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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 11:59:26 GMT -5
They are professionals they don't need to get there matches down. They have been doing this for Years. 10 minutes is all that is needed to call a match in the back, That's it. I know, trust me, been in the business for 15 years myself. Nothing new or things to work out needs to be done. The idea that you think a house show is a test run is kinda a slap to the face to both Talent and those who buy tickets. It simply is not. They go out night after night and do the same thing they would do during a live show. There is no phoning it home, it's against what every wrestler believes in. it doesn't matter if they work in front of 50,000 people or 50 people they will do the best they can to entertain those who paid to see them. It is driven into their blood from the very beginning starting in the indies. Also I'm saying to show 1 house Show a week not every house show. If a WWE really needs to work things out then they could do it on the shows that are not shown but like I said there is no reason for that. No one is saying that they are phoning it in at house shows. But if a guy is starting a new gimmick or an idea they wanna try, they have the ability to go out and try it during a house show. If the crowd likes it they bring it to TV. If the crowd doesn't like it than only a few thousand people saw it rather than millions. For WWE to operate on the level they do, their TV product has to be top notch which means they have to get stuff tested and prepared. Calling a match 10 minutes before you go out may be acceptable for wrestling in front of 50 people, but it doesn't fly when millions of people around the world paid a lot of money to come see a good show that has the kinks worked out. Think of comedians too. They travel for years with the same material in small clubs working their set out. Then, when it's ready they bring it to a large audience. I'll let you in on a little secret, It's all the same. They do the same exact thing we do in the indies, yes, They call there matches in 10 minutes before the show, even at Wrestlemania. It's how they are trained to do it, hell they use to have to call their matches in the ring as they went in the Kayfabe days. They are taught both ways of doing it if they need to. Just because it is on TV doesn't mean anything changes believe me. Wrestlers are animals of habit. Also like I said, They could do all that stuff on the blackout House shows if they need to. The idea should be to think you may see something special on a house show.It needs to be special again |
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Post by bababooey on Jan 28, 2014 12:07:19 GMT -5
No one is saying that they are phoning it in at house shows. But if a guy is starting a new gimmick or an idea they wanna try, they have the ability to go out and try it during a house show. If the crowd likes it they bring it to TV. If the crowd doesn't like it than only a few thousand people saw it rather than millions. For WWE to operate on the level they do, their TV product has to be top notch which means they have to get stuff tested and prepared. Calling a match 10 minutes before you go out may be acceptable for wrestling in front of 50 people, but it doesn't fly when millions of people around the world paid a lot of money to come see a good show that has the kinks worked out. Think of comedians too. They travel for years with the same material in small clubs working their set out. Then, when it's ready they bring it to a large audience. I'll let you in on a little secret, It's all the same. They do the same exact thing we do in the indies, yes, They call there matches in 10 minutes before the show, even at Wrestlemania. It's how they are trained to do it, hell they use to have to call their matches in the ring as they went in the Kayfabe days. They are taught both ways of doing it if they need to. Just because it is on TV doesn't mean anything changes believe me. Wrestlers are animals of habit. And you know this because you have been in a WWE type situation? I'm not trying to insult you but I'm telling you that I've personally seen the exact same match on RAW two weeks after seeing it at a house show. It was almost 100% exact move for move. I know wrestlers are taught to call things on the fly, but in WWE that only seems to happen if they are guys everybody trusts to do it, or if they need to call an audible. There has even been videos of WWE rehearsals and we always hear about Wrestlemania rehearsals. |
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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 12:39:56 GMT -5
Actually YES, I have been behind the scenes of both a WWE and TNA PPV. Reheashals are just in ring work you see. They do it before every show to get warmed up.
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Post by bababooey on Jan 28, 2014 12:57:03 GMT -5
Ok well, agree to disagree. We both have our opinions and I don't want this to get confused for fighting.
I still think what I thought and you still think what you though. So let's leave it there.
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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 13:01:44 GMT -5
Ok well, agree to disagree. We both have our opinions and I don't want this to get confused for fighting. I still think what I thought and you still think what you though. So let's leave it there. That's cool. No argument ever needed. 2 Wrestling fans discussing how to better business is never a bad thing my friend.  |
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Jan 28, 2014 13:20:18 GMT -5
So in other words, WWE should stop doing house shows and just have another televised show every week. That's stupid.
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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 13:25:49 GMT -5
So in other words, WWE should stop doing house shows and just have another televised show every week. That's stupid. Who said that? You did actually read the whole post right?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 14:00:23 GMT -5
I thought WWE were releasing a best of house show matches dvd?
