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Post by Planktung on Nov 4, 2013 23:29:40 GMT -5
Kane be on his suit and tie s***.
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Post by BCizzle on Nov 4, 2013 23:36:18 GMT -5
I don't understand why people continue to watch the product when they're so god damn miserable. Three months of non-stop bitching and you guys still haven't quit? Clearly there must be something you like. I stopped watching a couple months ago because I was so sick of the booking, but then some interesting stuff happened and I came back. There are a lot of talented guys on the show and there are aspects of it that are enjoyable - but the main storyline has been so frustrating and crappy it can't help but piss people off. When Triple H and Steph take over for good, I'm worried we may never see decent storylines again. |
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Post by Chip on Nov 4, 2013 23:41:05 GMT -5
This is the frustrating part. I keep watchin because I'm just waiting for that time when this company FINALLY does something DIFFERENT or fresh & exciting. But they don't. They have one goal in mind. That's to keep the few "legends" they have in the spotlight until they are no longer able to carry the ball. John Cena, Randy Orton, Kane, Big Show, Triple H. On top of that the only "new" guys they really care about is Alberto Del Rio & Sheamus. I guarantee if Sheamus wasn't hurt he'd be involved with this main event thing.....hell he probably would have been in Bryan's spot. The WWE thinks their fans are  ing morons. They prove it week in and week out by showing us how to download apps, showing the same 5 recap video clips 2 or 3 times in a show because "in case you're just tuning in!" and by saying we just saw the most brutal match in wrestling history, when one guy hit another one with a bamboo cane a few times. Or that by moving zooming and shaking the camera 400632 times during a beat down means there's some crazy intense super exciting action going on! This is ALL I need from wrestling to enjoy it: - Commentators to talk about the match that is happening in the ring and not twitter or the main event in 2 weeks - Promotion for upcoming shows, PPVs, outside-the-ring events - Promos from wrestlers when they are needed - Matches that don't end up with the same exact result week after week after week after week - Good camera work that actually lets me SEE the move or strike a superstar is doing and not guessing what happened because the cameraman was too busy focusing on zooming or cutting or following a punch I don't need every match on RAW to be a 5-star classic I don't need every RAW to follow a formula (promo,match,match,promo,match,promo,match) I don't even mind seeing the same 2 superstars wrestling on consecutive shows or weeks But what they are doing now is just not entertaining. I find myself looking for things to enjoy, instead of enjoying what I'm looking at. I find myself saying over and over again "why do they keep doing __________" or "yea, that's a good way to make people like __________" I've witnessed the complete BURIAL of great talent in the past year. Guys who could be ready and willing to step up to the plate and be a guy that fans would PAY MONEY TO SEE, get pushed aside and washed away for the sake of the "big boys" Bottom line? the WWE doesn't listen to their fans, no matter how many polls they hold, how many votes they tell you they got on their stupid app, or how many trends they get on Twitter. The WWE does what it wants, and TELLS YOU what you will like. Whether you do or you don't. |
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Post by Epic Z on Nov 5, 2013 0:23:35 GMT -5
This is the frustrating part. I keep watchin because I'm just waiting for that time when this company FINALLY does something DIFFERENT or fresh & exciting. But they don't. They have one goal in mind. That's to keep the few "legends" they have in the spotlight until they are no longer able to carry the ball. John Cena, Randy Orton, Kane, Big Show, Triple H. On top of that the only "new" guys they really care about is Alberto Del Rio & Sheamus. I guarantee if Sheamus wasn't hurt he'd be involved with this main event thing.....hell he probably would have been in Bryan's spot. The WWE thinks their fans are ing morons. They prove it week in and week out by showing us how to download apps, showing the same 5 recap video clips 2 or 3 times in a show because "in case you're just tuning in!" and by saying we just saw the most brutal match in wrestling history, when one guy hit another one with a bamboo cane a few times. Or that by moving zooming and shaking the camera 400632 times during a beat down means there's some crazy intense super exciting action going on! This is ALL I need from wrestling to enjoy it: - Commentators to talk about the match that is happening in the ring and not twitter or the main event in 2 weeks - Promotion for upcoming shows, PPVs, outside-the-ring events - Promos from wrestlers when they are needed - Matches that don't end up with the same exact result week after week after week after week - Good camera work that actually lets me SEE the move or strike a superstar is doing and not guessing what happened because the cameraman was too busy focusing on zooming or cutting or following a punch I don't need every match on RAW to be a 5-star classic I don't need every RAW to follow a formula (promo,match,match,promo,match,promo,match) I don't even mind seeing the same 2 superstars wrestling on consecutive shows or weeks But what they are doing now is just not entertaining. I find myself looking for things to enjoy, instead of enjoying what I'm looking at. I find myself saying over and over again "why do they keep doing __________" or "yea, that's a good way to make people like __________" I've witnessed the complete BURIAL of great talent in the past year. Guys who could be ready and willing to step up to the plate and be a guy that fans would PAY MONEY TO SEE, get pushed aside and washed away for the sake of the "big boys" Bottom line? the WWE doesn't listen to their fans, no matter how many polls they hold, how many votes they tell you they got on their stupid app, or how many trends they get on Twitter. The WWE does what it wants, and TELLS YOU what you will like. Whether you do or you don't. Well said. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 0:32:31 GMT -5
Also, why is Big Show using the 'Yes!'chants? It made a little sense when Bryan was still involved but now that he's out of the picture, Show needs to stop using someone else's popularity to get over.
