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Post by Punk on Nov 9, 2013 13:10:06 GMT -5
WWE fans these days (especially the kids) have never seen a Goldberg match. They chant along because they're smarks and think they know everything there is to know about wrestling. But In Reality they started watching in 06. Goldberg coming back is not that big of a deal. No one was " marking the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) out jumping around " when he arrived in WWE, hell he was barely even still over by wcw 2000 . The ONLY reason whatsoever they they would want him back, is due to the overwhelming responses that Ryback gets. They see him as similar to Goldberg and hear all the fans (as I said the smarks who have never even watched a Goldberg match) chanting his name 10 years after stepping foot in a ring last. WWE takes that as "oh people still remember him that's potential money" Before Ryback, did anyone give a rats ass about Goldberg? No. He didn't even cross anyone's mind since he fell into irrelevancy in 2004 until Ryback showed up. If Goldberg does indeed get the HONOR of getting a call by wwe for one more match. He better be god damn humbled and willing to put Ryback over. Because without him, Goldberg would still be an after thought. Go home RybackV1, you're drunk!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 13:22:07 GMT -5
WWE fans these days (especially the kids) have never seen a Goldberg match. They chant along because they're smarks and think they know everything there is to know about wrestling. But In Reality they started watching in 06. Goldberg coming back is not that big of a deal. No one was " marking the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) out jumping around " when he arrived in WWE, hell he was barely even still over by wcw 2000 . The ONLY reason whatsoever they they would want him back, is due to the overwhelming responses that Ryback gets. They see him as similar to Goldberg and hear all the fans (as I said the smarks who have never even watched a Goldberg match) chanting his name 10 years after stepping foot in a ring last. WWE takes that as "oh people still remember him that's potential money" Before Ryback, did anyone give a rats ass about Goldberg? No. He didn't even cross anyone's mind since he fell into irrelevancy in 2004 until Ryback showed up. If Goldberg does indeed get the HONOR of getting a call by wwe for one more match. He better be god damn humbled and willing to put Ryback over. Because without him, Goldberg would still be an after thought. #1 The fans went crazy when Goldberg came back in 2002. The entire arena was filled with Goldberg chants. #2 People have been wanting Goldberg to come back for years. The reason he and Lesnar got such bad reactions at WMXX is because the fans felt betrayed that they were both leaving. If they didn't care about them, they wouldn't have felt annoyed that they were leaving. #3 Goldberg coming back would be a HUGE deal. He's one of the most well known wrestlers ever. Everyone and their mother knows who Goldberg is. #4 Goldberg putting Ryback over would be the equivalent of Stone Cold coming back to put Justin Gabriel over. Ryback failed as a main eventer, he'll never be anything more than a mid carder. #5 Ryback will never, ever, ever be on the levels of Goldberg. He should be honoured that people are chanting his name during his matches and associating him with Goldberg. Because to put it simply, he has zero moveset, zero charisma, zero marketability, zero in the ring and when he leaves the company he won't be thought of any more highly than Well Dunn or the Heavenly Bodies.
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Post by RybackV1 on Nov 9, 2013 13:29:00 GMT -5
Those are some BOLD statements about Ryback. Comparing him to Justin Gabriel? Idk what's worse that or comparing Austin to Goldberg. Id be DAMNED if the Goldberg chants weren't piped in when he came back to WWE just like they were when he was in WCW. Ryback never needed sound effects to make an entire crowd scream "FEED ME MORE".
We must remember two different things. Because from my reccollectoon, Goldbergs steam blew over by Summerslam that year, and his last few months leading up to leaving the company at wm20, he was falling into irrelevancy, people were already moving on.
