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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 1, 2014 22:48:09 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one mentioned the Rocket, the Black Hart, the late Owen Hart and the Loose Cannon, Flyin Brian Pillman.
Also surprised that Hassan wasn't mentioned too much.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 2:49:56 GMT -5
I didn't mention Owen because I genuinely feel he hadn't got "it".Bret did TROJAN work with him during their feud but he was only a topliner because Bret wanted him there.after the feud?he slipped back to the midcard and was unable to keep his momentum up.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Jan 2, 2014 3:12:25 GMT -5
My first thought for a "what if" guy is Buff Bagwell. He had everything you want in a top superstar. He was insanely over with the fans (as a face and heel), had a great look, was very charismatic, and had a finisher that got huge pops out of the crowd. WCW missed their chance to launch Bagwell into the stratosphere when they brought him back as a heel after his broken neck. They could have, and should have, brought him back as the biggest comeback babyface in their company's history, other than Sting, obviously. But when they had him turn heel on Rick Steiner as yet another lame WCW swerve, they might as well have just folded their tent. I say without much fear of exaggeration that Bagwell could have been that next complementary breakthrough star that could have at least helped keep the company alive for a while longer. I'm not sure that he could have been a guy that you could build shows around and sell pay-per-views with as a headliner, but he definitely could have done an odd main event here or there and at least been a pretty big upper mid-card draw. By the time they realized that Bagwell was potentially a great babyface, they already missed their shot and were hopelessly behind in the ratings war. I wonder sometimes if they could have held on a little while longer if the Bagwell return would have been handled properly. Except for that little problem that he didn't know a heel-hook from a pair of his hooker groupie's lucky pumps.
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 2, 2014 7:48:36 GMT -5
How about the dynamite kid. If he wasn't a roided up douchebag who had destroyed his body before getting to WWF he would of been one of the best ever
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Jan 2, 2014 9:33:07 GMT -5
Owen Mr.Perfect Brock
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 9:39:21 GMT -5
How about the dynamite kid. If he wasn't a roided up douchebag who had destroyed his body before getting to WWF he would of been one of the best ever Good pick. Dynamite Kid was just 20 years too soon. If Dynamite kid was around in 2003 instead of 1983 then he would have been a much bigger deal. I wish he would've stayed off the roids though as that's what really ruined his career. His frame was too unnaturally big from the steroids which caused further injury from the bumps he was taking. Plus...he's a nut.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 2, 2014 10:49:30 GMT -5
My first thought for a "what if" guy is Buff Bagwell. He had everything you want in a top superstar. He was insanely over with the fans (as a face and heel), had a great look, was very charismatic, and had a finisher that got huge pops out of the crowd. WCW missed their chance to launch Bagwell into the stratosphere when they brought him back as a heel after his broken neck. They could have, and should have, brought him back as the biggest comeback babyface in their company's history, other than Sting, obviously. But when they had him turn heel on Rick Steiner as yet another lame WCW swerve, they might as well have just folded their tent. I say without much fear of exaggeration that Bagwell could have been that next complementary breakthrough star that could have at least helped keep the company alive for a while longer. I'm not sure that he could have been a guy that you could build shows around and sell pay-per-views with as a headliner, but he definitely could have done an odd main event here or there and at least been a pretty big upper mid-card draw. By the time they realized that Bagwell was potentially a great babyface, they already missed their shot and were hopelessly behind in the ratings war. I wonder sometimes if they could have held on a little while longer if the Bagwell return would have been handled properly. Except for that little problem that he didn't know a heel-hook from a pair of his hooker groupie's lucky pumps. You are easily the worst member of this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 11:06:51 GMT -5
Dynamite Kid really suffered from a lack of personality. I don't think I could name someone worse on the Mic than him. If he came along now, it'd be a different story.
I agree with Buff Bagwell too, he could have been huge. I'm still surprised that Vince let him go when he was easily the most well known WCW star that arrived on the scene at the start of the invasion.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 2, 2014 14:12:05 GMT -5
Bagwell shot himself in the foot with his bad attitude.
After Brock I'd say Hassan is high on the list.
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 2, 2014 14:15:03 GMT -5
Dynamite Kid really suffered from a lack of personality. I don't think I could name someone worse on the Mic than him. If he came along now, it'd be a different story. I agree with Buff Bagwell too, he could have been huge. I'm still surprised that Vince let him go when he was easily the most well known WCW star that arrived on the scene at the start of the invasion. Brett hart wasn't much better. Let's face it we might as well give anyone that broke out of stampede a pass. While get were all solid technicians none of them really wowed on the mic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 14:17:48 GMT -5
Dynamite Kid really suffered from a lack of personality. I don't think I could name someone worse on the Mic than him. If he came along now, it'd be a different story. I agree with Buff Bagwell too, he could have been huge. I'm still surprised that Vince let him go when he was easily the most well known WCW star that arrived on the scene at the start of the invasion. Brett hart wasn't much better. Let's face it we might as well give anyone that broke out of stampede a pass. While get were all solid technicians none of them really wowed on the mic. Bret's mic skills are severely under rated. He wasn't great at the start but by 1997 he was amazing. DK was always terrible on the mic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 14:20:27 GMT -5
Bret was fine on the mic and in 1997 he was one of the best promo men in pro wrestling.
