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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 10:00:25 GMT -5
I'm sure(?) people have talked about this before, but why do mattel keep introducing new gimmicky figure lines, like recently Stackdown (ok, this one is cool cause lego) Slam city, power slammers etc.
Like do people actually buy these things? or am i the minority and they sell great??
Also I'm not sure if were allowed to talk about this kind of stuff, but does mattel/wwe make a lot of money off toys? (mainly talking about figures).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 10:04:26 GMT -5
I honestly thought the same thing. I only buy Basics and Elites all the other figure are stupid/pointless to me personally.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Dec 2, 2013 10:12:23 GMT -5
The stackdown stuff isn't mattel. Plus they're pretty cool. The other stuff is there to appeal to kids and parents who think they're kids will like it. My kids actually hate flex force and power slammers, but retailers think they will appeal to most of them. And ultimately, mattel has to serve the retail masters such as walmart,target and kmart. So as long as they want to devote shelf space to that stuff ,then mattel will produce it.
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Post by mrhoss on Dec 2, 2013 10:20:41 GMT -5
I think it was Daryl Depriest (spelling?), who was like Hasbro's version of Bill that said store buyer's and parents like toys with gimmicks. He was talking about GIJoe at the time, but I'm sure the same applies to wrestling.
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Post by PJ on Dec 2, 2013 10:36:32 GMT -5
Mattel caters to the retailers wants because they are who Mattel makes their profits on.
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Dec 2, 2013 11:03:35 GMT -5
I personally wished we would only get the Basic and Elite lines because if that was the case there would be more in the budget to add in even better details in the basic/Elite figures.
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Post by demetreymo90 on Dec 2, 2013 11:15:33 GMT -5
I honestly thought the same thing. I only buy Basics and Elites all the other figure are stupid/pointless to me personally. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 11:16:09 GMT -5
I personally wished we would only get the Basic and Elite lines because if that was the case there would be more in the budget to add in even better details in the basic/Elite figures. genius |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 11:16:35 GMT -5
I personally wished we would only get the Basic and Elite lines because if that was the case there would be more in the budget to add in even better details in the basic/Elite figures. genius |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 11:18:00 GMT -5
I personally wished we would only get the Basic and Elite lines because if that was the case there would be more in the budget to add in even better details in the basic/Elite figures. This x 99999999999999999999999999999999999 |
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Post by bigreddad on Dec 2, 2013 11:19:35 GMT -5
If they made a PowerSlammer or FlexForce GobblyGooker, I'd buy it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 11:38:13 GMT -5
I hate them all but rumblers are alright
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Post by KPnDC on Dec 2, 2013 12:22:34 GMT -5
I personally wished we would only get the Basic and Elite lines because if that was the case there would be more in the budget to add in even better details in the basic/Elite figures. You don't know that they'd spend more on those lines. We aren't the only consumers out there. Think of it like this... I know in the record industry, your big time artists ADELE, Gaga, Coldplay help pay for the lesser known artists. I'm thankful we get such life-like awesome toys. |
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Post by SuperJimmy12345 on Dec 2, 2013 12:37:29 GMT -5
You people do realize the budget would be exactly the same for Basic/Elites no matter how many other lines unless they want to up the prices or make a loss.
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Post by Emma F'n Lution on Dec 2, 2013 12:37:47 GMT -5
I will never buy a rumbler, power-slammer, flexforce, stackdown or any of that BS ever!
Rumblers - why spend that on a piece of harldy articulated junk, when you could save up a little more for a basic or elite?
Power-slammer - Looks like a toy having an epileptic fit...Seriously, thats not what we see on TV (unless you're talking about Sin Cara)
Flexforce - They stopped making them because no-one wanted them anymore... The Eva Marie of all action figures
Stackdown - Again, save for a basic/elite -_-
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Dec 2, 2013 14:07:12 GMT -5
I personally wished we would only get the Basic and Elite lines because if that was the case there would be more in the budget to add in even better details in the basic/Elite figures. You don't know that they'd spend more on those lines. We aren't the only consumers out there. Think of it like this... I know in the record industry, your big time artists ADELE, Gaga, Coldplay help pay for the lesser known artists. I'm thankful we get such life-like awesome toys. I wasn't saying I was ungrateful or anything. I'm VERY pleased with Mattel's efforts but it was just a thought. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 14:13:13 GMT -5
They probably make them for kids. I mean, kids are the target audience so why not make toys to cater towards that audience. I'm way past childhood (despite the fact that my intelligence would make you think otherwise.) so I don't buy those things, but it doesn't irritate me that they make them. I will buy the Stack Down stuff though, even though that's not Mattel.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 3, 2013 0:16:32 GMT -5
I personally wished we would only get the Basic and Elite lines because if that was the case there would be more in the budget to add in even better details in the basic/Elite figures. No, there wouldn't. You only think that because you don't know how money works. According to Toysrus.com, the prices are: Elite figure: $16.99 Power Slammer: $12.98 Rumblers Rampage: $5.99 So that's a total of $36 income from selling one of each. Now let's say that the design, production, distribution and marketing cost of the figure is roughly 50% of the sale price (this percentage is purely for demonstration purposes, but the end point will be the same). So to get those figures on a shelf costs: Elite: $8.50 Power Slammer: $6.50 Rumblers Rampage: $3 Which means that for selling one of each of those lines, Mattel would come away with a profit of $18. Now, if Mattel suddenly decided "LET'S JUST USE THE MONEY FOR POWER SLAMMERS AND RUMBLERS RAMPAGE IN THE ELITE LINE." This would mean that now for one elite figure, the design, production, distribution and marketing cost of the figure is $18. Whatever the real percentage and production cost is, those retail prices are the important thing and the point remains: By folding a Power Slammer and Rumbler figure budget into an elite figure, Mattel would have to sell one elite figure for $36 to make the same amount of profit that they currently make from selling one elite + one power slammer + one rumblers rampage.Nobody wants elite figures to be $36. They're already close enough to perfect that we don't need to be paying double the amount for slight improvements. What improvements would even be made? CM Punk could get a t-shirt as an accessory. That's not worth a $36 retail price tag (or $50-70 on RSC) per elite figure. Elite 17 John Cena, Elite 23 John Cena, Elite 25 Sin Cara, Elite 24 The Miz, and so many other figures are already perfect as is, so paying $36 for them would be a waste. And casual buyers wouldn't touch them at those prices -- the failure of the Defining Moments proves this. It's not feasible, and it's not even an attractive prospect for us collectors. If everyone at Mattel got a knock on the head and did suddenly decide elites were going to add the power slammer and rumbler budget and thus cost $36 at retail, they would take even less chances character-wise than they do now. There'd be even more Cenas, more Kanes, more Big Shows, more Mysterios. If stores stopped ordering products like Power Slammers, Slam City and Super Strikers, all that would happen is those lines would no longer exist and Mattel would no longer be spending or making money from them... And inevitably, they would soon be replaced by something similar. Because Mattel always wants to produce new lines, new revenue streams, new segments, and retailers are always looking for new WWE-licensed toy lines to sell. You people do realize the budget would be exactly the same for Basic/Elites no matter how many other lines unless they want to up the prices or make a loss. I'm glad someone gets it. |
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Post by Jeremiah on Dec 3, 2013 0:47:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 4:22:42 GMT -5
This guy gets it! Obviously aced economics in high school lol.
I know this isn't a proper solution, but why don't parents stop buying the bs and buy basics/elites for their kids. What fun is there with shitty power slammers anyway?
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