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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 21:37:25 GMT -5
What's this? A post from me that isn't about 1997??? ERMAGERD!!!!
Anyway, this is a two-part post. This is NOT intended to just be a Hulk Hogan bashing post but it's going to be because I just recently found something out that pissed me off.
Part 1:
Hulk Hogan won the 1990 Royal Rumble. We all know this, right? However, what you might not know is that Mr. Perfect was scheduled to win the 1990 Royal Rumble for WEEKS leading into the event. On the day of the show, literally hours before bell time, Hulk Hogan supposedly lobbied to Vince McMahon that he needed the win and instead, won the match.
ARE YOU FU*KING KIDDING ME! F*CK HIM! He needed the win!??! Why? He already had the damn championship!. He already won the Rumble during the previous year! I could see if there was some way Hogan spun it about the match helping his feud with Ultimate Warrior but the two STILL could have had their little stare down and segment during the Rumble which they did regardless. Also, Warrior was eliminated earlier in the match and didn't even make it to the final two. It was down to Mr. Perfect and Hulk Hogan which it was going to be since day 1 anyway. Why change the booking? They had spent weeks and months building up Mr. Perfect only to have it lead nowhere. Not to mention, Hogan no-sells the Perfect Plex like it's a damn Ric Flair chop. F*CK YOU!
Mr. Perfect's manager, The Genius, even got a count out victory over Hogan on Saturday Night's Main Event leading up to the Rumble. That's right...THE GENIUS has a victory over Hulk Hogan. Too bad that after the Rumble Perfect and Genius were treated like total jobbers in a tag match against Warrior/Hogan on Saturday Night's Main Event leading into Wrestlemania.
Now, I have no problem with Warrior/Hogan being the main event of Wrestlemania. None. However, why on earth would you spend all this time building up Mr. Perfect (who sold his ASS off selling for Hogan/Warrior which is the only thing that could make their offense not look like total sh*t) only to go nowhere with him? F*ck this.
Part 2:
What happened to The Genius? This guy was great! I think his graduation attire was total trash but his poetry and ring work were just so out there and different from ANYTHING we have really seen before or since. Did he get fired from WWF or leave on his own or what? This guy was GREAT!
Thanks for reading.
F*ck you, Hogan. Be a man.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 17, 2013 21:44:31 GMT -5
Personally I never heard that Perfect was suppose to win the Rumble so that's news to me. With that being said, if the whole plan was to do Hogan vs Warrior anyway, I dont see why Perfect winning would help anything. If anything at all, to me it would bring down the aura of the Royal Rumble. To that point your 2 previous winners were basically mid carders and it did nothing for their careers. If Perfect wins this Rumble and then basically does nothing in the main event scene...What is the importance is winning the Rumble?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 21:58:31 GMT -5
Personally I never heard that Perfect was suppose to win the Rumble so that's news to me. With that being said, if the whole plan was to do Hogan vs Warrior anyway, I dont see why Perfect winning would help anything. If anything at all, to me it would bring down the aura of the Royal Rumble. To that point your 2 previous winners were basically mid carders and it did nothing for their careers. If Perfect wins this Rumble and then basically does nothing in the main event scene...What is the importance is winning the Rumble? Just because he wasn't going to main event Wrestlemania (which is fine) doesn't mean that he couldn't have still benefited and been pushed for winning. Having Mr. Perfect eliminate Hulk Hogan, the WWF Champion, would have immediately placed him into main event status and he could have gone on to feud with Hogan and/or Warrior for the title later in the year at Summerslam or Survivor Series. Plus, it would have instantly made him a top heel which the WWF needed so desperately during 1990. Hence, why the face vs. face match happened. Mr. Perfect was super hot at the time and it's a shame they didn't capitalize on it more. It would have benefited everyone, in my opinion. Hogan losing the Rumble does nothing to hurt him. However, Hogan winning the Rumble does nothing to help him, the company, anybody else or to create a new main event star. Hogan winning did NOTHING to help anything. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 17, 2013 22:06:53 GMT -5