He was better than Warrior who would yell and ramble on about starships and spacemen.
This dumping on "Brett" in every post stuff is getting old.
Also, I've never seen a Dynamite Kid promo but I'm sure they sucked. Like Davey Boy, I could see him winning the Royal Rumble simply because he's bizzare.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Jan 2, 2014 14:44:10 GMT -5
Except for that little problem that he didn't know a heel-hook from a pair of his hooker groupie's lucky pumps. You are easily the worst member of this forum. What makes you say that? Bagwell is the quintessential example of what's wrong with Professional Wrestling. He had no amateur background, no appreciation of the history, & piss poor in-ring ability to top off his atrocious repertoire. Even as what I refer to as a "Theateical worker". Someone with exceptional ability to perform the elaborate moves exclusive to pro-wrestling, he had insufficient eb & flow with almost everyone he worked with, except for the "Bret Hart" types of individuals who made their reputation on their ability to elavate the apparent ability of their opponents.
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 2, 2014 14:47:39 GMT -5
Bret was fine on the mic and in 1997 he was one of the best promo men in pro wrestling. He was better than Warrior who would yell and ramble on about starships and spacemen. This dumping on "Brett" in every post stuff is getting old. Also, I've never seen a Dynamite Kid promo but I'm sure they sucked. Like Davey Boy, I could see him winning the Royal Rumble simply because he's bizzare. So is praising Brett in every post we can just grew to disagree you think he was the best . I disagree as I have said before I'm a curt Hennig mark the way you defend Brett I defend Hennig . Back on DK I can't help but wonder how the landscape of wrestling would of changed if he would of been healthy as long as hart and michaels how would he of fit in his career ended at 30 so it leaves a lot to wonder
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 2, 2014 14:49:04 GMT -5
Bret was fine on the mic and in 1997 he was one of the best promo men in pro wrestling. He was better than Warrior who would yell and ramble on about starships and spacemen. This dumping on "Brett" in every post stuff is getting old. Also, I've never seen a Dynamite Kid promo but I'm sure they sucked. Like Davey Boy, I could see him winning the Royal Rumble simply because he's bizzare. For the record as odd as warriors promos were they were amusing for the same fact
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 14:50:20 GMT -5
Bret was fine on the mic and in 1997 he was one of the best promo men in pro wrestling. He was better than Warrior who would yell and ramble on about starships and spacemen. This dumping on "Brett" in every post stuff is getting old. Also, I've never seen a Dynamite Kid promo but I'm sure they sucked. Like Davey Boy, I could see him winning the Royal Rumble simply because he's bizzare.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 14:56:39 GMT -5
Bret was fine on the mic and in 1997 he was one of the best promo men in pro wrestling. He was better than Warrior who would yell and ramble on about starships and spacemen. This dumping on "Brett" in every post stuff is getting old. Also, I've never seen a Dynamite Kid promo but I'm sure they sucked. Like Davey Boy, I could see him winning the Royal Rumble simply because he's bizzare. So is praising Brett in every post we can just grew to disagree you think he was the best . I disagree as I have said before I'm a curt Hennig mark the way you defend Brett I defend Hennig . Back on DK I can't help but wonder how the landscape of wrestling would of changed if he would of been healthy as long as hart and michaels how would he of fit in his career ended at 30 so it leaves a lot to wonder Not praising anybody. Just giving my opinion. We can agree to disagree which is totally fine. I just feel like you are constantly bringing up "Brett" out of context just to cause disputes. For the record, Bret Hart and Curt Hennig are my two favorite wrestlers of all time.
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 2, 2014 14:58:55 GMT -5
So is praising Brett in every post we can just grew to disagree you think he was the best . I disagree as I have said before I'm a curt Hennig mark the way you defend Brett I defend Hennig . Back on DK I can't help but wonder how the landscape of wrestling would of changed if he would of been healthy as long as hart and michaels how would he of fit in his career ended at 30 so it leaves a lot to wonder Not praising anybody. Just giving my opinion. We can agree to disagree which is totally fine. I just feel like you are constantly bringing up "Brett" out of context just to cause disputes. For the record, Bret Hart and Curt Hennig are my two favorite wrestlers of all time. I don't but If i see a quote about him or any other wrestler I disagree with I quote and rebuttal. Im not disrespectful about it. I just disagree. I thought that was what a message board was about
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 15:01:21 GMT -5
Not praising anybody. Just giving my opinion. We can agree to disagree which is totally fine. I just feel like you are constantly bringing up "Brett" out of context just to cause disputes. For the record, Bret Hart and Curt Hennig are my two favorite wrestlers of all time. I don't but If i see a quote about him or any other wrestler I disagree with I quote and rebuttal. Im not disrespectful about it. I just disagree. I thought that was what a message board was about Fair enough.
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 2, 2014 15:06:10 GMT -5
I don't but If i see a quote about him or any other wrestler I disagree with I quote and rebuttal. Im not disrespectful about it. I just disagree. I thought that was what a message board was about Fair enough. For the record though I do find to cool that their are knowledgeable old school fans like myself on this page it grows old talking about current wrestling because its hard to watch. Its cool to be able to intelligently debate with people like you and the Anvil fan. Where a disagreement doesn't lead to personal attacks
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