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Post by Emma F'n Lution on Dec 4, 2013 18:41:37 GMT -5
Hmm well lets be honest: - A lot ofpeople were still into JAKKS CS, why pay more for a toy and give up a whole collection? - People werestill collecting JAKKS, they didn't want MATTEL - They put in some useless people like Kerry and Kevin Von Erich, Rick Martel etc. who shoudln't have been released so soon! However now, alot of kids actually are becoming collectors , its kinda crazy. I saw one kid before pick up a E23 Machoman, Rosa Mendes and E22 Giant because they were 'going to be rare' I mean seriously, kids would buy these. UK sellers didn't want them because MATTEL just got the line, and if they didn't sell, well TRU would have a ton of basics, elites, legends etc. on the shelves no one would want, but now, UK knows they'll sell so they'd probably take them! PLEASE RE-TRY MATTEL  |
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 4, 2013 20:36:51 GMT -5
Legends sold like hot cakes around here.....until that dreaded Hall of Fame series.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 20:50:46 GMT -5
For me I didn't want to start all over but when I seen Ricky the dragon I was sold.
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Post by naparo01 on Dec 4, 2013 21:50:05 GMT -5
I've been curious about this for a while and have come up with multiple conclusions. 1. They came at a time when everyone was collecting Jakks for years. 2. Certain attire choices (Iron Sheik, Jimmy Snuka, SGT Slaughter, and Terry Funk come to mind) 3. Poor distribution. 4. Higher price (everyone was used to paying lower for Jakks figures.) I wasn't into the line at the time it came out, so why do you think- or what was the actual reason..that legends were a flop? GOod points. I also think because mattel in addition to being more expensive put a lot out in a short time. We had elites, basics, 2 packs, legends, legends 2 packs, entrance greats, while still having jakks lingering and the Jakks Legends line. I remember being financially overwhelmed with the mass of figures being released. |
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Post by BCizzle on Dec 4, 2013 23:19:36 GMT -5
Like PJ said, overproduction was the biggest problem. Mattel wanted to sell a ton of figures, with a higher price tag, and it didn't work. They were great figures, they just didn't sell as much as Mattel wanted them to sell. Which happens with a lot of their lines. And selling a 2-pack for $30, no discount for buying multiple figures, was bad, too.
I hate the complaints about the attires of Snuka and Sarge. Those two figures killed the entire line? Yeah, right. Changing things up from what Jakks made was fine - a few whining fanboys didn't put a big dent in sales.
The HOF series was lame as hell, though, now THAT helped kill the line.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 23:48:35 GMT -5
Because there isn't a market for a high-priced, high-quality legends line. Collectors were used to the cheap, poor-quality legends figures that Jakks did, didn't want to restart legends collections, and so the figures rotted on shelves until they got to $3 clearance stores. I think you nailed it. I also think they would kill if mattel took another try at it And sell them how? Retailers don't want them. Mattel doesn't just magic these things onto shelves. Retailers have to order them. Retailers stopped ordering legends figures. I agree with you that retail doesn't see any reason to order, even with flashbacks doing well. They could possibly have an all flashback series here or there, but we won't get another legends line. I know that I wasn't going to replace my Jakks. So, I didn't get anything new until DM Ricky Steamboat….then I caved & got some I had with Jakks, but not a lot. I was glad for a slower pace of collecting tbh, I couldn't afford to keep up. |
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Post by PJ on Dec 5, 2013 4:49:04 GMT -5
While I doubt it they could possibly pitch another Legends line at retail maybe we could see something at Toy Fair. But I think they might try another series or two FB waves like E23 to see how they moved before they'd give it serious thought.
Personally seeing there's really not many modern guys (if any) who would have the selling power in Elite form at retail I hope they start upping the FB's per wave from 1-3 per set.
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Post by perfectlyrude on Dec 5, 2013 6:10:13 GMT -5
I've been curious about this for a while and have come up with multiple conclusions. 1. They came at a time when everyone was collecting Jakks for years. 2. Certain attire choices (Iron Sheik, Jimmy Snuka, SGT Slaughter, and Terry Funk come to mind) 3. Poor distribution. 4. Higher price (everyone was used to paying lower for Jakks figures.) I wasn't into the line at the time it came out, so why do you think- or what was the actual reason..that legends were a flop? You nailed it #1. Sooo many people were indifferent about Mattel at the time, and didn't want to let go of Jakks. At this point every WWE figure collector is now on board with the Mattel WWE product line. Keeping "flashbacks" as a subset in Elite is a HUGE profit loss for Mattel. They have to be aware of this, but as collectors we have to keep it in their ear at every opportunity. Flashback needs its own line of 6 to be released simultaneously with Elite. One thing Jakks had right was giving us all a list of 50 legends possibilities and we'd check which 6 or 8 we wanted, then we would ACTUALLY see those classic superstars in the next series. |
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Post by AmbroseBeforeHoes on Dec 5, 2013 9:03:13 GMT -5
I'm sure with 2-3 years of super strong sales from the line they could swing it. From where though?! What do you class as 'strong sales'? Oh, you mean all the people who bought the elite scale ring that made it such a success? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 10:01:45 GMT -5
I'm sure with 2-3 years of super strong sales from the line they could swing it. From where though?! What do you class as 'strong sales'? Oh, you mean all the people who bought the elite scale ring that made it such a success? No I mean instead of releasing all this s%#t the first year in. After 2011-2012-2013 try it Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't this past summer or sometime they said Mattel WWE was the hottest selling toy line. More than Star Wars, GI Joe, Transformers, etc. That may have been for calander year 2012 IDK that is what I would consider a success. Don't know about you |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 10:10:08 GMT -5
Because the Largest Target Demographic for a legends line is the teens who grew up in the attitude era. None of that was Used for this line? Come on your telling me that at wrestlings highest point you are not going to start with that...Ok good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 18:55:27 GMT -5
not to mention the ecnomy went to REAL CRAP right around the time KJakks got done. I remeber when Mattel Legends sereis 1 was released. 75% of my friends and family were losing jobs, taking pay cuts, and struggling hard. I remember thinking to myself when I saw the prices and knowing what was going on with the economy this was a bad time to start a line.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 18:57:59 GMT -5
and as many have said, the TRUS's by me got SOOOOOOOOOO many of the series 1 tag teams which were horrible choices to begin with. they must have got 20-30 cases of these things.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 18:59:34 GMT -5
and when people are paying the prices they arenow for legends and flashbacks that shows the line is wanted and will sell.
FLASHBACK ONLY LINE: 4 figs per set. 4 sets per year would have been perfect.
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