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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 15:07:12 GMT -5
For the record though I do find to cool that their are knowledgeable old school fans like myself on this page it grows old talking about current wrestling because its hard to watch. Its cool to be able to intelligently debate with people like you and the Anvil fan. Where a disagreement doesn't lead to personal attacks Agreed sir. That is the main reason why this is my favorite board on this forum.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 2, 2014 15:42:17 GMT -5
You are easily the worst member of this forum. What makes you say that? Bagwell is the quintessential example of what's wrong with Professional Wrestling. He had no amateur background, no appreciation of the history, & piss poor in-ring ability to top off his atrocious repertoire. Even as what I refer to as a "Theateical worker". Someone with exceptional ability to perform the elaborate moves exclusive to pro-wrestling, he had insufficient eb & flow with almost everyone he worked with, except for the "Bret Hart" types of individuals who made their reputation on their ability to elavate the apparent ability of their opponents. For one thing, you obviously think you're smarter than you actually are, as evidenced by your nearly constant spelling mistakes and awkward grammar/syntax... you're trying way too hard. Also, I disagree with your opinions on almost everything. *Ignore*
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Jan 2, 2014 15:58:28 GMT -5
What makes you say that? Bagwell is the quintessential example of what's wrong with Professional Wrestling. He had no amateur background, no appreciation of the history, & piss poor in-ring ability to top off his atrocious repertoire. Even as what I refer to as a "Theateical worker". Someone with exceptional ability to perform the elaborate moves exclusive to pro-wrestling, he had insufficient eb & flow with almost everyone he worked with, except for the "Bret Hart" types of individuals who made their reputation on their ability to elavate the apparent ability of their opponents. For one thing, you obviously think you're smarter than you actually are, as evidenced by your nearly constant spelling mistakes and awkward grammar/syntax... you're trying way too hard. Also, I disagree with your opinions on almost everything. *Ignore* What spelling mistakes are you referring to? Secondly, give me an example of my grammatical errors? I admit my grammar isn't perfect, but it beats the tar out of the 80% of members who completely ignore correct spelling & punctuation all together. Furthermore, of what relevance is that to your advocation of a horrendous wrestler?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:53:16 GMT -5
Mr wonderful Paul orndoff
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Post by Rob7274 on Jan 7, 2014 21:06:48 GMT -5
Piper in early 90s Texas Tornado Razor Ramon if he didn't leave WWF
Just trying to think of different ones...
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Post by Rob7274 on Jan 7, 2014 21:15:19 GMT -5
These ones are maybe a bit more hit/miss
Sid Vicious in WWF Adam Bomb Vladimir Kozlov Tensai Tatanka
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Jan 7, 2014 23:30:57 GMT -5
Mr wonderful Paul orndoff Excellent choice. If he hadn't gotten injured in the middle of his run with Hogan, Orndorff could have been a top guy for years. He was never the same after that. My choice is a guy nobody has mentioned yet: Gino Hernandez. He was so naturally talented, especially as a heel. Lots of charisma and he was improving as a worker at the time of his death. If he could have kicked his cocaine habit and survived long enough to get a shot with the WWF or Crockett, he could have become a star on the level of a Ted DiBiase or even a Roddy Piper. Gino's death was such a waste.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 3:28:50 GMT -5
These ones are maybe a bit more hit/miss Sid Vicious in WWF Adam Bomb Vladimir Kozlov Tensai Tatanka Those are some smart choices there.
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Post by jordanimal on Jan 8, 2014 5:43:02 GMT -5
If Hogan never went to WCW If Bret never left left WWE If DX never happened would WCW of won the war? What if SCSA stayed in ECW or WCW? What if Brock never left WWE what if Jeff Hardy never left WWE in 09 all good questions!
