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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Aug 17, 2007 5:02:55 GMT -5
Maybe its better to you and the other smarks who think they are smarter than everyone, but not to the casual fans. The majority of people who watch wrestling are casual fans not internet smarks. And why would they have to establish talent that started there when they can get talent that are already established? Why make Sharkboy a main eventer when you can get guys like Rhyno and Christian? It saves time and gets better ratings. Lol @ these why make Homicide, Robert Roode & Sharkboy main eventers. No one said anything about those guys. Do you not know what can happen if you don't make new stars? TNA probably has the most dense fans ever. Even worse than WWE(way worse). Why make new stars? Because the ex WWE guys aren't gonna be around forever. Did you not see what happened to WCW? You have to make new stars and look to the future. How many times do I have to say this? Are you guys that dense? |
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Post by Kid Lightning on Aug 17, 2007 13:02:35 GMT -5
TNA has home grown stars. Once these established guys run their course they will take over. Contrary to belief TNA is not WCW. They have far more home grown stars The ex-WWE guys they made main eventers were made into main eventers there for the most part unlke WCW who took WWE main eventers like Hogan/Savage/Nash/Hall
When has XXX jobbed? Oh wait they lost a match! They must suck now cause only jobbers lose matches.
Joe has main evented about half of the PPV's this year. Saying he is misused is intellectually- disabled. Having your top face chase the gold is an old school proven winner because the fans wanna see him win it and buy his title matches. It's smart.
TNA fans are starting to get on my nerves Never satsfied. Reminds me of when I had The Hurricane lose a match in my fig fed when I was younger and my little brother cried. Childish behavior!
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Post by Anaconda Vice on Aug 17, 2007 13:23:47 GMT -5
TNA is simply going down hill...I love TNA but lets face it the past year or two its gone down hill...and to have one man have every freakin title ...I mean how is that gonna help the company ..even if they brought in Lesnar big freakin deal what another fued with Angle/Lesnar for a year ...or what not ....already been done in WWE....they should push the talent that got them to where they were...not the talent that got released from other companies or dont even wanna wrestle full time yeah I agree. They are going down hill nd it started good but now its just spiraling down hill |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Aug 17, 2007 18:26:39 GMT -5
TNA has home grown stars. Once these established guys run their course they will take over. Contrary to belief TNA is not WCW. They have far more home grown stars The ex-WWE guys they made main eventers were made into main eventers there for the most part unlke WCW who took WWE main eventers like Hogan/Savage/Nash/Hall All of TNA's guys are playing second to the WWE guys. Samoa Joe should of had the title at BFG '05. BFG 06' at the latest. AJ Styles shouldn't be Christian's bitch. Abyss shouldn't be put in intellectually- disabled storylines and Daniels should be in the main event scene. Daniels also lost his X-Division shot. What happened to his big main event push? What happened to him being done with the X-Division? Oh TNA... Again, Joe was promised he would have the title by now when he left ROH. That obviously hasn't been the case. You TNA fans could say bye to the most over guy on the roster pretty soon because he's heading back home to ROH! I'm not a TNA fan. I'm a wrestling fan. Right now TNA is in the ****tier and their talent as well as their long time fans are unhappy. That means something is wrong. Oh and by the way it's satisfied. Spell check is your friend. |
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Post by sabathia on Aug 17, 2007 22:11:16 GMT -5
Its funny how everyone thinks they know whats better for a company than people who run the company. Of the people on the TNA roster I do business with, it's pretty easy to see how annoyed they are with the company and the people who run it. You've got one top talent already counting down the seconds until his deal is up, you have a tag team ready to get out so they can go back to working Japan and actually making more money on a regular basis, and to top that you've got intellectually- disabled person fans who seem to accept mindless crap and then ridicule the talent who leave because they talk about how big of a dump a company is. TNA is digging themselves the most entertaining disaster of a hole I've ever seen. This is worse then WCW. Thankfully when TNA's talented wrestlers are left out to dry an alternative(ROH) is there to bring them back where wrestling is done right. TNA has home grown stars. Once these established guys run their course they will take over. Contrary to belief TNA is not WCW. They have far more home grown stars The ex-WWE guys they made main eventers were made into main eventers there for the most part unlke WCW who took WWE main eventers like Hogan/Savage/Nash/Hall Hillarious, TNA has off the top of my head 3 home grown stars. James Storm, Chris Harris, & Bobby Roode. Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Alex Shelley, Homicide, Hernandez, and Jay Lethal all made their name in ROH, a company that actually books talent in a proper manner. When has XXX jobbed? Oh wait they lost a match! They must suck now cause only jobbers lose matches. When you consider that the group was a top level act four years ago and is immediatly jobbing to guys like Sonjay Dutt, it is mind boggling. You don't reform a very good and popular act and then have it lose the first PPV match back together as a tag team. That's common sense. Joe has main evented about half of the PPV's this year. Saying he is misused is intellectually- disabled. Having your top face chase the gold is an old school proven winner because the fans wanna see him win it and buy his title matches. It's smart. It's smart to the same retards who ran WCW out of business and the same fans who accept WWE and TNA programming as good when in reality it's not. The chase of a babyface has to have a payoff and not stupid finishes causes a loss. The babyface also has to get his heat back on tv, something Joe has not done. There's a reason Joe is leaving TNA when his deal is up. It's because they won't allow a non-WWE champion. It's on Dixie & Jeff Jarrett. TNA fans are starting to get on my nerves Never satsfied. Reminds me of when I had The Hurricane lose a match in my fig fed when I was younger and my little brother cried. Childish behavior! Never ever speak again, the intellectually- disabled scale on the previous paragraph read a 9.8. |
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Post by BulletV1 on Aug 17, 2007 22:15:27 GMT -5
- Rhino - Like he even had a run with the belt. He held it for about two weeks. He was a trasitional champion and it was fun with him being champion. Honestly, he could have been a good champion. WWE ruined Rhyno and TNA was saving him but they dropped the ball. Dude, try two days on his title run. It went from Jarrett, to Rhino, to Jarrett in two days. If I recall correctly. The only reason Rhino was given the title, was because the main event was pretty messed up since Nash, had a staph infection. They wanted to surprise the live crowd. |
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Post by Master Lewpac on Aug 18, 2007 3:31:09 GMT -5
Ok, well.. All of you WWE Marks just love to shut down TNA, so heres a little shot at you..
