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Post by Andeh on Jan 26, 2014 17:40:08 GMT -5
"Its not gay, if its in a three way"World Heavyweight ChampionshipShowoff(C) Vs. Josh Vs. Rob Stip: 3 man sequence that features the following moves: -Coast to Coast/ Van Terminator (Does not require weapon) -Shouten Showoff: i.minus.com/inuCWbkWWkLIo.gifJosh: i.minus.com/i4M57TrsTwtKl.gifRob: How to vote on matches No polls or bad replies. Your vote will only and only count if you do the following: 1) State the username of the person you are voting for. (should I even have to say this?) 2) You must give reason on why you have voted this person as the winner. Could be anything from smoother animation, to most creative. However you need to compare with the other animations in the match. Put thought into your votes, don't just say who you are voting and leave a sentence, put some effort in. 3) Forum status must be above Jobber If you cannot complete these simple rules, then your vote won't count and will be deleted on the spot, no exceptions.
Note: Alot of users like to get a mark out of 10, but I can't force you to give a mark. Just take it to consideration when voting to make a mark to compare each animation in the match.
If a title match ends in a draw, the champion retains.VOTING ENDS IN 48 HOURS
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Post by Scotty on Jan 26, 2014 18:03:27 GMT -5
Showoff: Smooth. The dropkick was nice, but the jump could have been better. The dropkick was smooth mid air, but miz was stiff throughout pretty much the whole animation which really annoyed me. Like how you had Cara move through the dropkick. The springboard was nice and the dropkick was phenominal. The other suplex move thing was cool, but they fell and didn't really feel like they went up a little and fell like it looked in Josh's.
Josh: Smooth. The suplex thing was smooth. Didn't like how he pretty much crawled into the corner though. I like how you had Edge order Jomo to move. Jomo sliding up was cool too. Would have liked you to move Edges arms or something during the move, but atleast you had his head move. The spinning kick was innovative and nice. The sell and reaction could have been a little better.
DoubleDoubleTreme: Absolutely hated the starting camera frame, The springboard was nice, and while I commend the amazingly hard animating that kick must have been, it looked kind of bad how Cara just flew back up. The move was smooth, but you had him rotate then fall, unlike how the otheres had him rotate during the fall. Punk fidgetely moved from the ring. The dropkick was nice. The way Punk jumped back into the ring looked a little weird. Would have preferred if he just stayed o the ring the entire time. Dont know what it is, but the elbow seemed weird. It was smooth though. The reaction was nice. Nice job to all three. Gonna have to go with Joshi mana ishi though. It just flowed nicer than the others.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 19:43:56 GMT -5
Showoff: Everything flowed very nice and had great joint movement especially that coast to coast. I felt that the Shouten had a nice flow but was too fast which is probably due to lack of frames. Nice animation
Josh: Another great animation. The whole animation flowed extremely well and had great joint movement. The shouten and the coast to coast were pulled off amazingly. Only thing would be that I thought it was a bit too slow but you took a great amount of pics.
Rob: Probably my favorite animation from you! The whole animation was spectacular with an amazing flow and incredible joint movement. I really like the creativity in this one and all the little extra details in this that made it that much better like how Cara went up after the kick. The only flaws were imo how the climb by Bourne looked a bit awkward and there was some sign of fidgetyness throughout but still, amazing animation
I thought Josh's flowed the best but Rob's had the best creativity and most effort imo
VOTE - ROB
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Post by [The Ukrainian One] Dimburuk on Jan 27, 2014 9:23:49 GMT -5
Showoff : nice, i like how it was an actual sequence, it was all smooth, i like how you had Rollins in mid-air for coast to coast and Sin Cara rolling to the apron at the same time without ruining the flow, the springboard caught into a superkick was a nice touch, i just don't like how Sin Cara landed straight after getting kicked right in the face, the Shouten was nice but the transition from suplex position to the slam was kinda wrong, not too much but it did feel weird a little bit. The reaction could also be longer and with a bit more frames.
Josh : it wasn't too much of a sequence IMO, but 2 moves were there and that's good. They were executed perfectly tho, the Shouten is incredible, transition from suplex position into a slam looks really great, it's smooth etc but i want to point out the movements, IMO they were done really really good, the slam looked impactful, nice little rope shake too. Those little moves and taunts by Edge and Morrison are really smooth and have a good flow, as well as Morrison's springboard and coast to coast, all very smooth and with great movements, impact was good and reaction was on par.
