't. But if you look at videos about the S3 finale, they make some good points to what it looks like, the burning train passing by and all that. Basically, theory videos sort of called it a while back, if you have watched any of them. I haven't seen any of those no.
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Post by IRS on Jul 20, 2017 13:00:17 GMT -5
I can ship it.
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