How many WcW/ECW guys became WWE world champion?
Just off the top of my head:
RVD
Stone Cold
Goldberg
Chris Benoit
Rey Mysterio
Eddie Guerrero
Big Show
And the man who has you all clinging to his balls, just dreaming for a comeback..
Chris Jericho.
So before you start naming people that won the TNA title, take a look at your precious WWE, and notice, they've done the same damn thing.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Aug 18, 2007 7:11:57 GMT -5
Who is all these "precious" WWE marks? Certainly not me. WWE is on the same boat as TNA. The difference is WWE will always make money no matter what so we expect to see garbage from them.
It's seriously sad when TNA fans best arguments are "well it's better than WWE". Is that really the best you can do?
Oh and the point is WWE actually made their own stars and gave them world titles TNA has not. Off the top of my head WWE has made.
Hulk Hogan
John Cena
Stone Cold(he wasn't over in WCW and still wasnt all that huge in ECW either)
The Rock
Triple H
Shawn Michaels
The Undertaker
Bret Hart
Kurt Angle
Edge
Randy Orton
Batista
Brock Lesnar
Macho Man
Just to name a few.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 18, 2007 9:27:55 GMT -5
I like that list although, in all fairness to TNA fans, the same thing you said about Stone Cold in ECW could be said about Christian Cage in the WWE... he wasn't all that huge and it was TNA that made Christian Cage a World Champion... But the majority of WWE Made Champs is a lot more plentiful than the list of TNA made champs...
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Post by Heresy on Aug 18, 2007 15:38:11 GMT -5
Who is all these "precious" WWE marks? Certainly not me. WWE is on the same boat as TNA. The difference is WWE will always make money no matter what so we expect to see garbage from them. It's seriously sad when TNA fans best arguments are "well it's better than WWE". Is that really the best you can do? Oh and the point is WWE actually made their own stars and gave them world titles TNA has not. Off the top of my head WWE has made. Hulk Hogan John Cena Stone Cold(he wasn't over in WCW and still wasnt all that huge in ECW either) The Rock Triple H Shawn Michaels The Undertaker Bret Hart Kurt Angle Edge Randy Orton Batista Brock Lesnar Macho Man Just to name a few. Pwned. I like that list although, in all fairness to TNA fans, the same thing you said about Stone Cold in ECW could be said about Christian Cage in the WWE... Not really... Christian's best feuds, best matches, and best moments are in WWE. He has achieved so much success in WWE it's mindboggeling some say he was misused. Underutilized? It's debatable. Misused? Not a chance. A homegrown is generally someone who starts at the bottom of a promotion and works his way up. Steve Austin did this in WWE under the Ringmaster name, Christian Cage started out as an acknowledged former WWE guy, and was thrown right into TNA's main event as a result. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 18, 2007 16:51:35 GMT -5
Who is all these "precious" WWE marks? Certainly not me. WWE is on the same boat as TNA. The difference is WWE will always make money no matter what so we expect to see garbage from them. It's seriously sad when TNA fans best arguments are "well it's better than WWE". Is that really the best you can do? Oh and the point is WWE actually made their own stars and gave them world titles TNA has not. Off the top of my head WWE has made. Hulk Hogan John Cena Stone Cold(he wasn't over in WCW and still wasnt all that huge in ECW either) The Rock Triple H Shawn Michaels The Undertaker Bret Hart Kurt Angle Edge Randy Orton Batista Brock Lesnar Macho Man Just to name a few. Pwned. I like that list although, in all fairness to TNA fans, the same thing you said about Stone Cold in ECW could be said about Christian Cage in the WWE... Not really... Christian's best feuds, best matches, and best moments are in WWE. He has achieved so much success in WWE it's mindboggeling some say he was misused. Underutilized? It's debatable. Misused? Not a chance. A homegrown is generally someone who starts at the bottom of a promotion and works his way up. Steve Austin did this in WWE under the Ringmaster name, Christian Cage started out as an acknowledged former WWE guy, and was thrown right into TNA's main event as a result. Alright, I see what you mean then... I knew Christian wasn't misused... I mean he's a former 9 time World Tag Champ, 3 time IC Champ, and former European, Hardcore and Light Heavyweight champ... I don't really see that as Misused... Underutilized, maybe but still... in his last few years with the company (From the time he cut his hair) he was really pretty over and did manage to get into some good feuds that got over with the fans. Just because he wasn't World Champ doesn't mean that he was underutilized... hell, around the end of his run with the WWE it looked like they were kinda sorta grooming him to be a future World Champ... All TNA did was rush it on him so the fans didn't care as much with Christian as champ... |
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