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Post by Wrigley15 on Dec 1, 2013 21:55:06 GMT -5
My buddy and I were discussing this the other day. Maybe it is just the same argument with each generation, but with the tech savy generation we are in now, social media and the virtual world has taken over our real world. We've all seen relationships end due to facebook issues with a guy or girl or what not. So many seem to just sit on their phones and text or scroll through facebook and twitter while at the dinner table, while the guy wants to conversate, but now feels like she is not interested. Overall do you guys think that the dating game is harder today? I think this could be a good discussion. If so, why do you think dating is more difficult today?
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 1, 2013 22:01:53 GMT -5
It is definitely more hard today. With 99% of people not knowing how to appreciate anything/can't put down facebook, People don't know how to talk to one another. They all want Disney style endings. The only problem is in Disney movies, the credits roll right before they live happily ever after. Everyone has a false sense of what happiness is and no way to relate to one another unless it's through drugs or brain rotting television. I find it hard to even have a conversation with most women nowadays. It's either all drama or they are as dumb as the status updates they read and reply to. I'd rather be alone than have to put up with all the unnecessary drama.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Dec 1, 2013 22:11:07 GMT -5
It is definitely more hard today. With 99% of people not knowing how to appreciate anything/can't put down facebook, People don't know how to talk to one another. They all want Disney style endings. The only problem is in Disney movies, the credits roll right before they live happily ever after. Everyone has a false sense of what happiness is and no way to relate to one another unless it's through drugs or brain rotting television. I find it hard to even have a conversation with most women nowadays. It's either all drama or they are as dumb as the status updates they read and reply to. I'd rather be alone than have to put up with all the unnecessary drama. I agree with that completely. Women want the perfect Prince Charming type Disney hero/story, yet don't really try to duplicate that by being respectful and caring. I was talking with a lady friend and I said that for dating I love going to ballgames, movies, and just hanging out around the house and even cuddling up for a movie and she was like "that is kinda boring and lackluster". Then what do they want? |
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Post by Duck Holliday on Dec 1, 2013 22:14:46 GMT -5
Supremely lame when people just want to text or whatever while on a date. Rude. It's even sadder to me when (seemingly) married couples are sitting at a table for 45mins+ on their phones instead of talking to each other.
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 1, 2013 22:32:30 GMT -5
It is definitely more hard today. With 99% of people not knowing how to appreciate anything/can't put down facebook, People don't know how to talk to one another. They all want Disney style endings. The only problem is in Disney movies, the credits roll right before they live happily ever after. Everyone has a false sense of what happiness is and no way to relate to one another unless it's through drugs or brain rotting television. I find it hard to even have a conversation with most women nowadays. It's either all drama or they are as dumb as the status updates they read and reply to. I'd rather be alone than have to put up with all the unnecessary drama. I agree with that completely. Women want the perfect Prince Charming type Disney hero/story, yet don't really try to duplicate that by being respectful and caring. I was talking with a lady friend and I said that for dating I love going to ballgames, movies, and just hanging out around the house and even cuddling up for a movie and she was like "that is kinda boring and lackluster". Then what do they want? Every boy is raised to be a warrior, and every girl is a princess. I get a kick out of these fanboy girls. They surround themselves with guy friends, who only talk to her because they crush on her and do anything she needs done for her. Only prob is she can never date any of them, because if she does she will lose all the other ones. All the guys get taken advantage of and the girl reaps the attention. Then you have the "good guys" the ones who write 7 page articles on how they are the right guy for any girl, and yet can't seem to get ahead. They refuse to be the "bunghole" and yet always gets beat by them. They put themselves into the place they are in on purpose, and don't realize that they aren't playing by the rules of society. If you're not doing what ever it is the girl wants to see, she will friend zone you and you will never move from that spot, even if yo pull her nearly lifeless body from a burning car. I don't blame either gender specifically, each have their faults and reasons why they hold themselves back. It's pretty hard to be self aware when the TV raised you and the crapyou saw on there doesn't work. Or it does and no one laugh's. |
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Dec 1, 2013 23:18:22 GMT -5