You say he got boos at mania 20 because the fans knew he was leaving. But wasn't it only Lesnar that the fans knew for sure was leaving? Didn't Goldberg just not resign and leave after mania? That reaction was because it was a garbage match, two unmotivated guys going through the motions because they knew they were out of the door. We can't really blame Lesnar because he could put on a great match in his sleep. So who's to blame for that debacle?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 14:23:51 GMT -5
Bryan vs HBK and Cody vs Goldust really interest me. Don't really care to see Austin vs Triple H or Sting vs Taker. Lesnar and Taker would be cool, and would actually be believable that The Streak could end. I would definitely like to see Goldberg beat the crap out of Ryback. But that's probably just me being biased cause I think Ryback sucks. Punk should face Cena for the Championship though, not Boreton. Cena and Punk have put on some classics; what better place to have them put on another one than at the 30th anniversary of 'Mania? Plus, Punk could finally get what he deserves and main event a WM.
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Post by HVMMONS on Nov 9, 2013 15:12:31 GMT -5
HHH v. SCSA? Control of WWE? That's kind of pointless.
Punk v. Orton? I can see this going real well.
HBK v. Bryan? The match I see that can steal the show
Lesnar v. Taker? 4/10 in my eyes.
Goldberg v. Ryback? I see no storyline here. Is Ryback going to bully Goldberg? This match would happen because of the Goldberg chants. Before this, even though people wanted Goldberg to return, he had no reason to. This is the perfect opportunity.
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Post by Nick the Quick on Nov 9, 2013 17:09:49 GMT -5
It's highly doubtful Austin will be in a match, and Sting isn't coming to WWE at this point, ship has sailed with that one. As far as the card goes, I would have it like this.
CM Punk vs. Randy Orton for the WWE Championship, set up after Punk wins the Rumble. Punk wins John Cena vs. The Undertaker. Cena loses the World Title before this, gives us a big-time match fans would want to see. Taker wins 22-0 The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar. I know it's unknown if Rock will be there, but I would have this match if he wrestles. Doesn't matter who wins to me Triple H vs. Daniel Bryan. Makes sense with the "B+ player storyline." Bryan wins by submission, Triple H shakes his hand afterwards Ryback vs. Big Show. I don't see Goldberg coming back, so this gives both of them something to do. Maybe give one of them the World Title beforehand to make it interesting instead of just a thrown together match Ryback wins.
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Post by k5 on Nov 9, 2013 17:40:28 GMT -5
goldust/cody was needed! goldust has been great
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Nov 9, 2013 19:05:58 GMT -5
It looks more like a bunch of guesswork to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 20:08:47 GMT -5
Honestly, Lesnar-Taker is the only interesting thing. D-Bry? Idc. CM Punk? If it was Summer of 2011 I would care. Ryback? No. Goldberg? Idc. Sting? He can barely take a bump.
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 9, 2013 20:25:25 GMT -5
I have never, now or ever, had any desire to see Sting vs Taker. There is absolutely no connection between the two except they both wear black.
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Nov 9, 2013 21:43:51 GMT -5
Well if thats some of the top matches for Wrestlemania I would be extremely interested.I would buy the show souly based on Bryan/HBK and Undertaker/Sting two dream matches of mine.Now that would be my ideal card that they have layed out but again is pretty damn awesome even with alot of those guys getting or already having their AARP cards.If this goes down as planed I wonder were this leave Cena,Triple H,Brock...ect I would go the route of having Cena teaming up with a returning Hulk Hogan going up against Triple H and Brock Lesnar.
Randy Orton .Vs CM Punk-WWE Title The Undertaker .Vs Sting Daniel Bryan .Vs Shawn Michaels John Cena and Hulk Hogan .Vs Triple H and Brock Lesnar(my suggestion) Goldberg .Vs Ryback Cody Rhodes .Vs Goldust
Thats a stacked card that in terms of star power would be the biggest Wrestlemania yet.You throw in something like Ambrose/Jericho and a tag team match up with The Shield/Real Americans/Usos or some mix like that and that could be one hell of a show.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 22:13:37 GMT -5
I hope Sting, Austin and Goldberg show up. The card will feel like a HUGE card if they do.