Personally I never heard that Perfect was suppose to win the Rumble so that's news to me. With that being said, if the whole plan was to do Hogan vs Warrior anyway, I dont see why Perfect winning would help anything. If anything at all, to me it would bring down the aura of the Royal Rumble. To that point your 2 previous winners were basically mid carders and it did nothing for their careers. If Perfect wins this Rumble and then basically does nothing in the main event scene...What is the importance is winning the Rumble? Just because he wasn't going to main event Wrestlemania (which is fine) doesn't mean that he couldn't have still benefited and been pushed for winning. Having Mr. Perfect eliminate Hulk Hogan, the WWF Champion, would have immediately placed him into main event status and he could have gone on to feud with Hogan and/or Warrior for the title later in the year at Summerslam or Survivor Series. Plus, it would have instantly made him a top heel which the WWF needed so desperately during 1990. Hence, why the face vs. face match happened. Mr. Perfect was super hot at the time and it's a shame they didn't capitalize on it more. It would have benefited everyone, in my opinion. Hogan losing the Rumble does nothing to hurt him. However, Hogan winning the Rumble does nothing to help him, the company, anybody else or to create a new main event star. Hogan winning did NOTHING to help anything. I never said Hogan winning helped or hurt him, but it does help the aura of the Royal Rumble. I love Mr. Perfect but he was never going to be a long term main event heel. Technically he was one of the best wrestlers of the era but he wasnt "sized" right for the era. Hints why guys like Hogan, Savage, Warrior, and the main heel for 1990, Rick Rude, were bigger names. In all honesty if I was McMahon and I knew that I was putting the title on Warrior, I would have given Rude the Rumble win. Especially since I knew later on in the year that he was going to be in the main event scene. He would have credentials of being a former IC Champ as well as a Rumble winner and also previous victory over Warrior. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 22:19:12 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree.
They HAD been pushing Perfect to the main event scene though. He was one of the top heels at the time right behind maybe Macho King who was feuding with Dusty Rhodes. Hell, his manager was given a cheap win over Hogan and they even destroyed the damn WWF Championship belt.
It's not like the Rumble winner was given a title shot at Wrestlemania back then like they do now. It was just a match that really could have elevated Perfect into the main event scene.
Hell, if they still wanted to "protect" Hogan they could have had Perfect eliminate Hogan due to a distraction (either intentional/accidental) from Ultimate Warrior which would have even made their feud hotter while ALSO elevating Mr. Perfect. I think everybody would win in that scenario.
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Post by Brad on Oct 17, 2013 22:32:51 GMT -5
If that's true that is beyond shitty of the hulkster
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 17, 2013 23:06:17 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan didn't win the Rumble the previous year. Big John Studd won it in 1989.
And I never heard of Mr. Perfect winning the Rumble either. It seemed pretty obvious that Hogan was gonna win it in 1990.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 23:14:45 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan didn't win the Rumble the previous year. Big John Studd won it in 1989. And I never heard of Mr. Perfect winning the Rumble either. It seemed pretty obvious that Hogan was gonna win it in 1990. I stand corrected. Hogan won in 1990 & 1991. My bad. I was thinking he won in 1989 & 1990. In other news, Mr. Perfect was actually still undefeated at the time of Royal Rumble 1990 until he lost his first match to Hogan's best buddy, Brutus Beefcake, at Wrestlemania 6. Whatever. |
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Post by hbkjason on Oct 18, 2013 4:13:43 GMT -5
Wow thats crazy I have never in my 25 years as a fan heard that one. Would have been pretty cool to see Mr Perfect win the Royal Rumble. But if anything to me it would have made more sense for the Ultimate Warrior to win the Rumble or at the very least have had him eliminate Hogan during the match and not Hogan eliminate him.
Maybe they could have done it where Hogan, Warrior and Perfect were the last three and while Warrior and Hogan were grappling at the ropes Prefect swooped in an got rid of them both.
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 18, 2013 7:12:25 GMT -5
well,I know Perfect dropped The Genius sometime between April 1st ,1990 ( Mania VI,when he was still in Perfect's corner) and April 23, 1990 ( when Perfect won the vacant IC title tournament and debuted Heenan as his new manager). my guess is they wanted Perfect to be taken as a serious Champ,and didn't feel The Genius helped portray that like Heenan did as a long-standing manager.
The Genius eventually popped up again as manager of the Beverly Brothers,but before that he just was used strictly as a wrestler again:
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Post by Greensborohill on Oct 18, 2013 7:18:51 GMT -5
The more preplexing question regarding Mr. Perfect and RR 1990, during the under card he appears during Beefcakes match with an orange singlet with black & green on the back. Then for the rumble he comes back out with an orange singlet with just black on the back. . . . why the change of attire?
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Post by Greensborohill on Oct 18, 2013 7:21:13 GMT -5
Also a little something I noticed regarding RR 90. If you notice toward the end, Rick Rude jumps the gun and runs down to the ring before the two minute clock.
