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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 12:56:20 GMT -5
Well, who's ready for an epic side-character?
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Post by Markw on Mar 10, 2014 13:25:56 GMT -5
Well, who's ready for an epic side-character? Qui le f***? Edit: I think my French may be a little rough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 13:30:55 GMT -5
Well, who's ready for an epic side-character? Qui le f***? Oui, oui. C'est moi Austin! C'était moi toute la longueur!
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 10, 2014 13:34:00 GMT -5
Well, who's ready for an epic side-character? You'll never have a supporting character as awesome as Kyzer's midget man-servant DMK, or Fred Durst when he was dragging him around.
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Post by Markw on Mar 10, 2014 13:35:14 GMT -5
Oui, oui. C'est moi Austin! C'était moi toute la longueur! That is easily your best post to date. Now I insist you change this new character's theme music immediately...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 13:36:37 GMT -5
Oui, oui. C'est moi Austin! C'était moi toute la longueur! That is easily your best post to date. Now I insist you change this new character's theme music immediately... That was the original theme song, actually. But then mister Shawn...
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Post by Markw on Mar 10, 2014 13:40:06 GMT -5
That is easily your best post to date. Now I insist you change this new character's theme music immediately... That was the original theme song, actually. But then mister Shawn... How dare he.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 10, 2014 13:43:24 GMT -5
In all seriousness, though Progs - if I could "call you out" in the least hostile way possible and expand upon mine/Trace's critiques from your last rp - knock it off with the extra characters. You are clearly a talented writer, and you've got all the tools to be one of the next big deals here, but if you've got one glaring, right out in plain view weakness, it's your manic ADD when it comes to ideas, man. I know, 'cause I suffered through it myself, and I see the same pattern in you - you lock in on something, whether it's what your watching or listening to, or whatever, and you say "I've gotta write that!". If I'm to be blunt, it's no secret that you were jonesing on Raven and Bray Wyatt when you decided to run with Solomon Crowe. The proof is all up in the pudding in your profile, but that's fine cause you've gone and done your own thing with it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is take all that energy, and put it into what you've got going, 'cause Solomon is clearly working for you, but you're toeing the line lately between driving your character, and letting all your creative energy steer you right off the cliff, and that's a tough road to come back from.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 13:50:49 GMT -5
it's no secret that you were jonesing on Raven and Bray Wyatt when you decided to run with Solomon Crowe. That and the fact Solomon Crowe is Sami Callahan's name in WWE, who was also the original pic base and also ran with an "evil hacker" gimmick a la The Watchers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 13:51:47 GMT -5
In all seriousness, though Progs - if I could "call you out" in the least hostile way possible and expand upon mine/Trace's critiques from your last rp - knock it off with the extra characters. You are clearly a talented writer, and you've got all the tools to be one of the next big deals here, but if you've got one glaring, right out in plain view weakness, it's your manic ADD when it comes to ideas, man. I know, 'cause I suffered through it myself, and I see the same pattern in you - you lock in on something, whether it's what your watching or listening to, or whatever, and you say "I've gotta write that!". If I'm to be blunt, it's no secret that you were jonesing on Raven and Bray Wyatt when you decided to run with Solomon Crowe. The proof is all up in the pudding in your profile, but that's fine cause you've gone and done your own thing with it. I guess what I'm trying to say is take all that energy, and put it into what you've got going, 'cause Solomon is clearly working for you, but you're toeing the line lately between driving your character, and letting all your creative energy steer you right off the cliff, and that's a tough road to come back from. I still have all the intent to do my best work with Solomon. Actually, that is my main character here with my full concern. He has my ideas, and quite frankly is the one who I want to succeed. I have one set storyline for Solomon coming up so it isn't going to drive off into the obscure once again like it has the past few shows. He will have the attention needed to have one running story for the months and possible years to come. Meanwhile, to get rid of the fun side of Solomon and to keep him a dark character, and a dark character only, I've decided to do a fun and comedic side-character. That way, I have two distinct ways of writing without ever intertwining them. It's a way to make sure Solomon stays serious and stays who I want him to be. I want my Solomon character to rise and to reach his full potential, but if I had no place to write the fun stuff, it would interfere with Solomon's RPs. I'm basically playing a psychological game with myself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 13:54:18 GMT -5
it's no secret that you were jonesing on Raven and Bray Wyatt when you decided to run with Solomon Crowe. That and the fact Solomon Crowe is Sami Callahan's name in WWE, who was also the original pic base and also ran with an "evil hacker" gimmick a la The Watchers. Original pic base was Raven over in XWA, where I first created him. And the "evil hacker" was never his gimmick. The Watchers hacking gimmick was a ploy for something much bigger that never happened.
