JDP
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WFigs biggest Justin Gabriel fan.
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Post by JDP on Jan 15, 2014 17:26:53 GMT -5
Woah woah woah, I was near the curtain for he smackdown show back in April and I saw summer Rae, Matt striker, Titus o'neil and justin grabriel watching the show lol. That makes me wanna cry. Sad to look at the picture honestly, he was doing so well and it just went down hill. |
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June
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High Fives All Around!!!
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Post by June on Jan 15, 2014 17:42:02 GMT -5
12 smarks chanting woo woo woo does not make you the most over guy on the roster. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 17:46:29 GMT -5
12 smarks chanting woo woo woo does not make you the most over guy on the roster. Lol It was more like 1200+ in an audience of 8-10000 |
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Post by Chip on Jan 15, 2014 18:10:49 GMT -5
I really dont understand why they just completely killed everything with him. Like what went on behind the scenes?
He was getting a good fanbase and could have EASILY been in the spot that Santino holds now...or any other enhancement talent for that matter. But it was like he had his little spotlight moment....a bullcrapUS title run, and then POOF back to jobbersville/no tv matches at all
Ryder is talented. He's not amazing but he has good wrestling ability, and a personality that could make people laugh. His over-the-top schtick is no worse or better than what Santino does and Santino has had a WAAAAY bigger "career" than Ryder.
Sadly the ship has sailed, Ryder I'm sure will be around but when his contract is up he'll be gone....joining the Shelton Benjamins, and the Charlie Haas's and the MVPs on the "why did they never really push this guy" line
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 18:16:08 GMT -5
Should be Ryback in that position.
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Tyler Black
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the former #1 Tyler Black fan/Tyler F'n Black
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Post by Tyler Black on Jan 15, 2014 18:23:17 GMT -5
I personally dont like Ryder so I could care less. TNA should just sign the guy. Most over guy in late 11/12? LOL Name who else got their named chanted in promos and matches they weren't even involved in during late 2011. They chanted for him in all the PPVs, Cena's promos and Rock's promos. Even Cena backed the kid so hard. CM Punk |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 15, 2014 18:32:21 GMT -5
Zack Ryder should get a push, a small push, like mid card push, not barely on TV push.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 18:33:09 GMT -5
most over guy on the roster in late '11/'12 I think there's a little revisionist history going on here. Was he over? Sure. "Most over guy on the roster"...?  Maybe not most over, but damn near close. His first shirt was on back-order for awhile, it took me at least a month and a half before I could order one because it was always sold out. Not to mention the "We Want Ryder" chants at every show, even chanting it over The Rock in MSG. It's shame how horribly they misused him and ruined ZTLIS in the process. |
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Jan 15, 2014 18:34:35 GMT -5
why don't they put him back him hawkins him back him Hawkins? if they teamed them back up it wouldn't do much if the company doesn't back them. It could give them a bit of TV time but ultimately they will drop back and never be seen again. |
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Post by James on Jan 15, 2014 18:49:28 GMT -5
Woah woah woah, I was near the curtain for he smackdown show back in April and I saw summer Rae, Matt striker, Titus o'neil and justin grabriel watching the show lol. That makes me wanna cry. Sad to look at the picture honestly, he was doing so well and it just went down hill. Stupid spelling mistake. My bad. I'm stupid sometimes. |
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 15, 2014 18:52:57 GMT -5
I'm really curious as to how in demand he'd be on the indies if he were released
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 15, 2014 19:02:23 GMT -5
12 smarks chanting woo woo woo does not make you the most over guy on the roster. Lol It was more like 1200+ in an audience of 8-10000 You are WAY over estimating WWE attendance. For a major PPV, yeah. But attendance is DOWN. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 15, 2014 20:36:03 GMT -5
Are we really trying to downplay Ryder getting chants during The Rock's promo at Survivor Series? I know they were in New York, but The  ing Rock was talking and being interrupted by Ryder chants. There were nearly 17,000 people in that arena, and at least half of them were chanting Ryder's name in that moment, probably more than half imo. I'm not going to say Ryder was the most over guy in the company at that time, I'd comfortably say that was Punk. However, Ryder was a top 5 babyface leading into Mania 28. When I went to Mania that year, you could buy Rock, Cena, CM Punk and Zack Ryder gear at the merch booth. Think about how much merch he would of had to be moving around that time to get that kind of treatment, and be saddled along with those 3 other guys. |
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jan 15, 2014 22:04:16 GMT -5
I don't like Zack Ryder but this really makes me sad.
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Post by knupmc on Jan 15, 2014 22:08:02 GMT -5
Oh this upsets me. I was a huge ryder fan ever since he debuted in ecw. He was always cool. Come on Vince push him
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 22:13:26 GMT -5
Woo Woo Woah
What happened?
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Post by King Silva on Jan 15, 2014 22:16:17 GMT -5
LOL at the caption.
Poor dude.
He should have had a good US Title reign and probably 1-2 more mid card reigns by now.
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The Dave
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Con-Chair-Tos all around!
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Post by The Dave on Jan 15, 2014 22:21:31 GMT -5
Really? In 2014 people are still clamoring for a Zack Ryder push? No thank you. His stale, irritating gimmick can go. Dude was brutal to watch during the whole Kane/Eve/Cena debacle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 22:25:19 GMT -5
Honestly...
Ryder kinda did himself in once they started featuring him in segments and giving him mic time.
The dude couldn't act.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jan 15, 2014 23:16:21 GMT -5
The WWE knows who they want to push, whether the fans like it or not. Vince will make us like the guy he's pushing, and ignore the guys we wanna see be pushed. Zack Ryder wasn't on Vince's list of guys. It could be said Daniel Bryan isn't either. They gave Ryder the US Title to please the fans and then took it off him just as fast. They gave Bryan the WWE Title - twice - and had it taken off of him by the following day both times. Vince wants us to cheer Kofi Kingston on, and John Cena, and Big E. Langston. Just follow what Vince wants, and you will all be happy. You pointed out the exact problem: fans don't know who to support. Today's main eventer could be tomorrow's dark match. Ryder is only one of the victims of WWE's "push, then bury" syndrome. That kills the feeling of anything important happening. |
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