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 8, 2014 6:35:09 GMT -5
If Hogan never went to WCW If Bret never left left WWE If DX never happened would WCW of won the war? What if SCSA stayed in ECW or WCW? What if Brock never left WWE what if Jeff Hardy never left WWE in 09 all good questions! Hogan never went to WCW- the NWO would of never happened the Monday night wars would of never happened and WCW out of business a lot sooner. Brett never leaves WWF ? He still drops the belt to michaels let's face it Vince was ready to move on with michaels. Austin still beats Michaels at WM 14 however instead of Dude Love at the next two PPV were treated to two more Austin vs Brett classics. Brett still retires but with less tension. Making it a happier ending for all parties involved. If DX never happened ? I think the Austin vs Vince would of kept WWE afloat and I never believe WWE out WCW out of business as much as I believe WCW self destructed. If Stone Cold never left WCW or ECW he would of either been stuck in the mid cars or relegated to obscurity were all fortunate that didn't happen. If Brock never left . I believe we still would have been stuck with Cena but I don't think Batista would of been as big of a factor also I think if Brock stays it delays Randy Orton ascension. Lastly if Jeff Hardy doesn't leave in 2009? Besides the fact he may have been buried due to his problems with drugs. I think he would of eventually gotten the Dolph Ziggler treatment and been moved back down tha card. Just my two cents .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 6:45:52 GMT -5
Oh and if Bret never left the WWF, he'd have been the guy to drop the title to Austin at WM14, that was the original plan. And it'd have been a full circle thing for Austin to FINALLY beat a guy he'd lost to several times. My guess is after WM14 Bret would have feuded with DX some more.
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Grand Master Sexay is one for me.
Great character, amazing in the ring... If he'd come around today when the WWE doesn't care as much about the bigger guys he'd do extremely well.
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Post by Jack on Jan 8, 2014 6:49:42 GMT -5
Mr Perfect
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 8, 2014 8:48:14 GMT -5
Oh and if Bret never left the WWF, he'd have been the guy to drop the title to Austin at WM14, that was the original plan. And it'd have been a full circle thing for Austin to FINALLY beat a guy he'd lost to several times. My guess is after WM14 Bret would have feuded with DX some more. ------------------------------------------ Grand Master Sexay is one for me. Great character, amazing in the ring... If he'd come around today when the WWE doesn't care as much about the bigger guys he'd do extremely well. Then how does the Brett Shawn rivalry end
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 9:58:52 GMT -5
Oh and if Bret never left the WWF, he'd have been the guy to drop the title to Austin at WM14, that was the original plan. And it'd have been a full circle thing for Austin to FINALLY beat a guy he'd lost to several times. My guess is after WM14 Bret would have feuded with DX some more. ------------------------------------------ Grand Master Sexay is one for me. Great character, amazing in the ring... If he'd come around today when the WWE doesn't care as much about the bigger guys he'd do extremely well. Then how does the Brett Shawn rivalry end Vince never planned on Shawn being injured either, I assume that they were going to be supporting Austin in the ME scene throughout the next few years. But I think a HF/DX feud (a real one) would have definitely been on the cards. Especially with the DX numbers going up after X-Pac and Outlaws joined.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 11:39:41 GMT -5
Mr wonderful Paul orndoff Excellent choice. If he hadn't gotten injured in the middle of his run with Hogan, Orndorff could have been a top guy for years. He was never the same after that. . Yes it was a shame. However the injury wasn't really the problem.....on his shoot Orndorff talks about how he couldn't get the required time off to heal and because of that his physique kept shrinking. its such a pity. Orndorff could've been a force until the early 90s at least. He should at least have been IC champ.
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 8, 2014 14:04:23 GMT -5
I wish Orndorff would of gotten a title run. He was the great antagonist of hogan and one of the few heels you actually thought could end hulkamania
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Post by He Hate Me on Jan 8, 2014 17:08:45 GMT -5
For me the biggest what if is what if Hall and Nash never left in 96? -Does WCW become as popular as it did? -Does the NWO ever exist? -No curtain call at MSG means Triple H wins king of the ring 96. -Would the Kliq continue to hold talent down, mainly Steve Austin. -Does the attitude era ever even happen?
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Post by Brad on Jan 9, 2014 19:20:34 GMT -5
The Rock. Well, if we're counting guys who made it to the top, why not? If The Rock had stuck around for the last ten years instead of leaving to do movies, the WWE would look very different. This is very true. But I also agree with Brock
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Post by HalfBlackRazorback on Jan 9, 2014 21:05:30 GMT -5
I think if Brock stays Batista never becomes a top guy and Ortons ascension is delayed
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Post by bigraj on Jan 10, 2014 13:48:24 GMT -5
Yep. Him wrecking his Porsche ended the career of a sure-fire World Heavyweight Champion, and possibly an all-time great.
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