It is definitely more hard today. With 99% of people not knowing how to appreciate anything/can't put down facebook, People don't know how to talk to one another. They all want Disney style endings. The only problem is in Disney movies, the credits roll right before they live happily ever after. Everyone has a false sense of what happiness is and no way to relate to one another unless it's through drugs or brain rotting television. I find it hard to even have a conversation with most women nowadays. It's either all drama or they are as dumb as the status updates they read and reply to. I'd rather be alone than have to put up with all the unnecessary drama. This has to be the most correct assessment of relationships and dating in this tech savvy world. We all have met tons of women in our past. Some can be deem real, some are deemed fake. Either way, it doesn't really matter. I am one of those single men who is dying to be in a long-term relationship. Why am I not in one? Well, I have come across too many jaded and fake women. They expect their boyfriends to be 6ft 4in and built men. Pop culture has brainwashed too many people. The overall perception that women have towards men is they expect them to look and act a certain way. Just when I thought I met the woman of my dreams, she turned out to be a jaded, close-minded woman. When I asked her to be my girlfriend, I got rejected. While it may seem harsh but I told her I refuse to talk to you unless you are my girlfriend. I am one of those types who absolutely refuses to be in the "friend-zone." I don't want to be placed into that position because there is no progression as a result. I can't even approach a woman now like I did towards her. I couldn't care less what she is doing these days. Women expect too much but are given too little for a reason. Lower your expectations, get to know the guy for who their are, and not sound jaded. What happened to the days when men/women accept each other for who their are? Its becoming lost because of radical changes in this pop culture, tech savvy world. Makes me want to just give up and remain single till the end of time. |
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 1, 2013 23:30:51 GMT -5
It is definitely more hard today. With 99% of people not knowing how to appreciate anything/can't put down facebook, People don't know how to talk to one another. They all want Disney style endings. The only problem is in Disney movies, the credits roll right before they live happily ever after. Everyone has a false sense of what happiness is and no way to relate to one another unless it's through drugs or brain rotting television. I find it hard to even have a conversation with most women nowadays. It's either all drama or they are as dumb as the status updates they read and reply to. I'd rather be alone than have to put up with all the unnecessary drama. This has to be the most correct assessment of relationships and dating in this tech savvy world. We all have met tons of women in our past. Some can be deem real, some are deemed fake. Either way, it doesn't really matter. I am one of those single men who is dying to be in a long-term relationship. Why am I not in one? Well, I have come across too many jaded and fake women. They expect their boyfriends to be 6ft 4in and built men. Pop culture has brainwashed too many people. The overall perception that women have towards men is they expect them to look and act a certain way. Just when I thought I met the woman of my dreams, she turned out to be a jaded, close-minded woman. When I asked her to be my girlfriend, I got rejected. While it may seem harsh but I told her I refuse to talk to you unless you are my girlfriend. I am one of those types who absolutely refuses to be in the "friend-zone." I don't want to be placed into that position because there is no progression as a result. I can't even approach a woman now like I did towards her. I couldn't care less what she is doing these days. Women expect too much but are given too little for a reason. Lower your expectations, get to know the guy for who their are, and not sound jaded. What happened to the days when men/women accept each other for who their are? Its becoming lost because of radical changes in this pop culture, tech savvy world. Makes me want to just give up and remain single till the end of time. If she turns you down, NEVER stay her friend, you'll end up in the worst place you could ever be in if you truly had feelings for her to begin with. I find it amusing when Women 'fall in love' with a guy, realize they aren't the person they wanted them to be, tried to change them, couldn't, either are too afraid to leave for fear of being alone, now they both make everyone they ever meet's life a living hell because of it. If your girlfriend asks you to give something up that isn't harming anyone else, it's because she's ashamed of it, and embarrassed for you. She wants you to change the way you are so you don't make her look bad. But the fact of the matter is, she shouldn't need to show off for anyone in the first place being as she already has a man. It's like wearing a shirt with a phrase or logo printed over your breasts, and then calling every guy you see that day a pig because he looked at them. I always wondered why non classically trained female musicians were horrendous and always seemed to not "get it". I realize now that it's because they only have to be good enough to get attention and beyond that, there is no reason to strive to be better. I was born in the wrong time I guess. Things mean more to me than they do to others. Your body language is an open book, just because you say you're not a liar, does not mean you're telling the truth. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Dec 1, 2013 23:54:59 GMT -5
I 100% agree with everything everybody said. I had an ex who I would go on dates with and would always have her damn phone in her hand and at times text people while I'm trying to talk to her. I broke up with her when we went to the movies and she was texting her guy best friend during and I was pissed, because she hasn't been texting me much for a few days, so yeah I got fed up and broke it off. She also would tell me she hated the way I dress, because I wasn't dressing like her gay friends were and wearing skinny jeans. Even made fun of my hair and didn't want me to spike it up anymore like my avatar. Even lost a bunch of fake friends who liked her, but were pissed off at me, because they were jealous that I was going out with her. Anyways she wasn't at all pretty now that I realize it. She wore contacts to make her eyes hazel and had a lot of make up on. And was always working out about 4 hours a day when she only weigh about 120 pounds. I would tell her to delete her Facebook account and she would refuse. If you're in a relationship don't have a Facebook. If my future gf didn't have a Facebook then I would delete mine. And if a girl is on her phone texting while we're on a date I will just leave and move on. Not going to waste my time with someone who doesn't care.