1. I have ZERO interest in seeing Austin/Triple H. Hunter is so bland. His name should be the Vanilla Nose.
2. If Sting goes over, then I'm good, but I have no interest in him coming in to make 'Taker look good.
3. Great idea. I would love to see the match and would mark out hearing Goldberg's music when he returns.
4. I have no interest in Punk/Orton. Cena/Punk NEEDS to be the main event.
5. I couldn't be more excited for Bryan/HBK.
6. I would rather see Cody turn on Goldust. I think that would make more sense considering how over Goldust is at the moment.
7. I wouldn't mind Big Show and Triple H.
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 9, 2013 22:23:56 GMT -5
I can see:
Brock vs Taker Punk vs Orton (Punk wins Rumble) Big Show vs Ryback John Cena vs Sheamus Triple H vs Bryan Cody vs Goldust Ambrose vs Reigns vs Rollins
Add a tag team match and a Divas match and that's about the card. Sting and Goldberg feel like distant dirt sheet bullish*t at this point. And HBK is not wrestling again imo. Throw in Hulk Hogan to be a special guest referee or serve as a guest host and you've got a Mania the casual fan will buy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 22:40:31 GMT -5
Austin vs Triple H would be a HUGE waste unless it led to him facing Punk at WrestleMania 31.
I can't be the only one that doesn't want Sting and Taker, right? I'd much rather see him and Brock.
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 9, 2013 22:42:24 GMT -5
I wanna see John Cena Vs Undertaker in a streak match. I want to see Randy Orton vs Alberto Del Rio in an evening gown match
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Post by ztj_wwf on Nov 9, 2013 22:46:16 GMT -5
I have no interest in seeing Punk vs Orton. Punk vs Cena or Bryan would be better.
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Post by HHH316 on Nov 10, 2013 1:40:05 GMT -5
Honest to God, I'll get up out of my seat & use Goldberg's match for my piss break. Jesus Christ that's one long piss! Not really, the intro lasts longer than the match!
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Post by HHH316 on Nov 10, 2013 1:46:55 GMT -5
Honest to God, I'll get up out of my seat & use Goldberg's match for my piss break. How can you say you wouldnt mark if you heard those gongs hit and then Goldberg chants start and his music play, would be ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing amazing. The match might suck, but i'd want it just to see him enter one more time. I think Goldberg would win tbh if they ever had the match but, i dunno. Lesnar vs taker, sure, i'd be up for seeing it but i duno if im ok with lesnar ending it so.. Basically im not a massive fan of bringing all these old people back to make the show. Sometime soon, we need to use the new product to make it good. Sure, it would be awesome seeing goldberg, michaels, sting, etc etc but, we sooner or later need to stack the card with the current roster so that we can see these guys as the main guys that make the ppv's fun, otherwise if we dont start doing that soon, we'll always be expecting the goldbergs, brock lesnars, Stings, Stone Cold, The rock etc etc to come back, which we cant do forever. But since it WMXXX i suppose its acceptable, i just think maybe for WM XXXI i would like to see the current roster stack the card, not past wrestlers. It's an easy pass for me now. I saw him compete in person multiple times in 2003, & I admit, the intro was cool & its easy to get caught up in it. But its the old "smoke & mirrors" trick. Because once the bell rings, it all goes downhill. I've seen it enough times to have learned from it. It wasn't good in 2003, it sure as hell won't come close to that in 2013. Call me crazy, but I'd much rather see another mid carder or two make the show over a Goldberg, & that's coming from someone who doesn't mind seeing the part time main eventers at WM.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Nov 10, 2013 12:41:57 GMT -5
I'd be pissed if Austin comes back for his first match in over a decade to fight (and quite possibly put over) Triple H and not fight Punk. Save the company control match for Cena & Orton.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 12:53:30 GMT -5
I have never, now or ever, had any desire to see Sting vs Taker. There is absolutely no connection between the two except they both wear black. Sting should have at least 1 WM match. Undertaker is literally the only active guy who is on his level, and they're both synonymous with loyalty to the WCW and WWE respectively.
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