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Post by Evil Abed on Apr 8, 2018 16:51:25 GMT -5
Arrow has become hard to watch, the show just doesn't make any sense anymore.
Diggle turning on Oliver randomly over a suit was just exactly as they portrayed in the show, it was stupid.
Felicity (as seen in next weeks promo) seems up to her old tricks of getting pissy at Oliver again and walking out even though SHE JUST SAID THIS PAST EPISODE that she wasn't leaving him.
Curtis is a terrible character, idk about how the rest of you feel but his acting feels so forced. Nothing about his character seems genuine. Im really hoping his character eats a bullet before the seasons over.
I dont even know what theyre doing with Laurel 2.0 at this point, every time you think she's becoming a good guy they just keep ripping that rug out from under us. How many times can you tease someone changing their ways only to do something completely opposite before no one cares? At this point I feel like they're trying to make me think that Black Siren has some kind of brain disorder.
As said above Thea might has well have been killed last after last season if they were just gonna have her wake up from a coma halfway through the season just to leave for good.
I feel like part of the show thats devolved over the past few seasons is that everyone seems invincible nowadays. Where as season 1 Oliver always had the chance to play hero saving Thea (pre Lazarus pit nonsense) or Laurel (pre black canary), or Moira, or Tommy, etc... Theres no vulnerability to the show.
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Post by BSR on May 9, 2018 14:04:03 GMT -5
Holy crap arrow is ing awful now.
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Post by marino13 on May 13, 2018 11:37:04 GMT -5
I love Cameron Monaghan's performance as Jerome/Jeremiah. And if they just made a few small tweaks, he'd make a fantastic Joker. Even Mark Hamill has praised how good he is.
But Cameron Monaghan just confirmed that he is NOT allowed to have green hair, and they are NOT allowed to call him Joker. I guess DC/WB want to save the character for the movies to prevent from watering down the character.
Personally, I think they are making a huge mistake. And if they can't pull the trigger on this, it makes me lose interest in the show. Cameron has always been the highlight and IMO, he deserves to be called the Joker.
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Post by Thought Collector on May 13, 2018 15:04:55 GMT -5
I love Cameron Monaghan's performance as Jerome/Jeremiah. And if they just made a few small tweaks, he'd make a fantastic Joker. Even Mark Hamill has praised how good he is. But Cameron Monaghan just confirmed that he is NOT allowed to have green hair, and they are NOT allowed to call him Joker. I guess DC/WB want to save the character for the movies to prevent from watering down the character. Personally, I think they are making a huge mistake. And if they can't pull the trigger on this, it makes me lose interest in the show. Cameron has always been the highlight and IMO, he deserves to be called the Joker. Yeah, this whole DC/Warner Bros. or Fox embargo or whatever it is exactly drives me up a wall. Strike while the iron is hot guys. Let him have the full look, have him named officially The Joker and be officially called that by everyone already. Give him the whole nine yards. If they are holding out for the whole movie version-I mean, Gotham will be probably gone by the time we see any major cinematic role for The Joker again -if it boils down to the whole nonsense of confusing people with two versions at the same time anyhow. I doubt he will be the main villain for the new Matt Reeves Batman film and I don't know when they are exactly going to start work on this whole Joker solo film. And if this is all being done to preserve the Leto Suicide Squad version or the Harley Quinn film it is really the ultimate shame.
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Post by ARUN on May 13, 2018 22:25:10 GMT -5
Gotham renewed for Season 5!
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Post by Nivro™ on May 13, 2018 23:21:52 GMT -5
The problem with Cameron Monaghan version of The Joker is that its a billion times better then that garbage Leto is trying to pull off. Sadly Gotham will be coming to an end next season and we're going to be back to crappy Leto Joker in the DCEU.
I know everyone hated speedsters for Flash villains but the season has just seemed so boring & dragging on because he's fighting a "brainiac" type. I really hope season 5 they go back to a speedster. It would be great if they could trim the team down as well to make room for Kid Flash. He just doesnt fit into Legends IMO.
