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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 21, 2013 11:33:29 GMT -5
So after I pitched my idea to Trace on my way to help improve this place, in regards to turnarounds, I got his blessing to contact Zeke about a partnership with his board here on WFWF. We have no idea if you guys, or their guys, are going to bite. But it cannot hurt to have a discussion about it. Here is the link to the thread where I detail both sides. Note, neiter side is required to help. They do NOT HAVE to RP/write if they are uninterested, and you guys do NOT HAVE to text/critique if you are uninterested. I just had an idea that might be able to help, so...let us discuss it. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/289198/proposition-texters
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Post by Markw on Oct 21, 2013 12:01:05 GMT -5
There's a text fed help & discussion board for a reason. Anyway it's a nice idea, if it works then it could be great for us and probably pretty good for them (I don't think they'd be getting the better end of the deal frankly, but still hopefully the opportunity to write more frequently and with fictional characters will appeal to them). So yeah if it works out (which I kind of doubt, but I'm a pessimist) it will be good. Nice to see some more attempts at improving things around here anyway.
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Post by Revvie® on Oct 21, 2013 12:24:37 GMT -5
I do feel a little like Mark, in saying they seem to get the short end of the stick. I mean, I will state highly that this fed has seen more rping comments, and activity lately....but enough willingness to both with helping other writers...idk..maybe. I think if we had something more to offer the otherside, then it might be more appealing. That said, you nuts better keep up this Activity, that goes out to everyone in the fed. Give this place some zest before we hit Scars and Stripes and SuperBrawl.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 21, 2013 12:38:50 GMT -5
Well that is the whole reason I put it up for discussion. We are all open to adjusting it so we can ensure both sides are completely happy and it works well for all parties.
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Post by Markw on Oct 21, 2013 12:48:35 GMT -5
Do we really, genuinely, have anything to offer them?
And having had a quick look around they don't seem to write full match results in the way that we do anyway, so wouldn't it be better to see if something could be sorted out with the few surviving fantasy bookers on here?
There's already a link there with Obo and I think you used to do a little didn't you Shawn? They're more likely to have something to offer us and perhaps (just an idea) WFWF show results could be posted up there, we'd get much better responses to show results than we do currently, matches written by people who already write in a similar way and I'm sure they'd be even more appreciative of the two or three extra replies that they might get as a result.
I think that would be better anyway, but I can't say I know an awful lot about the Text Fed board.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 21, 2013 12:55:57 GMT -5
I know Schneider and I have ties to the Fantasy board, but I have a better relationship with Zeke than Ant. And ask Ace, I thought of going to the Fantasy board but I wanted to see if we could work something out elsewhere first, to see if, with two or three writers, we could at least get the ball rolling to have something to present to the Fantasy guys and maybe tie all three boards together at some point and get everyone working in unison, and gain writers and RPrs and text and all of that. But we need to see if it works first, and better to test with maybe 3 than 9 to see if it works.
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Post by Markw on Oct 21, 2013 14:10:40 GMT -5
I've had a look around the Text Fed board, and I don't mean to be a buzzkill, but most of the full show results are no longer than the average WFWF match. The vast majority of matches on there aren't much longer or better than the quick match results that you post when no one writes a match. That's not a criticism of them, my point is that the two activities are really completely different, they just don't seem (to me at least) to be that compatible at all. I'm not sure that they're going to be able to come in here and adapt to the way WFWF shows are written instantly and I'm not sure how much help advice from people on here is going to be to Text Fedders when they genuinely seem to be more interested in documenting figure federations than creative writing (apologies if that's not the case, I've literally just had a very quick browse of the stuff on the first page of the Text Fed board). At the very least I hope that if it doesn't work out with the Text Fed board as we'd hope, that doesn't put an end to the idea entirely, because I think with fantasy booking which operates in a way that's much closer to the way we operate, it has an awful lot of potential.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 14:20:56 GMT -5
I would suggest trying the Sims board instead of the Text Fed board. Trace, Ace, myself and others have all been a part of that board. The amount of talent there is huge, considering if you read people's matches for PPVs. They know how to write matches and book faces and heels in said matches. The Sims board seems to be booming again and we are too, so it goes hand in hand. Nothing against Text Fedding, but as others have said, they don't write that long of matches. Just my two cents.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 21, 2013 14:24:42 GMT -5
Like I said, I want to work with Fantasy but that will be a much harder sell, especially if we do not have anything to prove to them that it might work. I mean, I think that Schneider and Ant are good peeps, but I know nothing of the other guys over there. I at least know the couple in the Text board, so we have that too. I mean, if they would bite I would pitch the help from Fantasy to Fantasy also and see if we cannot make it work for all involved parties, but I just get a feeling we might have to do some extra selling points.
