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Post by naparo01 on Dec 10, 2013 22:10:39 GMT -5
I never thought of this but since RS has outsourced their own chairs and a few accessories packs why not rings. There have been many 3rd party rings throughout the history of wrestling figures.
For me to be most interested I would prefer the ring to be scaled down with thinner posts like the RSR. I think at this point people would even be happy with a ring that was all plastic as long as it was in better scale thna the basic ring. That thing is near impossible to play with. I mean it takes pure precision to execute a safe suplex.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 10, 2013 22:13:53 GMT -5
Just because Mattel charged $70 or whatever it was at retail doesn't mean that's the lowest they could've gone at the time. It depends on their profit margin.
Now that that's out of the way, since 2010, they've claimed that the cost of cloth goods has gone way up. It's pretty apparent if you look at the Elite line. The ESR uses a lot of cloth, so I imagine if they WERE to do an exclusive with Ringside, on top of it being a shorter run, it'd HAVE to be more even if they lowered the profit margin due to the costs rising. Not to mention that thing being expensive to ship. Either way, it's too much of a risk.
I can remember using my Jakks BCA Monster Ring all throughout TTL and the start of RA due to the size of it. My cousin and I used to always talk about how cool it'd be if they made bigger rings - he used the Metal Vengeance Arena ring and always wanted to use my Monster Ring when I'd bring it over. There's absolutely a market for a bigger ring beyond collectors. Nobody likes a cramped ring. But at the asking price pushing closer to $100, that's asking a lot to make it successful.
What we need is a nice in-between model that doesn't use cloth for the ring mat, with simpler turnbuckles/posts. The aprons could be that super thin material they used for the Jakks Real Sounds Arena; they're actually stick-on aprons that can be lifted, but not cloth to save on costs. The size has to be significantly smaller than the ESR, but it has to be large enough to where they can market it as a premium ring for more action or whatever. If they can do that for $35 at retail, or maybe $45 with a Basic ref or something, that'd be pretty enticing.
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Post by Chewdeezy on Dec 10, 2013 22:17:35 GMT -5
Pass.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 10, 2013 22:40:04 GMT -5
I never thought of this but since RS has outsourced their own chairs and a few accessories packs why not rings. There have been many 3rd party rings throughout the history of wrestling figures. For me to be most interested I would prefer the ring to be scaled down with thinner posts like the RSR. I think at this point people would even be happy with a ring that was all plastic as long as it was in better scale thna the basic ring. That thing is near impossible to play with. I mean it takes pure precision to execute a safe suplex. Meh... Not a ring. I am suprised they haven't tried a cage. I need to hit you up for a ESR WWF 1993 ring conversion.
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Post by oneil4life on Dec 10, 2013 22:44:37 GMT -5
I had the elite scale ring, it was too big, not scale at all. Its actually bigger then the Jakks ring, which it was about the right size for the most part. I agree it would be nice to have some additional ringside addon's as exlusives. If the average figure is 6-7 inches, the ring should be no bigger then 20-21 inches. That is my issue, the elite was to big, and the basic is way to small. I wish they would make a basic that is slightly bigger.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 22:52:31 GMT -5
Just because Mattel charged $70 or whatever it was at retail doesn't mean that's the lowest they could've gone at the time. It depends on their profit margin. Now that that's out of the way, since 2010, they've claimed that the cost of cloth goods has gone way up. It's pretty apparent if you look at the Elite line. The ESR uses a lot of cloth, so I imagine if they WERE to do an exclusive with Ringside, on top of it being a shorter run, it'd HAVE to be more even if they lowered the profit margin due to the costs rising. Not to mention that thing being expensive to ship. Either way, it's too much of a risk. I can remember using my Jakks BCA Monster Ring all throughout TTL and the start of RA due to the size of it. My cousin and I used to always talk about how cool it'd be if they made bigger rings - he used the Metal Vengeance Arena ring and always wanted to use my Monster Ring when I'd bring it over. There's absolutely a market for a bigger ring beyond collectors. Nobody likes a cramped ring. But at the asking price pushing closer to $100, that's asking a lot to make it successful. What we need is a nice in-between model that doesn't use cloth for the ring mat, with simpler turnbuckles/posts. The aprons could be that super thin material they used for the Jakks Real Sounds Arena; they're actually stick-on aprons that can be lifted, but not cloth to save on costs. The size has to be significantly smaller than the ESR, but it has to be large enough to where they can market it as a premium ring for more action or whatever. If they can do that for $35 at retail, or maybe $45 with a Basic ref or something, that'd be pretty enticing. your a genius, I tottaly agree. There needs to be an in between ring that's not a basic ring but not 22 inches. By the way I also use to have the monster ring
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2013 7:24:06 GMT -5
Mattel just do what you did in the beginning, expect this time copy The JAKKS Monster Ring instead and add the spring tech to it.
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Post by RV F'N D on Dec 11, 2013 8:17:15 GMT -5
I was lucky enough to score an ESR from amazon for around $60 two years ago. I love it, but it does take up alot of room. It also isn't the best as far as play for little kids, the one I found at big lots went to my nephew, and he's torn it up a bit and lost a bunch of the pieces. Makes me sad looking at it now lol. The basic spring rings are hot ing garbage though, and too small to eally do much in. A bigger, more basic kid friendly ring is way overdue. 18x18 or even 16x16 would work. No need for cloth, or springs. It's too easy, no excuses.
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Post by TheChosen1 on Dec 11, 2013 9:28:21 GMT -5
Nope
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Post by tampatoys813 on Dec 11, 2013 9:57:33 GMT -5
ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN GUYS. You guys need to realize that a $80 ring will never, EVER sell. Ringside would have to order like 10,000 or more for it to be worth it... that's not going to happen folks. A $30 price point at a closeout store is what happened the first time out. $30 is about the right price for that set and the only reason why people purchased it at higher prices is because everybody knew the set was already discontinued. Ask yourself, would you have paid so much for yours if you knew it was not discontinued???
The ESR is and never will be a good business decision. Ringside and Mattel have to do, what's best for business (lol)
Plus I agree with Delta Zero, that ring is WAAAY too big and never looked right to me....
I for one, and a lot hell of a lot of parents would NEVER, EEEVER buy a ring, just a ring for $80, no matter how "Elite" it is....
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Post by wwetna2008 on Dec 11, 2013 9:57:53 GMT -5
I do agree on size it cojld be scaled alil smaller that may even help on costs and hell ya i would buy a off brand from ringside if it were bigger that the basic doesnt have to be wwe for me to use it just a good solid ring.
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Post by wrestlingfan2011 on Dec 11, 2013 15:07:38 GMT -5
No is to much price and specially the shipping, they should make add-ons and sell them at the mattel shop store.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Dec 11, 2013 15:54:10 GMT -5
16x16 or 18x18 would be a nice upgrade over any basic ring.
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Post by raVen™ on Dec 11, 2013 20:48:16 GMT -5
I'm down.
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Post by Cordaro on Dec 11, 2013 20:54:11 GMT -5
i'm fine with the one i got i paid 80 i would really like a Cell And Chamber add on tho.
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Post by dakis on Dec 11, 2013 21:02:16 GMT -5
I didn't collect when it came out so I had to pay threw the teeth for mine. I would definitely buy one. Even if it was $100 bucks as long as it came with some cool accessories. My ultimate goal is 2 have 3 elites and make WW3 like wcw used to have.
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