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Post by LtD73 on Nov 3, 2013 18:18:44 GMT -5
Anyone know how/when The Two Man Power Trip angle was supposed to end originally, or was it meant to work into the Invasion angle?
Plus I've been wondering was the Invasion angle pushed up due to HHH getting injured and ending the Power Trip angle.
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Post by Punk on Nov 3, 2013 18:21:33 GMT -5
I swear to god there was a thread on this two days ago.
To sum up that thread, it was almost a positive that Trips got injured as they were going to spin into an Austin/Hunter feud AGAIN. So much went wrong in that small period.
They brought HBK back, but he was too messed up. Benoit got injured. Triple H got injured. Rock left to film.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 3, 2013 19:50:43 GMT -5
Austin said in one of his DVDs something along the lines that him and HHH would have turned on each other. Basically HHH would have gotten Angle's huge push which would have sucked because we had just gone through a very good Austin/HHH feud that lasted almost 6 months. We didn't need to see it again so soon. That feud made Angle a legit top guy and who knows what would have happened to him had HHH been around.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 20:12:36 GMT -5
Austin and HHH never had a good feud.
I just remember people getting ran over and cars being dropped from forklifts and tour buses exploding.
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Post by HHH316 on Nov 3, 2013 21:31:13 GMT -5
Austin and HHH never had a good feud. I just remember people getting ran over and cars being dropped from forklifts and tour buses exploding. Don't forget about the rattlesnake attack!
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 3, 2013 22:41:42 GMT -5
Austin and HHH never had a good feud. I just remember people getting ran over and cars being dropped from forklifts and tour buses exploding. Besides for the stupid car being dropped from a forklift segment I enjoyed their feud. Their characters hated each other like no other and would do anything to take the other out for good.
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Post by Bartman on Nov 3, 2013 23:41:09 GMT -5
They were going to reverse roles from their 2000/2001 feud, with Triple H the face and Austin the heel. Triple H I believe would've led Team WWF in the Invasion. Like someone mentioned, he would've essentially gotten the Angle push.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Nov 3, 2013 23:46:16 GMT -5
They were going to reverse roles from their 2000/2001 feud, with Triple H the face and Austin the heel. Triple H I believe would've led Team WWF in the Invasion. Like someone mentioned, he would've essentially gotten the Angle push. If HHH would of gotten Angle's push, then does that mean HHH would of defected over to the Alliance like Angle did, and would Jericho still win the Undisputed Championship and face HHH at WrestleMania X8 ?
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Post by Bartman on Nov 3, 2013 23:55:12 GMT -5
They were going to reverse roles from their 2000/2001 feud, with Triple H the face and Austin the heel. Triple H I believe would've led Team WWF in the Invasion. Like someone mentioned, he would've essentially gotten the Angle push. If HHH would of gotten Angle's push, then does that mean HHH would of defected over to the Alliance like Angle did, and would Jericho still win the Undisputed Championship and face HHH at WrestleMania X8 ? I mean he would have gotten Angle's face push and lead the WWF. I don't think he would have defected. If Triple H was still around, I actually doubt Jericho would have won the Undisputed title. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if they were setting up for Triple H vs Stone Cold at Wrestlemania. You also could have potentially had Austin/Hogan at Wrestlemania X8. So maybe Rock/HHH? It's hard to tell how things would have played out had Triple H not been injured.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 5:50:21 GMT -5
as peeps have said.....its virtually impossible to say.so much went SO wrong from April 01 thru July 01.
some seem to think HHH would have joined his wife on the Invasion side but I really cant see that.it seems set that the utterly ridiculous decision to turn Austin heel again and lead the Alliance was set in stone.
Ive said it before but Jericho should have been the one to turn on Team WWF that night.he should then have beaten Austin for the title at Summerslam 01.instant top guy due to heat and results.
I do feel that had HHH been around for this storyline that it would have been even worse.Austin/HHH II was too soon as Cordless said.
at least Austin vs Angle was fresh.
