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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 9, 2014 11:43:37 GMT -5
After going over the reviews for my RP, Im quite disappointed in myself. Don't be. The reviews are just proof that people know you can get even better. This was a step up for you, but now you take the words of those who helped you and use them to make the next one even better.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 9, 2014 11:51:47 GMT -5
After going over the reviews for my RP, Im quite disappointed in myself. Why? The reviews you've gotten have been immensely constructive and have given you a great piece of framework to build upon for future pieces. You know who starts off shakey, or weak, or misdirected, or just plain awful when they're starting out here? Damn near everyone. Without question, there are exceptions to the rule, but go back a few pages and you'll see some of the most experienced, seasoned, or looked up to writers sh*tting all over their own early work. Just 'cause you're feeling down, I don't think you're a scuz yet, and I'm feeling altruistic, I'm gonna pour the cement foundation into the framework that's been laid down in your replies - every time a card is up, I see you post something along the lines of "Hmmm, I wonder what to write about". That tells me you're writing show to show. That's suicide, man. Look, the deadline is...sometime this weekend (there's reliability for you)? Then the results gotta be assembled. You've got an easy two weeks before the next card goes up. Are you really gonna wait til then to develop your character some more? Hell no, you're not, 'cause I'm giving you some homework for the interim. You're gonna take this downtime an flesh out your character. Really dig in and make some serious notes about what makes him tick. You're gonna map his life out, for consistency's sake. I suggest a timeline - you start with the year was born, and end in the year of our lord, 2014. You're gonna pinpoint some real life events for him - where has he been? What has he done? What has he seen? Realistic time frames here - you're creating a person - embodied through text and a picture of someone else but dammit the more living and breathing you make them, the better. Details, details, details - just a separate file, doesn't need to be neat or clean, just laying out this rich, real life that Kyle Matthews has lived up until today. The best part of doing this is that you don't have to peel away the curtain all at once - now you have an encyclopedia of Kyle Matthews to draw upon for writing purposes and you can start writing at ANY TIME. Every rp I've ever written has "deleted scenes" that I decide midway through just don't fit. They're sitting in a sunflower of my Brennan folder called "Scenes" and I only ever delete them when I put them into a published rp. I haven't posted it yet, but the scene that opens my Superbrawl rp was written before I ever won the SotF tournament, and that was two years ago. Don't ever let the down time here kill your flow, 'cause it will. To hell with everyone else - if your focus is 100% your character, and you really work on fleshing out their story, and not just scenes because they've been assigned like term papers, you'll thrive here. I know Obo writes all the time. I do too. Most of the big guys here do. Now you're motivated, and if you lie and say you're not, I'll be pissed that I just tapped all this out on my iPhone.
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Post by Sleazyness on Apr 9, 2014 12:01:20 GMT -5
After going over the reviews for my RP, Im quite disappointed in myself. Why? The reviews you've gotten have been immensely constructive and have given you a great piece of framework to build upon for future pieces. You know who starts off shakey, or weak, or misdirected, or just plain awful when they're starting out here? Damn near everyone. Without question, there are exceptions to the rule, but go back a few pages and you'll see some of the most experienced, seasoned, or looked up to writers sh*tting all over their own early work. Just 'cause you're feeling down, I don't think you're a scuz yet, and I'm feeling altruistic, I'm gonna pour the cement foundation into the framework that's been laid down in your replies - every time a card is up, I see you post something along the lines of "Hmmm, I wonder what to write about". That tells me you're writing show to show. That's suicide, man. Look, the deadline is...sometime this weekend (there's reliability for you)? Then the results gotta be assembled. You've got an easy two weeks before the next card goes up. Are you really gonna wait til then to develop your character some more? Hell no, you're not, 'cause I'm giving you some homework for the interim. You're gonna take this downtime an flesh out your character. Really dig in and make some serious notes about what makes him tick. You're gonna map his life out, for consistency's sake. I suggest a timeline - you start with the year was born, and end in the year of our lord, 2014. You're gonna pinpoint some real life events for him - where has he been? What has he done? What has he seen? Realistic time frames here - you're creating a person - embodied through text and a picture of someone else but dammit the more living and breathing you make them, the better. Details, details, details - just a separate file, doesn't need to be neat or clean, just laying out this rich, real life that Kyle Matthews has lived up until today. The best part of doing this is that you don't have to peel away the curtain all at once - now you have an encyclopedia of Kyle Matthews to draw upon for writing purposes and you can start writing at ANY TIME. Every rp I've ever written has "deleted scenes" that I decide midway through just don't fit. They're sitting in a sunflower of my Brennan folder called "Scenes" and I only ever delete them when I put them into a published rp. I haven't posted it yet, but the scene that opens my Superbrawl rp was written before I ever won the SotF tournament, and that was two years ago. Don't ever let the down time here kill your flow, 'cause it will. To hell with everyone else - if your focus is 100% your character, and you really work on fleshing out their story, and not just scenes because they've been assigned like term papers, you'll thrive here. I know Obo writes all the time. I do too. Most of the big guys here do. Now you're motivated, and if you lie and say you're not, I'll be pissed that I just tapped all this out on my iPhone. Thanks for the well constructive reply to me. I appreciate all that you have wrote. I have to start mapping all of this stuff out.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 9, 2014 12:02:41 GMT -5
You know what, Kyle? Today's your lucky day - I got one more for you. I want you go back and read your rp, word for word, and I want you to critique it as if you were an outside reading it. Sometimes I'd do this and respond to my own work after about a week or so. Go as in depth as some of your peers here - give yourself a real breakdown of what you liked, what you didn't, and what you personally want to work on next time, above and beyond just "getting better". After all, who knows you as a writer better than you?