Arrow...Ive given up on this show ever being good again. Season 5 finale gave me so much hope, seeing Deathstroke again thinking he was going to be at least a minimal part of this season...then he gets like 2 episodes and the main villain changes like 3 times and Im suppose to believe this regular old dude who talks through his teeth can defeat the Green Arrow? There's no hope. Id be perfectly OK if they would just cancel this show and move Green Arrow/Oliver & Laurel/Black Canary to Legends although Id miss Diggle.
Legends...just stay the course. You really dont have "background" to be compared to. Just keep making the show creative and fun and they will be fine.
Black Lightening...Just go away
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Post by PJ on May 14, 2018 15:10:17 GMT -5
The only thing about Gotham I have never been on board with is actor playing Bruce. To me the actor playing him is nothing like Bruce Wayne.
Flash I enjoy but this DeVoe story is dragging on.
Arrow I still it enjoy but I wish is was just Ollie, Diggle and Felicity. While I do like the others I feel it is to many heroes in one city.
Supergirl I have no complaints with.
Legends is just a fun show.
Black Lightning I felt like I labored to watch weekly. I doubt I will watch another season if there is more.
Krypton has potential to be something good, but unfortunately that isn’t the case.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 17, 2018 17:56:36 GMT -5
So Stephen Amell announced today that the next CW crossover will feature Gotham City & Batwoman.
Kinda meh on this to be honest. If they're going to bring in someone from the Bat family they really should have went Nightwing. Robin being on the new Titans is obviously off limits and we know Batman wont show up because of Gotham. They've mentioned Bludhaven countless times on Arrow....they really dropped the ball.
Plus I imagine that 90% of Batwoman character portrayal is going to be about her being a lesbian and the other 10% will be her & Sara flirting with each other.
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Post by MacReady on May 22, 2018 10:33:57 GMT -5
Gotham set up one hell of a final season. No Man's Land/ Arkham City Hybrid... can't wait!
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Post by punksnotdead on May 23, 2018 12:20:22 GMT -5
I took Arrow off my DVR. I gave it like 3 seasons to get its sh*t together and it just didn't click for me. I still really love Amell as Oliver but that show is so far off the tracks that I can't do it anymore.
I liked the finale for Flash. Using Marlize to beat DeVoe was coming a mile away but I liked the dynamic with Barry and Ralph inside his head. It was very City of Light. I'm not sure if it's the same writer but it wouldn't be that far fetched with them both being CW shows. The fallout was probably my favorite part. It was fun to watch them weave Nora throughout the episodes and then see her get involved at the end. Plus, JPK is gorgeous imo. The baby stuff was kind of ridiculous but it worked as a plot device for Cecile, I guess. The Harry stuff entertains me. We just keep getting to see Tom Cavanagh's range season after season. I think the finale left the show on a high note heading into next season and it left me with a smile.
The big difference between Flash and Arrow for me is that Flash can survive the filler episodes with light hearted Saturday morning save the days. Arrow uses filler episodes to focus on all of the drama of the interpersonal relationships and none of it makes sense at this stage in the game with most of them. Like Diggle randomly being upset that he's not going to be Green Arrow or Olicity being on-again, off-again every time Oliver has to make a hard decision. Not to mention, everyone would have moved out of Star City had even a fraction of the plot occurred around them. I just can't do it anymore. It feels like a chore staring at me from my DVR.
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Post by IRS on Jun 5, 2018 10:51:12 GMT -5
Well, now that I'm back from my hiatus, I'll say this... I really hope Arrow is able to turn it around now that Guggenheim has been ousted as showrunner and they're bringing in like 7 new writers. I don't have high hopes, but I also thought Supernatural was fried after S6-S10, and they've managed to pull off an incredible resurrection since S11 after they changed showrunners. I thought the direction they were going with Oliver cutting everyone off and getting "back to the mission" was great... so, of course it lasted one episode. Get rid of Dinah, Dig, Curtis, Hoss, and greatly sideline Felicity (I know this one is hoping for too much, but, eh). They're clearly capable of still making compelling episodes when they're Oliver-centric and not full of unneeded fluff, so ing do it. Also saw that S5 of Gotham will only be 10 episodes. That sucks, but at least they're getting one more season to wrap it up.