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 2, 2013 0:12:45 GMT -5
I 100% agree with everything everybody said. I had an ex who I would go on dates with and would always have her damn phone in her hand and at times text people while I'm trying to talk to her. I broke up with her when we went to the movies and she was texting her guy best friend during and I was pissed, because she hasn't been texting me much for a few days, so yeah I got fed up and broke it off. She also would tell me she hated the way I dress, because I wasn't dressing like her gay friends were and wearing skinny jeans. Even made fun of my hair and didn't want me to spike it up anymore like my avatar. Even lost a bunch of fake friends who liked her, but were pissed off at me, because they were jealous that I was going out with her. Anyways she wasn't at all pretty now that I realize it. She wore contacts to make her eyes hazel and had a lot of make up on. And was always working out about 4 hours a day when she only weigh about 120 pounds. I would tell her to delete her Facebook account and she would refuse. If you're in a relationship don't have a Facebook. If my future gf didn't have a Facebook then I would delete mine. And if a girl is on her phone texting while we're on a date I will just leave and move on. Not going to waste my time with someone who doesn't care. Bravo, congratulations on seeing the cage we're all put in. Now wtf do we do? lmao! |
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Dec 2, 2013 0:19:10 GMT -5
This has to be the most correct assessment of relationships and dating in this tech savvy world. We all have met tons of women in our past. Some can be deem real, some are deemed fake. Either way, it doesn't really matter. I am one of those single men who is dying to be in a long-term relationship. Why am I not in one? Well, I have come across too many jaded and fake women. They expect their boyfriends to be 6ft 4in and built men. Pop culture has brainwashed too many people. The overall perception that women have towards men is they expect them to look and act a certain way. Just when I thought I met the woman of my dreams, she turned out to be a jaded, close-minded woman. When I asked her to be my girlfriend, I got rejected. While it may seem harsh but I told her I refuse to talk to you unless you are my girlfriend. I am one of those types who absolutely refuses to be in the "friend-zone." I don't want to be placed into that position because there is no progression as a result. I can't even approach a woman now like I did towards her. I couldn't care less what she is doing these days. Women expect too much but are given too little for a reason. Lower your expectations, get to know the guy for who their are, and not sound jaded. What happened to the days when men/women accept each other for who their are? Its becoming lost because of radical changes in this pop culture, tech savvy world. Makes me want to just give up and remain single till the end of time. If she turns you down, NEVER stay her friend, you'll end up in the worst place you could ever be in if you truly had feelings for her to begin with. I find it amusing when Women 'fall in love' with a guy, realize they aren't the person they wanted them to be, tried to change them, couldn't, either are too afraid to leave for fear of being alone, now they both make everyone they ever meet's life a living hell because of it. If your girlfriend asks you to give something up that isn't harming anyone else, it's because she's ashamed of it, and embarrassed for you. She wants you to change the way you are so you don't make her look bad. But the fact of the matter is, she shouldn't need to show off for anyone in the first place being as she already has a man. It's like wearing a shirt with a phrase or logo printed over your breasts, and then calling every guy you see that day a pig because he looked at them. I always wondered why non classically trained female musicians were horrendous and always seemed to not "get it". I realize now that it's because they only have to be good enough to get attention and beyond that, there is no reason to strive to be better. I was born in the wrong time I guess. Things mean more to me than they do to others. Your body language is an open book, just because you say you're not a liar, does not mean you are not one. I love the way you think. I have not spoken to her in nearly two years. I have told myself she is 100% replaceable. If she din't appreciate me, her loss. Not mine. I can tell you I have a very strong personality. I have been through too much in my life. I don't let people take advantage of me. One thing I have observed is that there are some men who are just merely pu**ywhipped in a given relationship. It should ALWAYS be 50/50, not 25/75. There are time I should be thankful for being single because I don't have to deal with somebody trying to change who I am (I refuse to let people change me), drama, and someone who will ignite the bad side of me. |
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 2, 2013 0:29:43 GMT -5