Rob : i like it, the whole sequence is smooth and the plus is it's a cool-looking sequence with nice creativity, the movements from Punk and Cara at the begininng were good, kick was okay, but i don't like the Shouten, it's animated good but i just don't buy how Sin Cara had his straight legs, it all felt too slow IMO, however when on ground it looks like it was a liiiitle bit choppy, and i noticed a lag at 0:12. The coast to coast was really impressive, i like the jump and the movements were good, i also like how you went for a elbow drop, but Punk getting up on apron was a bit choppy, and the move itself had kinda weird movements, but not too much. Nice job on this one.
Vote : Josh, i felt it was better than Showoff's because it had a slightly better flow, especially at Shouten part, and it was better than Rob's IMO because of clean movements or smth, i can't put my finger on it. Rob i always get the feeling that if it was a part of animated match, your animation would win, but when it's a single animation stip, or a sequence, there's something better in other's animations than in yours, maybe it's just this time as you said you didn't put too much effort in this one, but still it's a really great animation.
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Post by GAm3r357 on Jan 27, 2014 11:37:58 GMT -5
Showoff: Really nice animation here mate. I liked the way you started off with the coast to coast unlike the other two, i just felt it was a bit too floaty and rob had the best of all 3 C2C. The superkick afterwards was a really nice touch, i didnt like how fidgety sin cara was though coming up from the ropes, however i did really like the way you added the superkick was a nice transition. I didnt like how he just lifted a leg though, looked odd and not much effort put into it..also sin cara wouldve realistically fell to the floor after that not stayed on his feet however, it was still very nice. I really liked the shouten, it was done much better than rob and i think it had nice impact. So good job altogether. 9/10
Rob: Really like this animation man it was very creative and a lot of effort was put into it. The springboard's movements were really nice and smooth and it was a nice build up to get punk to get cara into the move. The mid air kick was really well animated and i loved sin cara's reaction from it jumping up. nice touch. The lift up and setup of the shouten was great however the move wasnt as good as josh and showoff. It lacked impact but the movements were all fine, and i liked the added touch of having them go through the table, sounded brutal with the sound effects! The way punk setup sin cara in the corner for the C2C was great and the Coast to coast itself was the best of all 3 - the movements were very well done and the impact was awesome. Evan was a little fidgety climbing the ropes though. Finally, nice addition adding punk with the elbow. The joint movements were great with him spinning his arm and the oversell was awesome. Wasnt needed but was still a nice touch. Great job overall. 9.5/10
josh: Great job man. YOur shouten was easily the best of the match. Great movements and brutal impact so great job. The springboard coast to coast was ok but not your best work in my opinion i thought you couldve done slighty better. it was very smooth and all, but it didnt quite have the joint movments that rob did with the legs going back then fourth. Also i wasnt a fan of the way he turned to the side...as i said though, extremely smooth and fluid. I wasnt really sure about the connection with the impact either couldve been made to be more impactful however, like i said great job. 9.4/10
Vote: Rob, just preferred his overall creativity and his coast to coast was great.
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Post by Andeh on Jan 28, 2014 4:00:09 GMT -5
Showoff- Nice on the creative side, but lacked in the animation side. The Coast to coast was great, joint movements where perfect and it flowed well. Sin Cara rolling onto the apron looked great aswell, its pretty easy to get his rolling speed wrong with the main focus being on Rollins. Everything was great up to the superkick, Sin Caras reaction was to clean for me, a springboard got into a superkick should be sold, his momentum would force him to atleast stagger. Instead he just sorta leans back and then bends over. Really didn't like that. Your Shouten also seemed stiff. The reaction was OK. But sadly the superkick sell and stiff shouten, brought down what was looking to be a perfect animation.
Josh- So bland creatively, there was so many ways you could have gone in terms of just setting up the moves. Reversals & transitions, instead you just did the shouten, Dolph scooted himself into position and JoMo hit the coast to coast. Very basic. Would have liked to see something more. However animation wise, INSANE. The animation is so smooth consistently throughout. The shouten is the best out of the 3 in my opinion. Joint movements where great on both figures and the impact looked great. The coast to coast was solid and I liked the turn in mid air, looked cool. The impact and reaction from Dolph where great aswell. I feel like you have everything in terms of animation down. Its just creatively you need to think outside the box. You animate like the greats, but your content is not as entertaining as them.