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Post by torriefan4life on Nov 5, 2013 0:39:03 GMT -5
This was a hard Raw for me to make it through. It just seemed so boring and half way put together. I mean what was the whole point of Kane coming out? To throw chairs? I don't know but I'm not buying a PPV to see ADR vs Cena in another boring match and to see Big Show vs Randy Orton (I don't think I'll be alone on this). WWE needs to try harder, because I really want to like the shows.
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Post by jnavo217 on Nov 5, 2013 0:39:28 GMT -5
They've made Big Show more over in these past few weeks then hes ever been in his entire career Ya at the expense of everybody else who deserves the push over him...this is awful |
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Post by Brad on Nov 5, 2013 0:43:03 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing Who said it? AJ |
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Post by Kanenite on Nov 5, 2013 1:24:20 GMT -5
Awful RAW. I actually fell asleep and had to look online to see this Corporate Kane stuff. Not really a fan.
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Post by Chip on Nov 5, 2013 8:44:12 GMT -5
Also, why is Big Show using the 'Yes!'chants? It made a little sense when Bryan was still involved but now that he's out of the picture, Show needs to stop using someone else's popularity to get over. that crappisses me off more than anything, and i like Big Show. they tried that crapearlier this year with Del Rio when he was a face, and it was sooooo pathetic. its like "well Bryan isn't good enough, so lets just use his chant to get the people we REALLY care about over! yeah!" |
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Post by Midnight-Metal-Master on Nov 5, 2013 9:20:27 GMT -5
I can't believe Kane's went from this: TO THIS! His character/gimmick is just dead! He'll never be the "big red machine" he once was!
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Post by adzy on Nov 5, 2013 9:23:33 GMT -5
Well i thought it was actually a good RAW, 6 man tag match was great and punk/bryan/wyatts part was good, tyson kidd returned and i quite enjoyed the ending with corporate Kane, the crowd seemed into it as well
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 5, 2013 9:25:05 GMT -5
Tuned in towards the end of Raw at the 6 man tag match(which was awesome), other than seeing Kane go all Barney Stinson & suiting up, there was nothing memorable about this show, everything else other than the two things I mentioned, was completely weak imo.
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Post by J12 on Nov 5, 2013 11:18:50 GMT -5
As I said in the Survivor Series thread, WWE has somehow managed to drive me from planning to attend Survivor Series all the way to having no intention of even watching it. Last night's Raw sealed the deal.
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Post by Punk on Nov 5, 2013 11:24:28 GMT -5
Change the title to 'Monday Night KaneSuit'
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Post by Brad on Nov 5, 2013 15:40:07 GMT -5
Change the title to 'Monday Night KaneSuit' Yes, yes it should |
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Post by dylan on Nov 5, 2013 16:11:26 GMT -5
Change the title to 'Monday Night KaneSuit' Yes, yes it should I second this |
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Post by Chip on Nov 5, 2013 17:06:15 GMT -5
I really have no issues with Kane ditching the silly mask & costume. The entire point of his gimmick in '97 was that he was horribly burned as a child and couldn't talk or show his face obviously in wrestling we need to move on from things, so he lose the mask and his voice was fine. the past couple of years have been fun and yes he looks more intimidating with the mask on, but let's be honest....it's probably a gigantic pain in the ass for him to wrestle with all that crapon his head, and he's probably just tired of it. at least they are doing something different with him and not making him "generic heel #2526262" just the fact that we all reacted like "WTFFFFF?  ?" is exactly the point of him coming out in the suit |
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Post by Brad on Nov 5, 2013 18:51:30 GMT -5
I really have no issues with Kane ditching the silly mask & costume. The entire point of his gimmick in '97 was that he was horribly burned as a child and couldn't talk or show his face obviously in wrestling we need to move on from things, so he lose the mask and his voice was fine. the past couple of years have been fun and yes he looks more intimidating with the mask on, but let's be honest....it's probably a gigantic pain in the ass for him to wrestle with all that crap on his head, and he's probably just tired of it. at least they are doing something different with him and not making him "generic heel #2526262" just the fact that we all reacted like "WTFFFFF? ?" is exactly the point of him coming out in the suit For the record I'm fine with the suit thing. It's something different. WAY different for him. |
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Nov 6, 2013 2:29:35 GMT -5
Just watched Raw (I fell asleep during the Punk/Harper match last night), and all I can say is thank God for DVR.
I'm not gonna lie, I was pretty annoyed at the 6-man tag match. I swear that during that whole time when Cena couldn't get the tag I thought he was going to hit the AA out of nowhere and win the match. If he would have done that I was totally ready to light myself on fire. I don't see why Sandow couldn't of gotten the pin on Cena. It would have given Goldust and Cody a threat to the belts and maybe Damien Sandow could even have wiggled into a triple threat for the WHC at SS.
I actually like Corporate Kane, it gives new life to a dead gimmick, and I've been a Kane fan for years. I like Big Show so I'm looking forward to Orton dropping the belt to him. As for the YES! chants, it doesn't bother me at all.
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