If she turns you down, NEVER stay her friend, you'll end up in the worst place you could ever be in if you truly had feelings for her to begin with. I find it amusing when Women 'fall in love' with a guy, realize they aren't the person they wanted them to be, tried to change them, couldn't, either are too afraid to leave for fear of being alone, now they both make everyone they ever meet's life a living hell because of it. If your girlfriend asks you to give something up that isn't harming anyone else, it's because she's ashamed of it, and embarrassed for you. She wants you to change the way you are so you don't make her look bad. But the fact of the matter is, she shouldn't need to show off for anyone in the first place being as she already has a man. It's like wearing a shirt with a phrase or logo printed over your breasts, and then calling every guy you see that day a pig because he looked at them. I always wondered why non classically trained female musicians were horrendous and always seemed to not "get it". I realize now that it's because they only have to be good enough to get attention and beyond that, there is no reason to strive to be better. I was born in the wrong time I guess. Things mean more to me than they do to others. Your body language is an open book, just because you say you're not a liar, does not mean you are not one. I love the way you think. I have not spoken to her in nearly two years. I have told myself she is 100% replaceable. If she din't appreciate me, her loss. Not mine. I can tell you I have a very strong personality. I have been through too much in my life. I don't let people take advantage of me. One thing I have observed is that there are some men who are just merely pu**ywhipped in a given relationship. It should ALWAYS be 50/50, not 25/75. There are time I should be thankful for being single because I don't have to deal with somebody trying to change who I am (I refuse to let people change me), drama, and someone who will ignite the bad side of me. The modern Human lives in a state of fear/shock. The ultimate goal of society seems to be to be so scared they wish to return to the womb. The most safest place seems to be bundled up in a blanket on a couch watching TV. A perfectly controlled enviornment. Women seem to focus on themselves which leads to ultimately having children at a young age. Men who latch onto their mothers seem to later latch on to female companions. They don't know what to do without that guidance and thus would rather suffer torment, than suffer loneliness. The most important part of life is always overlooked. Just be yourself. If you love yourself, you don't need some other person's confirmation that you are worthy of something. If you have problems accepting who you are, that's probably because you've filled your head with everybody's else opinions and not your own. If you can't connect with yourself, you'll never be able to connect with anyone else, and all you'll have at the end of the day is a place to stick it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 0:30:00 GMT -5
I don't know, let me ask my girlfriend.
Honey, is it harder to date now?
I wouldn't say so at all! (typed with my left hand)
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 2, 2013 0:39:43 GMT -5
I don't know, let me ask my girlfriend. Honey, is it harder to date now? I wouldn't say so at all! (typed with my left hand) You know Palmela Handerson!? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 0:42:33 GMT -5
I don't know, let me ask my girlfriend. Honey, is it harder to date now? I wouldn't say so at all! (typed with my left hand) You know Palmela Handerson!? No, her sister, Florence Handerson. She's a motherly type. |
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 2, 2013 0:45:27 GMT -5
You know Palmela Handerson!? No, her sister, Florence Handerson. She's a motherly type. I bet shes a master pastry maker. |
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Dec 2, 2013 0:46:29 GMT -5
I love the way you think. I have not spoken to her in nearly two years. I have told myself she is 100% replaceable. If she din't appreciate me, her loss. Not mine. I can tell you I have a very strong personality. I have been through too much in my life. I don't let people take advantage of me. One thing I have observed is that there are some men who are just merely pu**ywhipped in a given relationship. It should ALWAYS be 50/50, not 25/75. There are time I should be thankful for being single because I don't have to deal with somebody trying to change who I am (I refuse to let people change me), drama, and someone who will ignite the bad side of me. The modern Human lives in a state of fear/shock. The ultimate goal of society seems to be to be so scared they wish to return to the womb. The most safest place seems to be bundled up in a blanket on a couch watching TV. A perfectly controlled enviornment. Women seem to focus on themselves which leads to ultimately having children at a young age. Men who latch onto their mothers seem to later latch on to female companions. They don't know what to do without that guidance and thus would rather suffer torment, than suffer loneliness. The most important part of life is always overlooked. Just be yourself. If you love yourself, you don't need some other person's confirmation that you are worthy of something. If you have problems accepting who you are, that's probably because you've filled your head with everybody's else opinions and not your own. If you can't connect with yourself, you'll never be able to connect with anyone else, and all you'll have at the end of the day is a place to stick it. What you type is complete truth. I can assure you I am comfortable under my own skin. Accept the way I look at face value. The dynamic is becoming lost in any relationship. It is incredibly sad there are many close-minded and jaded men/women. I am at a stage in my life where very little matters except for finding ways to keep my sanity in check, keeping myself happy, and not doing things I will regret. |
