juaumguterres
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Post by juaumguterres on Nov 17, 2013 17:40:15 GMT -5
This is Velvet? I don't know anything about TNA... but she has a very beautiful smile...
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Post by PJ on Nov 17, 2013 17:42:46 GMT -5
I find it odd that people say Jakks had better scans when the same company (Gentle Giants) scan them. And many were sculpted by the same sculptors. Remember the one sculptor that was posting here for a while...before she was told to remove the pics she showed work she did for both Jakks and Mattel.
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Post by fall on Nov 17, 2013 17:44:15 GMT -5
I respect Mattel's detail they put into their figures, but they're either way too skinny/scrawny looking, or like, cartoonishly jacked. I've always collected Jakks, and yes I know, Jakks didn't always have the best details, and their cruiseweight torso and first "six pack" torso they had weren't the greatest. But the figures seem like a perfect size to me, probably just because I'm used to them. But when you put a basic Mattel next to an RA figure from Jakks, Mattel's is FAR too slim for my taste.
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Post by Chip on Nov 17, 2013 17:55:25 GMT -5
is it 2010? From my perspective...I collected any and everything Jakks. Hell when the first images of Mattels were out I wasn't that impressed. Well I've got over 600 Mattel's, and over the past 3 years have cut my Jakks collection to about 1/3 what it was....with more to go. Jakks always had a knack for headscans. But they made their mistakes. I also liked how the Jakks figures were bulky, like wrestlers...not like stick people. And Jakks never cared about "TV time" when it came to characters. They made almost everyone on the roster in a respective years time. It was amazing having sooooo many different characters. And the Classic Line? whew....one of the best action figure lines ever. But Jakks had many MANY flaws. Most of the figures had the same style of bodies. And Jakks had an infamous history of cheaping out on details. Hald painting attires, forgetting attire detail completely, or releasing figures with no detail. Some headscans were too big, or really bad looking. Even though Rey Mysterio WAS NOT TALLER THAN UNDERTAKER....he was still too tall in perspective. However Jakks never claimed to be a "scale" figure series. It never bothered me the way it did quite a few people here. Mattel however, has blown them away. Their attention to details is perfection. Almost never do we get a figure missing something. Most of their headscans are pretty damn incredible. With a few misses. Since the launch they definitley have improved. I can't picture colleting anything but Mattel now. I just wish that things weren't so expensive. Because it's very hard to continue this hobby with the atrocious pricing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 17:58:44 GMT -5
If you are a moc collector the scale really don't matter.
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Post by poolshostage on Nov 17, 2013 18:51:01 GMT -5
Still love Jakks, but I jumped on the mattel bandwagon this year.
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Post by Flair Forever on Nov 17, 2013 20:14:31 GMT -5
What a tough question!
As an avid collector of Wrestling Figures - I actually don't really discriminate between "who makes the figures." My Macho Man shelf now has figures from Hasbro, Mattel, Toy Biz, etc. My Ric Flair shelf has stuff from JAKKS, Galoob, and Hasbro.... my Hogan shelf has LJN, JAKKS, Hasbro....
I collect wrestling figures - who makes them isn't such a big deal to me.
In the 80's, it was just LJN..... LJN only made, like one figure of each wrestler, with no articulation, and that was all we ever got.... they were alright, but it was difficult to recreate matches or angles with these rubber statues.... when I was a kid, I had better matches with my G.I. Joe figures than these things.
Then the Hasbro stuff came out - it was smaller & more cartoony, which had it's charm, but didn't seem designed to recreate matches or anything like that..... more like cartoon statues for display, not actual poseable recreations of wrestlers.... once in a while, they'd come with a cool accessory (Million Dollar Belt, pet snake)....
The WCW figures always seemed kind of cheap.... I liked the Galoob stuff, but at the same time - they were just mini-statues. Not poseable at all..... most of the 90's WCW stuff that followed either seemed like a rip-off of the WWE ones, or cheap knock-offs....
In the 2000's, when JAKKS began the "Classic Superstars" line it was like heaven for us - finally, the figures we always wanted when we were kids but never got! Figures that looked like small recreations of wrestling legends from all wrestling organizations - that you could stage inter-federation matches, or just pose, with actual authentic detailed accessories.... sometimes actual cloth clothing! Not to mention that we could now have "dream matches" with guys we never were able to have when we were kids.... Wrestling fans had never been spoiled like this before!
And they were everywhere! Kay Bee toys was still going strong - it was a golden era for wrestling figure-collecting. I used to go from K Mart, to Kay Bee, to Toys R Us... and see different assortments at every store, and many more exclusives.... usually falling off the filled shelves... and a whole "clearance" section with stuff for cheap..... I love those "3 for $10" deals Kay Bee always had.... built a lot of my collection that way. I never really bothered with Wal Mart too much, they never really had good stuff.
I quit collecting for two years when JAKKS lost the WWE license. I saw the Mattel stuff, mainly Defining Moments.... and was turned off by the high price point & what seemed to be very limited selection..... and I wasn't impressed with the early Mattel WWE figures.
In 2012 I came back to the hobby I love..... following "The Summer of Punk" and an awesome Elite 16 likeness of The Best In The World brought me back....
I do believe that if JAKKS had retained the WWE contract..... the quality of their product would have continued to EVOLVE.... and improve. Look how much they changed during the duration of the JAKKS period of WWE figures! While I like Mattel's quality - I feel that JAKKS would have gotten there with a few more years.... I don't think they've put any effort into the TNA stuff, I just don't think there's enough sales dollars at stake to make them try.... I guess. I'm at a bit of a loss to explain the poor effort they've put into TNA. What do they make, like two waves per year? And they haven't even made a Bully Ray yet? What gives?