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Post by Doctor Worm on Jan 28, 2014 14:03:42 GMT -5
I see what you are getting at. But I guess my personal feeling, is that we need less televised wrestling than we currently get already. Now if we got rid of Smackdown, and they added a weekly "Best of House shows" type thing, or televised 1 house show a week, I would be more interested in that. Scratch that, THIS is an idea we need to look into. |
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 28, 2014 14:19:27 GMT -5
I see what you are getting at. But I guess my personal feeling, is that we need less televised wrestling than we currently get already. Now if we got rid of Smackdown, and they added a weekly "Best of House shows" type thing, or televised 1 house show a week, I would be more interested in that. SmackDown needs to go |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jan 28, 2014 14:22:26 GMT -5
It wouldn't work. House shows are more or less trial runs for later matches. We'd see the same matches 3 times or more in a week. Even the production cost would be enough for them not to do it.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 28, 2014 14:23:45 GMT -5
They are professionals they don't need to get there matches down. They have been doing this for Years. 10 minutes is all that is needed to call a match in the back, That's it. I know, trust me, been in the business for 15 years myself. Nothing new or things to work out needs to be done. The idea that you think a house show is a test run is kinda a slap to the face to both Talent and those who buy tickets. It simply is not. They go out night after night and do the same thing they would do during a live show. There is no phoning it home, it's against what every wrestler believes in. it doesn't matter if they work in front of 50,000 people or 50 people they will do the best they can to entertain those who paid to see them. It is driven into their blood from the very beginning starting in the indies. Also I'm saying to show 1 house Show a week not every house show. If a WWE really needs to work things out then they could do it on the shows that are not shown but like I said there is no reason for that. No one is saying that they are phoning it in at house shows. But if a guy is starting a new gimmick or an idea they wanna try, they have the ability to go out and try it during a house show. If the crowd likes it they bring it to TV. If the crowd doesn't like it than only a few thousand people saw it rather than millions. For WWE to operate on the level they do, their TV product has to be top notch which means they have to get stuff tested and prepared.
Calling a match 10 minutes before you go out may be acceptable for wrestling in front of 50 people, but it doesn't fly when millions of people around the world paid a lot of money to come see a good show that has the kinks worked out. Think of comedians too. They travel for years with the same material in small clubs working their set out. Then, when it's ready they bring it to a large audience. This is exactly why this idea will never work. |
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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 14:30:47 GMT -5
No one is saying that they are phoning it in at house shows. But if a guy is starting a new gimmick or an idea they wanna try, they have the ability to go out and try it during a house show. If the crowd likes it they bring it to TV. If the crowd doesn't like it than only a few thousand people saw it rather than millions. For WWE to operate on the level they do, their TV product has to be top notch which means they have to get stuff tested and prepared.
Calling a match 10 minutes before you go out may be acceptable for wrestling in front of 50 people, but it doesn't fly when millions of people around the world paid a lot of money to come see a good show that has the kinks worked out. Think of comedians too. They travel for years with the same material in small clubs working their set out. Then, when it's ready they bring it to a large audience. This is exactly why this idea will never work. It's what they have NXT for. Starting a new gimmick should not involve house shows. Could be why they lose business on them instead of actually trying to make money off them. |
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Post by marino13 on Jan 28, 2014 14:40:54 GMT -5
This is exactly why this idea will never work. It's what they have NXT for. Starting a new gimmick should not involve house shows. Could be why they lose business on them instead of actually trying to make money off them. It may be. But I've heard about new gimmicks starting at house shows that never make it to TV. If WWE changes that, then your idea would be great. Until then, I just don't see it happening. |
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Post by Epic Z on Jan 28, 2014 14:44:44 GMT -5
I'd rather have a live Saturday night main event tbh. But I guess this could work if they show like 1 house show every 2 weeks on the network, but not EVERY house show.
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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 14:48:32 GMT -5
It's what they have NXT for. Starting a new gimmick should not involve house shows. Could be why they lose business on them instead of actually trying to make money off them. It may be. But I've heard about new gimmicks starting at house shows that never make it to TV. If WWE changes that, then your idea would be great. Until then, I just don't see it happening. One can only hope but that would mean the WWE would actually need to be smart and that is a long shot.  |
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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 14:49:25 GMT -5
I'd rather have a live Saturday night main event tbh. But I guess this could work if they show like 1 house show every 2 weeks on the network, but not EVERY house show. Yea, You don't want more then once or twice a month. Anymore would be over kill and lose what it is trying to achieve. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jan 28, 2014 15:00:27 GMT -5
I think you're trying to fix something that isn't broken. If you want to see a bunch of half-baked matches and feuds that only last for one week…just watch SmackDown...
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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 15:11:27 GMT -5
I think you're trying to fix something that isn't broken. If you want to see a bunch of half-baked matches and feuds that only last for one week…just watch SmackDown... You just explained why it is broken. So how can it not be broken. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jan 28, 2014 15:19:01 GMT -5
I think you're trying to fix something that isn't broken. If you want to see a bunch of half-baked matches and feuds that only last for one week…just watch SmackDown... You just explained why it is broken. So how can it not be broken. House shows or SmackDown? |
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