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Post by Punk on Nov 4, 2013 8:15:01 GMT -5
They were going to reverse roles from their 2000/2001 feud, with Triple H the face and Austin the heel. Triple H I believe would've led Team WWF in the Invasion. Like someone mentioned, he would've essentially gotten the Angle push. If HHH would of gotten Angle's push, then does that mean HHH would of defected over to the Alliance like Angle did, and would Jericho still win the Undisputed Championship and face HHH at WrestleMania X8 ? According To Angle, 'he was chosen to win the titles but declined as he already won the title before'. Do you think Triple H would have said the same thing? I think that line just proves WWE would of picked a heel to win no matter what.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Nov 4, 2013 10:17:00 GMT -5
If HHH would of gotten Angle's push, then does that mean HHH would of defected over to the Alliance like Angle did, and would Jericho still win the Undisputed Championship and face HHH at WrestleMania X8 ? According To Angle, 'he was chosen to win the titles but declined as he already won the title before'. Do you think Triple H would have said the same thing? I think that line just proves WWE would of picked a heel to win no matter what. Angle's chatting sh*t.
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Post by Punk on Nov 4, 2013 11:31:34 GMT -5
According To Angle, 'he was chosen to win the titles but declined as he already won the title before'. Do you think Triple H would have said the same thing? I think that line just proves WWE would of picked a heel to win no matter what. Angle's chatting sh*t. You never heard that story? Came out years ago. Same time he said he was going over Taker at Mania 22 for the title. I'd totally believe that. Think he said this in 2011.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 4, 2013 11:57:20 GMT -5
I feel that Angle and Jericho would have floundered had HHH been around. Angle's feud with Austin made him a legit top guy in the eyes of the fans. Jericho didn't get nearly the strong push that Angle did but was a guy the fans were behind and someone fresh they could try and push to the main event. Had HHH been around Jericho would have been stuck as an upper midcarder like he was whenever HHH was around.
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Post by Punk on Nov 4, 2013 12:02:28 GMT -5
After looking around I saw this.
Simply put Chris Jericho won the Undisputed title because Triple H was injured and Vince McMahon wanted Kurt Angle to look strong through 2002. I'm not a fan of Triple H but i don't believe for a second that had he been around in 2001 he would have been the first ever Undisputed champion and we would have seen Austin/Triple H at WrestleMania 18
I've heard before and it may have even been Triple H who said it that WWE were going to go with Triple H/Angle at WrestleMania 18 due to them bringing Triple H back as a face but then changed it in late 2001 and did Triple H/Angle prior to WrestleMania 18 instead. An alternative way of looking at it was that the plan was said to be Austin/Hogan and Sting/Angle and WWE were so certain they were going to sign Sting they didn't put the title on Kurt Angle.
No matter which way you look at it Chris Jericho was given the title at the last minute and was never the original choice. I like Chris Jericho and consider him to be arguably the best all around in ring performer in WWE and having been so since Shawn Michaels retired but he was never seen on the same tier as Triple H or Kurt Angle in WWE let alone Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 4, 2013 12:05:02 GMT -5
As others have said, it seems like Triple H would've basically just played the role Kurt Angle played during that summer. It would've been interesting to see their roles reversed, but similar to Austin vs Undertaker during the Power Trip run, it's a little bit "ugh, these guys again?"
The 2000-2001 Triple H feud had its ups and downs, but that last month or so of it was awesome... When these two guys hated each other so much but had the rule where they couldn't hit each other once before their match. I don't think wrestling has ever done the "no contact before the PPV" build as good as it was in that feud.
