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Post by Doomrider on Dec 5, 2013 18:12:20 GMT -5
I'm definitely more interested in the portrayal of the characters over their actual appearances. I hated how The Lizard looked in the first one, but really enjoyed Rhys Ifans' performance.
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Post by johnnyb on Dec 5, 2013 18:32:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 18:57:05 GMT -5
I hated the first one, but this one has me interested. I like the idea of multiple villains because it fits Spiderman but I just worry about how they'll handle each of them.
I don't mind the Goblin's look at all, I know people want the purple/green with hood like they want Wolverine in yellow spandex but you have to accept these changes, they fit within the movies adaptation.
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Post by Quanthor on Dec 5, 2013 19:12:09 GMT -5
I wasn't big on the last one. It had it's moments, but they pulled at the heart strings way too much and it was all so just cute, corny and adorable. The comedy was very TGIF worthy too. I didn't like the disheveled cool guy Garfield Peter Parker either. With the same dude behind the lens I doubt those elements will change. Webb is a sucker for the melodramatic.
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Post by Quanthor on Dec 5, 2013 19:47:12 GMT -5
There's also a Dr. Morbius file too I reckon.
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Post by Suckasays on Dec 5, 2013 20:18:56 GMT -5
Loved the first one personally. I actually like the idea that Oscorp is the epicenter of all the evil in Spidey's life. I AM concerned about villain overkill. If this was a sinister Six movie once all 6 villains were established then the amount of villains is understandable. But trying to cram 3 villains in at once seems a bit much. That is unless they just open the film with the Rhino stuff or something like. Then again, it may be easier to tell all the stories of the villains with the Oscorp tie in. Who knows. I can't really say how it's going to go from the trailer. I will say that it definitely looks like a big chunk of eye candy. So that's a plus.
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Post by Jamie on Dec 5, 2013 20:28:18 GMT -5
Doesn't look too flash. Casting could be a lot better.
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Post by johnnyb on Dec 5, 2013 21:01:27 GMT -5
Here's another look at the Doc Ock and Vulture from the trailer.
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Post by JTG on Dec 5, 2013 22:41:11 GMT -5
The trailer was really good and the overall movie looks way bigger in scope. I'm looking forward to Jamie Fox's turn as Electro, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't skeptical about having three fairly major villains in the movie. Then again, it is being billed as the beginning of his biggest challenge so it'd make sense for him to have a number of challenges to face.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 6:27:17 GMT -5
a couple of months back in the Marvel thread I suggested a storyline for the Venom angle....and in there I reckoned Venom should be something that was created at or found by & stored at Oscorp.its the way to go.
and yeah its great that Oscorp is the epicentre of all the crap in Spideys life.makes for good stories ahead IMO.
I marked a l;ittle bit when I seen Ocks arms and Vultures wings.....
plea to Webb: please make Otto Octavious the creep he is in the comics and not a 50% bad guy like Raimi made him.
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Post by T R W on Dec 6, 2013 7:52:12 GMT -5
Loved the first one personally. I actually like the idea that Oscorp is the epicenter of all the evil in Spidey's life. I AM concerned about villain overkill. If this was a sinister Six movie once all 6 villains were established then the amount of villains is understandable. But trying to cram 3 villains in at once seems a bit much. That is unless they just open the film with the Rhino stuff or something like. Then again, it may be easier to tell all the stories of the villains with the Oscorp tie in. Who knows. I can't really say how it's going to go from the trailer. I will say that it definitely looks like a big chunk of eye candy. So that's a plus. I feel the same way. I even liked the latest one over the Raimi films. Plus, I really enjoy looking at Emma Stone. But I am worried about there being too many villains to make any of them interesting and that the movie might be a mess. But I am excited to see it.