Rob- Creatively the best out of the 3, but animation wise, the worst. Its really inconsistent, at some points its super smooth and then others, its choppy. I liked the setup with Sin Caras springboard caught into the boot. Sin Cara was bow legged AGAIN, you gotta stop doing that. the kick was really good, always dig the extra effort put into a kick or punch. When Punk was hooking Cara for the suplex it was choppy, however I thought your shouten was great, a littler slow but I liked it. I liked how Punk pulled Sin Cara into the corner instead of him shuffling into it himself. However it gets super choppy at this point. It looks like you deleted some frames and then added the wrong ones back in. Bourne doubles back for a frame when he climes to the top rope. I didn't like how you could see a chunk of blu tac on Bournes feet as he was setting up to jump. If you are gunna blu tac the feet, try and hide it. Especially if you are going to remove it later on in the animation, little inconsistencies like that bring it down. The coast to coast was great. At this point I would have ended the animation, the elbow drop was complete overkill.Plus it just goes all wrong during the reaction of it. Bournes reaction was really weak, it also looks like he nudged into the table pieces and they move to far in too little time, looked choppy. NOW WTF? The ring just randomly collapses? Looked like it was on hydraulics, and the ramp area to the right starts moving. Looked choppy and brought the animation down.
My vote goes to Josh. I thought his was the best and had the least flaws. Creatively the others where better, but not enough to shadow the near perfectness of his animation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 5:14:07 GMT -5
To lazy to type out a full response so I'll just give a few words to each animator than state my reasons for the vote.
Rob: Definately the best figure movements of the lot, smoothness was good but definitely not up to your standard. Some of the reactions were weak and choppy in my opinion and also I noticed some of the figures sliding a fairbit in this. Still nice animation though. 7.1/10
Showcrap: Loved the coast to coast, the animation was relatively good although I didn't like when Rollins stood up, seem pretty unrealistic and then when he super kicked Cara it should of hit him in the stomach because if it his head by laws of gravity he would go flying back onto his back and not land in the position he did. The animation was good but some unrealistic parts made me mark it down a bit. 6/10
Josh: Definitely the smoothest of the lot but I feel yours was very stiff and it seemed kinda slow and to calm for the amount of moves being put in there. The reactions were mediocre at best and once again seemed very slow. Although you had rope bounces and such in there the impact of the moves all seemed really weak to me. 7/10
VOTING ROB: He had better movement, smoothness won't always win for you Josh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 12:30:09 GMT -5
Early MOTY candidate right here
Ozzy: The whole animation had a consistent smoothness and flow to it, which is always great to see. I like the coast to coast; it had great air time and good movements in the air. It would have been nice if the guy taking the move had more movements before and after being hit, for example putting his arms in front of his face to brace for impact. Rollins and Cara both seemed to have weird movements where they move back and then forward; Rollins did this after the coast to coast and Cara when being hit with the super kick. I know what you were trying to do but it looked really awkward to me, especially in Cara's case. The superkick itself was great but I didn't like the reaction. Rollins taunt during the springboard was a nice touch. The shouten was solid, as well as the reactions. 8.5/10
Josh: Absoultely love the flow on this one. Your shouten was easily the best out of the three. The coast to coast, however, was the weakest of the bunch in my view. The lack of arm movement compared to the others dampened it in comparsion. My only other complaint was how Ziggler kind of shifted himself into place for the coast to coast. Other than that it was fantastically smooth and an overall great animation. 8.5/10
Rob: I didn't like the angle chosen for Cara's spring board, but the kick looked great. I like the speed during the shouten set up. A little slower than the others but more time given to the grab and the lift. The shouten itself was pretty cool. I didn't like the camera moving during the move but you put an interesting twist on it, kind of making it more like a side effect. It was smooth but it wasn't the best Shouten of the three. Your coast to coast was insane, it had perfect movements and impact and was definitely the best CTC of the three. I didn't like Cara's reaction and I felt it cut away too quickly. The Punk elbow really captured the awkwardness of his actual elbow drop, which in this case is actually a good thing. Once again I wasn't too fond of the reaction. I felt the setup of yours was the nicest of the three and while it wasn't as smooth it was creative. 8.5/10
As you can see, all three of these animations are even in quality. So I'm going to base my pick on who overall did the best moves.