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 2, 2013 0:50:13 GMT -5
The modern Human lives in a state of fear/shock. The ultimate goal of society seems to be to be so scared they wish to return to the womb. The most safest place seems to be bundled up in a blanket on a couch watching TV. A perfectly controlled enviornment. Women seem to focus on themselves which leads to ultimately having children at a young age. Men who latch onto their mothers seem to later latch on to female companions. They don't know what to do without that guidance and thus would rather suffer torment, than suffer loneliness. The most important part of life is always overlooked. Just be yourself. If you love yourself, you don't need some other person's confirmation that you are worthy of something. If you have problems accepting who you are, that's probably because you've filled your head with everybody's else opinions and not your own. If you can't connect with yourself, you'll never be able to connect with anyone else, and all you'll have at the end of the day is a place to stick it. What you type is complete truth. I can assure you I am comfortable under my own skin. Accept the way I look at face value. The dynamic is becoming lost in any relationship. It is incredibly sad there are many close-minded and jaded men/women. I am at a stage in my life where very little matters except for finding ways to keep my sanity in check, keeping myself happy, and not doing things I will regret. That's awesome man, I wish more people could learn to see like this. I'm not in the business of saving people, but damnit, if everyone else is lost, I can't have any fun! lol. |
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Post by BCizzle on Dec 2, 2013 1:05:55 GMT -5
My buddy and I were discussing this the other day. Maybe it is just the same argument with each generation, but with the tech savy generation we are in now, social media and the virtual world has taken over our real world. We've all seen relationships end due to facebook issues with a guy or girl or what not. So many seem to just sit on their phones and text or scroll through facebook and twitter while at the dinner table, while the guy wants to conversate, but now feels like she is not interested. Overall do you guys think that the dating game is harder today? I think this could be a good discussion. If so, why do you think dating is more difficult today? I think any girl who is addicted to her phone would be horrible company, so that alone makes dating more difficult, because you see women like that all the time. Dudes with bluetooths are no better, though. People do get married later and less often these days - there are more options so some people keep hoping someone better comes along. I've been hoping for someone to come along a long ass time, but I don't think I've ever found the right match - the prettiest friend I've had wasn't interested in me, and then she cut her hair and became a lesbian that I'm not even attracted to anymore. The girl that did like me that I started to really like just moved on, got married, had a kid, got divorced, and who the hell knows what else. No fairy tale romance story here. Some girls do seem to love drama, though. |
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Post by bad guy™ on Dec 2, 2013 1:19:30 GMT -5
The best part is when the girl will not talk to you when you want to talk with her because she is distracted by her phone, other friends or whatever and then when she actually wants attention she gets pissy if for some reason you cannot wait on her every whim.
And this is coming from a guy who has not had a relationship in like six years so...it has not changed much over the years I see man. Haha.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 1:20:46 GMT -5
I've only had one experience in the girlfriend department, liked her for over a year, first girl I had ever liked, finally asked her out. Things went very nice, said she had a great time. I bought her some stuff like earrings, and then she stopped talking to me after I took her home. She continued to wear the stupid earrings but never once glanced at me. I spilled out every emotion I had for her, basically in tears, on that night and she didn't even care. I was so crushed and hurt for months. Then I got drunk, cried, threw up, and now all is well.
But all those months of anxiety of wanting to ask her out isn't worth it looking back. I always got a really happy feeling/fluttery feeling in my stomach around her, but now when I see her I just feel cold and empty. Ah well.
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