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Post by Sleazyness on Apr 9, 2014 12:08:39 GMT -5
Good idea, will do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 15:07:32 GMT -5
You know what, Kyle? Today's your lucky day - I got one more for you. I want you go back and read your rp, word for word, and I want you to critique it as if you were an outside reading it. Sometimes I'd do this and respond to my own work after about a week or so. Go as in depth as some of your peers here - give yourself a real breakdown of what you liked, what you didn't, and what you personally want to work on next time, above and beyond just "getting better". After all, who knows you as a writer better than you? Teach
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 11, 2014 11:56:27 GMT -5
So here's an offshoot of the advice I gave Kyle. This afternoon, I'm emailing myself the last scene of my rp that I typed up on my phone, I'm dropping it into the rp, and I'm posting it, so that Saturday I can get a start on writing my match. I'm stretched incredibly thin here, and because of my mood swinging this week, I've got an easy 10 scenes that I've cut and saved for another day. I'm ready to be done with this rp, and I don't even know if I'm that nuts about it, but at least it'll be done.
Moral of the story. Never start a piece, then take on a job that involves pulling up 24 square feel of concrete embedded tile, five hundred square feet of carpet and padding (plus stairs), and emptying said room with a deadline that matches up with the rp deadline. The only silver lining here is the job is done, the rp is done, and someone else's dumb ass gets to lay down the new stuff.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Apr 11, 2014 16:45:25 GMT -5
I've been working 10 hour days at the "real job" plus trying to maintain my own small business. Then there's the whole "social life" thing that youths enjoy.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 11, 2014 16:53:01 GMT -5
I year ya, Obo. The den renovation, I should note, has been starting at 6:30 PM every afternoon after I get home from work. Not to mention the fact that it's the end of our fiscal year, and I work in the ...drumroll please... accounting department!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 16:58:39 GMT -5
Social life? What's that?
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Apr 11, 2014 17:06:21 GMT -5
I'm very glad the word "intellectually- disabled person" is not filtered. That would've been a pain in the ass to fix.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 17:52:37 GMT -5
All I'm imagining is an entire monologue of Schneider repeating "Drakz is a intellectually- disabled person."
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Apr 11, 2014 18:00:53 GMT -5
All I'm imagining is an entire monologue of Schneider repeating "Drakz is a intellectually- disabled person." "half of this letter is just "Flanders sucks" over and over"
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 11, 2014 21:39:48 GMT -5
Amazing what a moment of free time can do. Match is maybe...I dunno...half done? Finish that up, both endings, and some commentary tomorrow. Thankfully, the thing is already like 20 pages on account of Josh's prewritten entrance - Jesus Q. Christ, guy...
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Apr 12, 2014 7:51:06 GMT -5
*looks at DrakzvsSchneider.odt*
*whistles innocently*
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 12, 2014 8:29:35 GMT -5
So there's this...family...in my town. Real old family. Real big family. All inbred. No joke. The city built a house and moved them to the outskirts of town after their original one was condemned. They live by the dump, and four of 'em sit out there every day from dusk until dawn just watching cars drive by. I went to the dump today to ditch a washer machine and saw them. Then I came home, and moved a couch out of my den so the installers could do the carpet.
Moral of the story? I'm now sitting out front my own house, on a couch, reading rps, and watching cars drive by.
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Post by Kyzer on Apr 12, 2014 8:43:48 GMT -5
So there's this...family...in my town. Real old family. Real big family. All inbred. No joke. The city built a house and moved them to the outskirts of town after their original one was condemned. They live by the dump, and four of 'em sit out there every day from dusk until dawn just watching cars drive by. I went to the dump today to ditch a washer machine and saw them. Then I came home, and moved a couch out of my den so the installers could do the carpet. Moral of the story? I'm now sitting out front my own house, on a couch, reading rps, and watching cars drive by. That family is basically like the rural population of South Carolina.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 12, 2014 8:51:34 GMT -5
So there's this...family...in my town. Real old family. Real big family. All inbred. No joke. The city built a house and moved them to the outskirts of town after their original one was condemned. They live by the dump, and four of 'em sit out there every day from dusk until dawn just watching cars drive by. I went to the dump today to ditch a washer machine and saw them. Then I came home, and moved a couch out of my den so the installers could do the carpet. Moral of the story? I'm now sitting out front my own house, on a couch, reading rps, and watching cars drive by. That family is basically like the rural population of South Carolina. In spite of what shows like Breaking Bad would have you believe, it's not exactly the bulk of New Hampshire. Maybe waaaay north (which I suppose is where Walt went), but we get a bad rap. I live in a city called the "Gate City" in account of us straddling the northeast border of Massachusetts (to those who follow all my characters - surprise!).
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 12, 2014 10:33:14 GMT -5
So there's this...family...in my town. Real old family. Real big family. All inbred. No joke. The city built a house and moved them to the outskirts of town after their original one was condemned. They live by the dump, and four of 'em sit out there every day from dusk until dawn just watching cars drive by. I went to the dump today to ditch a washer machine and saw them. Then I came home, and moved a couch out of my den so the installers could do the carpet. Moral of the story? I'm now sitting out front my own house, on a couch, reading rps, and watching cars drive by. That family is basically like the rural population of South Carolina. Or West Virginia, something I am more familiar with. Sorry JD, you know the jokes are the truth. Haha. XD
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 12, 2014 10:36:48 GMT -5
Little less than 12 hours people. I'm gonna be sorely disappointed in any no shows after writing a quarter of my rp on my phone's notes function in my car on my lunch breaks.
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