Mattel's distribution absolutely makes me yearn for the Golden Days of JAKKS though.... I can't tell you how many times I've gone into a store looking for new Mattel stuff and either find empty shelves or products I already have..... and there are MONTHS where we don't get very much new stuff at all! Now Wal Mart, who STILL rarely has any "good stuff" is one of the only places to get these figures!
Sorry for the long answer.... which I guess isn't really an answer. I like both! I wish that Mattel had the 2008 JAKKS fan dedication, distribution, & courage to take a risk on some obscure figures....
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Post by Chewdeezy on Nov 17, 2013 20:28:20 GMT -5
Mattel.
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 17, 2013 20:32:50 GMT -5
Mattel wins hands down
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 17, 2013 20:40:23 GMT -5
I think those who claim Jakks had drastically better scans than Mattel are looking back with revisionist history. Jakks was 50/50 over the years. For every great scan they would have one that was just awful. To claim otherwise makes you sound foolish. Its an opinion based question. Saying that people who prefer Jakks' scans are foolish only makes you look foolish... I'll defend my post that Jakks had better headscans. Once in a while we'd get some weird scans but for the most part they nailed the scans spot on. Sure the heads were oversized but the scans looked great. Mattel is still very hit an miss with their sculpts. For example we still haven't gotten a great Edge sculpt and he has had quite a few figures. The recent JBL has a super small head and rarely resembles the melon he actually has. The Jakks' JBL scans were great. Took Mattel years to finally nail down a good Triple H scan. Jakks had him nailed down quick. Paint apps go into sculpts as well and the recent WM29 Punk and Basic Cesaro heads show Mattel's weaknesses in sculpts and paint. Those who prefer Mattel sculpts, that's cool. Just don't throw fact less insults out at people who preferred Jakks head sculpts.
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Post by HVMMONS on Nov 17, 2013 20:45:24 GMT -5
Mattel. They're way more realistic imo
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Post by Colter on Nov 17, 2013 20:47:18 GMT -5
Mattel all day.
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Post by mrhoss on Nov 17, 2013 20:48:08 GMT -5
I find it odd that people say Jakks had better scans when the same company (Gentle Giants) scan them. And many were sculpted by the same sculptors. Remember the one sculptor that was posting here for a while...before she was told to remove the pics she showed work she did for both Jakks and Mattel. That's what I can't figure out. I prefer a lot of jakks scans/sculpts over mattel. The difference must be the painting?
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Post by Sizzle on Nov 17, 2013 20:48:52 GMT -5
M-M-M-M-Mattel!
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Post by LA Times on Nov 17, 2013 20:52:32 GMT -5
Jakks
-More wrestlers made
-More affordable
-Better distribution
-Better with bigger wrestlers
-Releases figures of wrestlers less than 12 months after they debut
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Post by marino13 on Nov 17, 2013 21:40:42 GMT -5
I think those who claim Jakks had drastically better scans than Mattel are looking back with revisionist history. Jakks was 50/50 over the years. For every great scan they would have one that was just awful. To claim otherwise makes you sound foolish. Its an opinion based question. Saying that people who prefer Jakks' scans are foolish only makes you look foolish... I'll defend my post that Jakks had better headscans. Once in a while we'd get some weird scans but for the most part they nailed the scans spot on. Sure the heads were oversized but the scans looked great. Mattel is still very hit an miss with their sculpts. For example we still haven't gotten a great Edge sculpt and he has had quite a few figures. The recent JBL has a super small head and rarely resembles the melon he actually has. The Jakks' JBL scans were great. Took Mattel years to finally nail down a good Triple H scan. Jakks had him nailed down quick. Paint apps go into sculpts as well and the recent WM29 Punk and Basic Cesaro heads show Mattel's weaknesses in sculpts and paint. Those who prefer Mattel sculpts, that's cool. Just don't throw fact less insults out at people who preferred Jakks head sculpts. Did I say anyone who perfered Jakks scans was foolish or did I say to act like they didn't have any bad scans makes someone sound foolish? Reread it, I'll wait....
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Nov 17, 2013 21:48:46 GMT -5
Most people who like Jakks more than Mattel are just nostalgic for their old figures. Looking at it from an objective point of view, I'm not sure how anyone could say the Jakks figures are better.
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Post by n2jib on Nov 17, 2013 21:50:42 GMT -5
Isn't jakks' n mattel's scan made by the same company?
Yes i think mattel is a bit on the skinny side, but i prefer it to jakks balloon biceps and body shape and i love mattels' scale.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 21:55:00 GMT -5
Mattel. They are in scale with each other, and they have many different body molds that are more realistic. Also the tattoos and other details are so much better.
Jakks does have them beat in selection of different stars, price, and (in some cases) headscans.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 22:30:24 GMT -5
I find it odd that people say Jakks had better scans when the same company (Gentle Giants) scan them. And many were sculpted by the same sculptors. Remember the one sculptor that was posting here for a while...before she was told to remove the pics she showed work she did for both Jakks and Mattel. I think they're just generalizing things - I didn't realize it was the same company/people though. I loved a good portion of Jakks sculpts, but some sculpts/scans were awful. The 'Virgil' CSTT, 123 Kid, & Bossman CS figures are especially terrible IMO (embarrassing actually). For me, it varies with which company I prefer. Mattel Bossman is leaps & bounds above Jakks. I typically favor the Jakks bodies for figures though: Mr. Perfect from Mattel being so tall & skinny…Randy Savage from 2 pack with Punk, that body is odd also IMO. I think Jakks outdid Mattel with L.O.D. & Demolition, but it really is a figure by figure answer for me. Warrior series 6 legend from Mattel prob trumps any Jakks, but the bodies for Arn Anderson & Tully…I prefer Jakks.
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