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Post by BSR on Jun 5, 2018 11:58:58 GMT -5
Well, now that I'm back from my hiatus, I'll say this... I really hope Arrow is able to turn it around now that Guggenheim has been ousted as showrunner and they're bringing in like 7 new writers. I don't have high hopes, but I also thought Supernatural was fried after S6-S10, and they've managed to pull off an incredible resurrection since S11 after they changed showrunners. I thought the direction they were going with Oliver cutting everyone off and getting "back to the mission" was great... so, of course it lasted one episode. Get rid of Dinah, Dig, Curtis, Hoss, and greatly sideline Felicity (I know this one is hoping for too much, but, eh). They're clearly capable of still making compelling episodes when they're Oliver-centric and not full of unneeded fluff, so ing do it. Also saw that S5 of Gotham will only be 10 episodes. That sucks, but at least they're getting one more season to wrap it up. Welcome back. That sucks about Gotham. It's been great. Arrow won't change
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Post by IRS on Jun 5, 2018 15:38:07 GMT -5
Well, now that I'm back from my hiatus, I'll say this... I really hope Arrow is able to turn it around now that Guggenheim has been ousted as showrunner and they're bringing in like 7 new writers. I don't have high hopes, but I also thought Supernatural was fried after S6-S10, and they've managed to pull off an incredible resurrection since S11 after they changed showrunners. I thought the direction they were going with Oliver cutting everyone off and getting "back to the mission" was great... so, of course it lasted one episode. Get rid of Dinah, Dig, Curtis, Hoss, and greatly sideline Felicity (I know this one is hoping for too much, but, eh). They're clearly capable of still making compelling episodes when they're Oliver-centric and not full of unneeded fluff, so ing do it. Also saw that S5 of Gotham will only be 10 episodes. That sucks, but at least they're getting one more season to wrap it up. Welcome back. That sucks about Gotham. It's been great. Arrow won't change The one time I try to be optimistic about Arrow...
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Post by BSR on Jun 5, 2018 15:48:51 GMT -5
Welcome back. That sucks about Gotham. It's been great. Arrow won't change The one time I try to be optimistic about Arrow... They're doing a Gotham storyline on arrow. Only with Catwoman.
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Post by IRS on Jun 5, 2018 16:10:07 GMT -5
The one time I try to be optimistic about Arrow... They're doing a Gotham storyline on arrow. Only with Catwoman. Thought it was Batwoman?
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Post by BSR on Jun 5, 2018 16:20:42 GMT -5
They're doing a Gotham storyline on arrow. Only with Catwoman. Thought it was Batwoman? Maybe it is. Idk I skimmed through the article.
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Post by IRS on Jun 5, 2018 18:53:21 GMT -5
Maybe it is. Idk I skimmed through the article. Eh, I'm willing to give it a chance. Amell said they plan to adapt a new storytelling technique for the new season, supposedly the pod method that AOS uses. And that worked fantastically for Shield so far.
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Post by BSR on Jun 5, 2018 19:50:09 GMT -5
Maybe it is. Idk I skimmed through the article. Eh, I'm willing to give it a chance. Amell said they plan to adapt a new storytelling technique for the new season, supposedly the pod method that AOS uses. And that worked fantastically for Shield so far. Maybe Felicity dies in episode one.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 6, 2018 19:45:53 GMT -5
Arsenal coming back full time in Season 7 is kinda surprising. They really have too many people on the show right now where you cant develop and move characters. They absolutely have to reduce the Olicity crap or fans just simply will not get back on board.
Also Supergirl is getting harder and harder to watch.
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Post by IRS on Aug 10, 2018 19:52:10 GMT -5
Alright, what do y'all think of the new Flash suit? I think I need to see it in action before I form a full opinion on it, but so far, I think it's pretty good.
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