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Post by Punk on Nov 4, 2013 12:14:48 GMT -5
As others have said, it seems like Triple H would've basically just played the role Kurt Angle played during that summer. It would've been interesting to see their roles reversed, but similar to Austin vs Undertaker during the Power Trip run, it's a little bit "ugh, these guys again?" The 2000-2001 Triple H feud had its ups and downs, but that last month or so of it was awesome... When these two guys hated each other so much but had the rule where they couldn't hit each other once before their match. I don't think wrestling has ever done the "no contact before the PPV" build as good as it was in that feud. For sure man. Storyline gold. What with Debra and J.R. acting as Austin's week spots and Stephanie as Triple H's.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Nov 4, 2013 14:51:06 GMT -5
You never heard that story? Came out years ago. Same time he said he was going over Taker at Mania 22 for the title. I'd totally believe that. Think he said this in 2011. I've heard it, I just think its a load of rubbish. After looking around I saw this. Simply put Chris Jericho won the Undisputed title because Triple H was injured and Vince McMahon wanted Kurt Angle to look strong through 2002. I'm not a fan of Triple H but i don't believe for a second that had he been around in 2001 he would have been the first ever Undisputed champion and we would have seen Austin/Triple H at WrestleMania 18 I've heard before and it may have even been Triple H who said it that WWE were going to go with Triple H/Angle at WrestleMania 18 due to them bringing Triple H back as a face but then changed it in late 2001 and did Triple H/Angle prior to WrestleMania 18 instead. An alternative way of looking at it was that the plan was said to be Austin/Hogan and Sting/Angle and WWE were so certain they were going to sign Sting they didn't put the title on Kurt Angle. No matter which way you look at it Chris Jericho was given the title at the last minute and was never the original choice. I like Chris Jericho and consider him to be arguably the best all around in ring performer in WWE and having been so since Shawn Michaels retired but he was never seen on the same tier as Triple H or Kurt Angle in WWE let alone Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. I would say that, at that time, Jericho was on the same level for a brief period when he won the title (before his awful booking vs. HHH). In between Vengeance and No Way Out (with RR vs. Rocky being the high point).
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 4, 2013 17:30:14 GMT -5
You never heard that story? Came out years ago. Same time he said he was going over Taker at Mania 22 for the title. I'd totally believe that. Think he said this in 2011. I've heard it, I just think its a load of rubbish. After looking around I saw this. Simply put Chris Jericho won the Undisputed title because Triple H was injured and Vince McMahon wanted Kurt Angle to look strong through 2002. I'm not a fan of Triple H but i don't believe for a second that had he been around in 2001 he would have been the first ever Undisputed champion and we would have seen Austin/Triple H at WrestleMania 18 I've heard before and it may have even been Triple H who said it that WWE were going to go with Triple H/Angle at WrestleMania 18 due to them bringing Triple H back as a face but then changed it in late 2001 and did Triple H/Angle prior to WrestleMania 18 instead. An alternative way of looking at it was that the plan was said to be Austin/Hogan and Sting/Angle and WWE were so certain they were going to sign Sting they didn't put the title on Kurt Angle. No matter which way you look at it Chris Jericho was given the title at the last minute and was never the original choice. I like Chris Jericho and consider him to be arguably the best all around in ring performer in WWE and having been so since Shawn Michaels retired but he was never seen on the same tier as Triple H or Kurt Angle in WWE let alone Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. I would say that, at that time, Jericho was on the same level for a brief period when he won the title (before his awful booking vs. HHH). In between Vengeance and No Way Out (with RR vs. Rocky being the high point). RR vs Rocky was the high point but Jericho was never promoted as on the same level as the oter top guys. Going into the rumble Taker, HHH, Austin, Angle, etc... kept going to Rocky saying that they could wait to face him at WM for the title. Jericho was never once treated as a top guy while the Undisputed Champ.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 4, 2013 19:33:16 GMT -5
Austin and HHH never had a good feud. In terms of their program, timing was never on their side. Timing alone was the main catalyst for them not really having a solid, long term feud. In 1999, it was because Steve Austin needed to take some time off to rehabilitate his neck. For this reason, Austin was kept out of the house show circuit for the second half of 1999. The Rock & Triple H ended up main eventing the house show circuit after SummerSlam 1999. In 2000/2001, WrestleMania season was looming over the horizon and everything got shuffled around at a New York Minute. Their 3 Stages of Hell match is bar far one of the best matches both men had. I would say that both Triple H & Austin had chemistry in the ring. Their styles were similar as well as their ability to tell a story in the ring. Of course, at the end, the WWF was compelled to let them branch off into separate programs leading into WrestleMania X-Seven. I feel its not really fair to say Triple H & Austin never having a good feud. Timing wasn't on their side to have a really lengthy program. As for the WWF's plans had Triple H not tore his quad, Triple H would have been placed into the position that Kurt Angle got. The outcome of the Tag Title match that involved both Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit, where Triple H & Austin lost the tag team titles would have led to a face turn for Triple H. The booking would have been drastically different for the Invasion. The two men that benefited the most from Triple H's absence was Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle. Jericho was positioned as one of the top guys as was Angle. There are so many what if questions that arise had Triple H had not tore his quad in 2001. We can only ask them but never get any concrete answers as a result.
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