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Post by Ace Bennett on Oct 21, 2013 14:58:22 GMT -5
While I agree with the point that other boards may be more compatible to what we want to be done, we do offer something of note to the Text Fed Board: activity. Just looking through, there is absolutely no one replying over there, and if even two of us reply to some stuff it would boost the morale over there. And I'm sure some of them are willing and able to write matches for us in the WFWF style. Most of us as writers want more than anything for our pieces to be read. We provide that audience for the text fedders, in terms of their feds that a couple of us respond to as well as the matches that they write. These matches also offer the fedders a chance to improve their writing skills, something that all writers should hope to receive when writing their pieces.
Of course other boards would fulfill our match writing standards better, and I know what we are offering on our end is less tangible than what we get in return, but we have even less to offer to those boards that are currently much more active than the text fed board. There are still threads on the first page over there that the last post that they have was from 2012. I'm willing to keep an open mind about this. If it works, we could move to the other creative writing boards and form a great relationship between all of them, which from observances of Text Feds and Fantasy Booking as well as being an active member of Wrestling Sims and WFWF have stretches of inactivity that a partnership could help.
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Post by ICW on Oct 21, 2013 19:34:01 GMT -5
I would be more than willing to write full length matches. The ONLY thing I would ask in return from the WFWF community is this:
I want reviews for ICW, Obo's WCWA, and any other shows that are posted in the fantasy booking board. That's it. I work extremely hard on shows, I'm extremely detailed-oriented but I don't get consistent reviews (Obo is the only exception).
If I would have a guarantee that the WFWF community would read what us Fantasy Bookers have to offer, I would be more than happy to write matches.
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Post by Ace Bennett on Oct 21, 2013 19:50:28 GMT -5
I'm sure at least a few of us would be willing.
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Post by ICW on Oct 21, 2013 20:12:34 GMT -5
I'm willing to talk more about it. I used to be a member of WFWF (albeit I had a short tenure) and I think the creative people on here need to look out for each other.
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Post by Revvie® on Oct 21, 2013 21:03:01 GMT -5
I'd probably be kewl with throwing out some feedback/replies in return. If it helps the creative boards, I am game on this.
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Post by ICW on Oct 21, 2013 22:09:14 GMT -5
Well I'm more than willing to do this. Let's make this official.
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Post by Revvie® on Oct 23, 2013 9:10:07 GMT -5
I just kind of wanted to ask if we were moving forward with any of this from Shawn or Trace. Since There seems to be some willingness from the Fantasy Booking, and none so far from text fedders. Are tying this baby off with a knot, or what? xD
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Post by Rated R on Oct 23, 2013 16:08:28 GMT -5
So obviously I've been away for a few days, hence my radio silence on the topic, but I'm currently talking to ICW and if we can iron out some details and questions that I've got then I don't see any reason why we can't work something out. I've always wanted to try and bring the creative boards a bit closer together.
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Post by Markw on Oct 23, 2013 16:24:50 GMT -5
Sounds good.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 23, 2013 17:09:35 GMT -5
So obviously I've been away for a few days, hence my radio silence on the topic, but I'm currently talking to ICW and if we can iron out some details and questions that I've got then I don't see any reason why we can't work something out. I've always wanted to try and bring the creative boards a bit closer together. You are a couple of days behind me mate. Haha.
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Post by ICW on Oct 24, 2013 21:21:54 GMT -5
Let's do this thing.
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