Shouten: 1. Josh 2. Rob 3. Ozzy
Coast to Coast: 1. Rob 2. Ozzy 3. Josh
Overall, Rob was the most consistent in the quality of the moves assigned, and so I am choosing WWEXTREME25 as the winner.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 14:51:59 GMT -5
So, there's like another 3 hours till this ends and I'm tired as and it's currently tied. So I'm changing my vote to Rob as I thought his figures had the best movement. Josh, yours was smooth but smooth won't always win. It seemed sorta boring imo. So I vote Rob for best figure movement and that crap. Now I'm going to sleep. Please nobody ing tie this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 15:35:47 GMT -5
My votes gotta go to Josh on this one
His was the smoothest, the most realistic, and had the most impact imo. Robs had nice airtime, but it was a bit choppy and fidgety. Ozzy did a great job, but I expected more out of him. His moves just didn't flow as well as Josh's, NOR Robs. Josh's had great timing and was very believable. While Robs had a good build up, I also think that cost him because it took the focus off the two main moves. It's hard to describe what I mean, but Josh's was just smoother, good reaction, good impact.
Close match, but it goes to Josh for me
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Post by KKD on Jan 28, 2014 16:08:31 GMT -5
My vote goes to Rob because the movements were superb and I really liked the flow of the ani as a whole..
Josh, yours was pretty fluid and smooth, but it majorly lacked creativity. Sure, I know the stip isn't required to have creativity but this was pretty bland. The Shouten was pretty good and had a nice reaction but maybe if Edge kicked him to the corner or something I would've thought your animation would've been slightly better. The Van Terminator was pretty smooth and fluid like the rest of it but the twist in mid air bugged me a lot.
Showoff, yours would've my second choice. The creativity was pretty good and the movements were great. The Terminator was pretty good but Miz didn't have much of a reaction. The Superkick was my favorite part. I didn't like the reaction though. Maybe you should've had Cara fall and then Rollins pick him up. The Shouten itself was pretty good but the camera fidget really bugged me.
Rob, this was awesome. The creativity was awesome, although it wasn't required. The Shouten was smooth and not very stiff at all. The Van terminator was almost flawless imo. The movements throughout the whole animation were awesome. The elbow drop was nice also, as I said before, the movements were awesome. No string was seen and the camera quality was pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:25:03 GMT -5
Showsh*t: Pretty good ani here. Overall it was smooth, not that stiff, and no issues with airtime. Problems I found with the animation mainly came from the Coast to Coast. when Rollins hit Miz, it looked really awkward and not that impactful. When Rollins got up, he was also kinda fidgety. The other thing that kinda annoyed me in the ani was Cara's jump up to the ropes seemed too fast for how the rest of the animation was paced.
Urs (Josh for those who don't get the joke): Really good ani here. The flow was excellent, and the movements were executed well. The only issues I had with this ani were the slight flicker throughout as well as the impact from the Coast to Coast. If Ziggler's head turned more or went farther back or whatever, then it'd look soooo much better.
Haha fair enough (Robert): Pretty good ani. Creativity was nice here, and everything up to the Shouten was perfect. The thing that weighed down the ani was the Shouten. Not saying it was bad, but it seemed so awkward. Didn't come off as having much impact, and the fall was pretty slow. Also, Punk should have started to go down a few frames earlier. Otherwise I would have preferred you to do the version Josh or Showsh*t did. Coast to Coast was pretty good, but Evan climbing the ropes seemed too slow. Cara sold it well, but Punk was REALLY fidgety on the outside of the ring. Punk climbing up was decent, the springboard and the elbow were well done. My main issues with this were Bourne selling his head a bit too late as well as some flicker/shadows on the ring mat.
Vote: Good match you guys, you all brought something to the table. But overall I'd say Josh made the best overall animation. If Rob's Shouten was a bit better or Showsh*t's Coast to Coast had better impact, it would have been a lot closer and probably would have beaten Josh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:41:13 GMT -5
D-did...Ozzy just retain with NO votes? wtf?
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Post by el torro on Jan 28, 2014 17:41:41 GMT -5
IT'S A DRAW. I RETAIN.
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Post by wwextreme25 on Jan 28, 2014 17:41:56 GMT -5
D-did...Ozzy just retain with NO votes? wtf? yes, yes he did...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:42:50 GMT -5
What a ing heel move xD
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Post by JDP on Jan 28, 2014 17:43:10 GMT -5
, I was just typing my ing vote too...
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Post by el torro on Jan 28, 2014 17:43:46 GMT -5
ONCE AGAIN
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 17:45:48 GMT -5
If Rob or Josh actually thought they were gonna win the title, with ACTUAL votes, when they ACTUALLY deserved to win
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