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Post by Brad on Dec 6, 2013 9:22:09 GMT -5
I saw a rough version of this a couple months ago and thought it looked like crap. Literally the only improvement that they've made is that he has a decent suit on, too bad the guy wearing it is very possibly the poorest casting job done on a comic character of all time. And christ, the casting job on Harry is just absolutely dreadful. Emma Stone was the only good thing (as Gwen) in the first film, looks like that'll be the case again. And the CGI looks crap, too. Bitch bitch bitch
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Dec 6, 2013 9:33:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 11:16:48 GMT -5
I saw a rough version of this a couple months ago and thought it looked like crap. Literally the only improvement that they've made is that he has a decent suit on, too bad the guy wearing it is very possibly the poorest casting job done on a comic character of all time. And christ, the casting job on Harry is just absolutely dreadful. Emma Stone was the only good thing (as Gwen) in the first film, looks like that'll be the case again. And the CGI looks crap, too. Bitch bitch bitch I can't help it if the film looks like a huge dog turd. Spiderman 2 (Raimi) was a masterpiece.
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Post by Brad on Dec 6, 2013 11:38:14 GMT -5
I can't help it if the film looks like a huge dog turd. Spiderman 2 (Raimi) was a masterpiece. I much prefer AG in the role of Spidey. But I do like the original Spiderman films.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 11:50:40 GMT -5
I can't help it if the film looks like a huge dog turd. Spiderman 2 (Raimi) was a masterpiece. I much prefer AG in the role of Spidey. But I do like the original Spiderman films. That's up to you. Personally I found Garfield to be a terrible casting choice, and has absolutely no quality that resembles Peter Parker.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Dec 6, 2013 11:54:20 GMT -5
I used to love the original Spider-Man movies and thought the new one was gonna be worthless and that Andrew Garfield was gonna suck so bad as Spidey, but I was wrong. Not only did I love the new one a million times more than the originals, Andrew Garfield's performance made me hate Tobey McGuire with a passion.
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Post by Brad on Dec 6, 2013 11:56:36 GMT -5
I used to love the original Spider-Man movies and thought the new one was gonna be worthless and that Andrew Garfield was gonna suck so bad as Spidey, but I was wrong. Not only did I love the new one a million times more than the originals Same here
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 12:03:01 GMT -5
I used to love the original Spider-Man movies and thought the new one was gonna be worthless and that Andrew Garfield was gonna suck so bad as Spidey, but I was wrong. Not only did I love the new one a million times more than the originals, Andrew Garfield's performance made me hate Tobey McGuire with a passion. I guess it depends on how you like Spiderman. I like him best when he was first invented. Toby McGuire looks almost identical to how Ditko originally drew him, and he embodies the "nerd" perfectly. He's believable as Spiderman, he's an average looking guy which was perfect, even his voice fit the character well. The stories were also infinitely better in the OT. Garfield is a pretty boy, and more closely resembles how Peter is drawn today. He's essentially a "hipster" version of Spiderman. Modern Marvel comics are absolutely awful (with the exception of the first 5 Marvel Zombies issues) and has been since the early 00s. The ASM film had a very "Ultimate Marvel" feel to it, and it really doesn't get worse than Ultimate Marvel. Even Emma Stone said Garfield wasn't a very good Spiderman.
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Post by Brad on Dec 6, 2013 12:13:03 GMT -5
I used to love the original Spider-Man movies and thought the new one was gonna be worthless and that Andrew Garfield was gonna suck so bad as Spidey, but I was wrong. Not only did I love the new one a million times more than the originals, Andrew Garfield's performance made me hate Tobey McGuire with a passion. I guess it depends on how you like Spiderman. I like him best when he was first invented. Toby McGuire looks almost identical to how Ditko originally drew him, and he embodies the "nerd" perfectly. He's believable as Spiderman, he's an average looking guy which was perfect, even his voice fit the character well. The stories were also infinitely better in the OT. Garfield is a pretty boy, and more closely resembles how Peter is drawn today. He's essentially a "hipster" version of Spiderman. Modern Marvel comics are absolutely awful (with the exception of the first 5 Marvel Zombies issues) and has been since the early 00s. The ASM film had a very "Ultimate Marvel" feel to it, and it really doesn't get worse than Ultimate Marvel. Even Emma Stone said Garfield wasn't a very good Spiderman.Where and when did she say this? As for me. I don't come at these types of movies as a comic book fan. I was never introduced to them as a child. I come at them as someone who since discovering the movie genre (comic book moves in general) does love the characters and storytelling but is still first and foremost a movie fan. So I'm naturally going to look at it differently than you. I guess it doesn't make either of us wrong.
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