Reason was, they booked the Hogan/UW showdown, then Barbarian comes in and has two minutes to just beat up BOTH of the WWF's top stars. Someone in the back must have saw how weak this was making them look and sent Rude down ASAP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 10:59:45 GMT -5
Personally I never heard that Perfect was suppose to win the Rumble so that's news to me. With that being said, if the whole plan was to do Hogan vs Warrior anyway, I dont see why Perfect winning would help anything. If anything at all, to me it would bring down the aura of the Royal Rumble. To that point your 2 previous winners were basically mid carders and it did nothing for their careers. If Perfect wins this Rumble and then basically does nothing in the main event scene...What is the importance is winning the Rumble? I agree.also never heard about Hennig winning the Rumble.where did you hear this man?besides he was hardly "hard done by" he was hand picked to be the next IC champ after Warrior.being the IC champ meant a LOT then.Hennig did just fine. Hogan or Warrior had to win this Rumble IMO.the plan was Hogan vs Warrior at WM 6......one of them DEFO needed this win.since Warrior was going over Hogan had to have the RR......Perfect winning it then losing to Beefcake at WM6 wouldn't have helped the Rumbles power. and Sorry Bash....the Genius did ZERO for me man. Savage had the nerve to talk about Hogan getting his cronies jobs when he got this bum 2 high paying jobs and he was sh*t in both of them.sorry actually he wasn't sh*t ion WCW because they never used him on TV. I also enjoyed Beefcake beating Hennig.Beefcake was one of my fave wrestlers back then.if he hadn't got in the parasailing accident he would have beaten him again for the IC strap at Summerslam 90....... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 11:31:40 GMT -5
I can understand why Hogan thought he needed the win, considering how he was about the "pass the torch" to Warrior. Hogan was all about protecting himself.
I've also never heard that Perfect was going to win the 90 Rumble, did it come from a reliable source?
One thing I do want to say, is that it should have either been Earthquake or Mr. Perfect that won the title at the '91 Rumble instead of Slaughter. No one gave a crap about Slaughter by the time the Rumble had rolled around, let alone Wrestlemania. Earthquake had been in a feud with Hogan that never really got the blow off that it should have.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 11:42:08 GMT -5
It was at the beginning of OSW's review of Royal Rumble 1990. They mention the deal about Perfect.
I just don't feel like Hogan or Warrior HAD to win so badly. They could have ran a great angle where they eliminate each other or there's a distraction or something which have made the feud even hotter.
I liked Genius a lot with Perfect which I'm seeing a lot of for the first time. I only remember him being with the Beverly Brothers who sucked.
I still stand by my opinion that Perfect needed the win to be cemented as a top heel which they needed so badly. DiBiase was leaving for the summer, Rude was doing nothing and Macho was in a sh*t feud with Dusty Rhodes.
Am I saying Perfect should have main evented Wrestlemania VI? Not at all. Hogan/Warrior was the right choice. I never saw anything in Beefcake but I certainly see much more of an upside with Perfect than him. Plus, again, WWF was desperate for top heels and Perfect could have filled that void when it came to Summerslam time.
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Post by robbutler01 on Oct 18, 2013 12:42:49 GMT -5
cant remember where but I have heard this about perfect winning the rumble. Also something about he got the IC title in return for not winning and doing the job to Beefcake at mania but never really sure how valid it was.
I cant see how Perfect winning would have fit the big picture but its not that far fetched as Duggan and Stud won the 2 prior to it. Being a massive Perfect fan now I always thought it was a shame if the rumour about Hogan was true.
This was my 3rd event that I ever saw and was a hulkamaniac at that point but looking back really wish Perfect had got a big run
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Post by Raine on Oct 18, 2013 14:23:09 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior should have won this Rumble, simple logic really
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Post by Flair Forever on Oct 20, 2013 14:50:37 GMT -5
I always heard that Lanny "The Genius" Poffo went to WCW.... and they paid him a ridiculous amount for a LONG time, and never asked him to appear on camera even once....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 23:54:26 GMT -5
Part 2: What happened to The Genius? I saw a shoot interview about a month or two ago during which he claimed to be able to suck his own penis. I assume that's what he's been doing for the past 20+ years. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 23:56:02 GMT -5
Part 2: What happened to The Genius? I saw a shoot interview about a month or two ago during which he claimed to be able to suck his own penis. I assume that's what he's been doing for the past 20+ years. My hero. |
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