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Post by Markw on Mar 10, 2014 13:54:59 GMT -5
Having gone and actually looked at what theme you went with, all is forgiven Shawn. Alouette is also a superb choice.
I agree with what SYE says in general, but if you genuinely feel the need to write some 'goofy comedy' then I think it's probably better if you do that with a side character and focus on building Solomon up without straying into that territory. But if you're going to do that you have to be very honest about whether or not the side character is taking away from your work with the main character.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 14:08:05 GMT -5
That and the fact Solomon Crowe is Sami Callahan's name in WWE, who was also the original pic base and also ran with an "evil hacker" gimmick a la The Watchers. Original pic base was Raven over in XWA, where I first created him. And the "evil hacker" was never his gimmick. The Watchers hacking gimmick was a ploy for something much bigger that never happened. Having never been a part of XWA I clearly didn't mean as far back as that. Even if Callahan was never your pic base he was in your sig no? And whether the hacker thing happened or not it still came up. What I'm trying to say is, regardless of the writing side of things, your character is somewhat of a blatant rip off of a number of different wrestlers. I don't think that's a problem but I do think you shouldn't try and side step it if someone mentions it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 14:13:31 GMT -5
Original pic base was Raven over in XWA, where I first created him. And the "evil hacker" was never his gimmick. The Watchers hacking gimmick was a ploy for something much bigger that never happened. Having never been a part of XWA I clearly didn't mean as far back as that. Even if Callahan was never your pic base he was in your sig no? And whether the hacker thing happened or not it still came up. What I'm trying to say is, regardless of the writing side of things, your character is somewhat of a blatant rip off of a number of different wrestlers. I don't think that's a problem but I do think you shouldn't try and side step it if someone mentions it. I get what you're saying and I respect that you're trying to help me. I've tried to limit down on the amount of rip offs I've down. Part of the reason why he's just named Solomon now and the Nest isn't really going to be active anymore. Basically, a reset button to avoid all the things I've done wrongly while focusing on my self created stories. I finished taking the baby steps with all those ideas that influenced me before, now I'm ready to walk on my own.
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Post by Markw on Mar 10, 2014 14:15:45 GMT -5
Does this mean that Solomon isn't going to get a face transplant every other week?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 14:18:26 GMT -5
Does this mean that Solomon isn't going to get a face transplant every other week? Them transplant bills got expensive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 14:19:21 GMT -5
Having never been a part of XWA I clearly didn't mean as far back as that. Even if Callahan was never your pic base he was in your sig no? And whether the hacker thing happened or not it still came up. What I'm trying to say is, regardless of the writing side of things, your character is somewhat of a blatant rip off of a number of different wrestlers. I don't think that's a problem but I do think you shouldn't try and side step it if someone mentions it. I get what you're saying and I respect that you're trying to help me. I've tried to limit down on the amount of rip offs I've down. Part of the reason why he's just named Solomon now and the Nest isn't really going to be active anymore. Basically, a reset button to avoid all the things I've done wrongly while focusing on my self created stories. I finished taking the baby steps with all those ideas that influenced me before, now I'm ready to walk on my own. Good stuff man. I wasn't trying to be a d*ck. Glad you're taking steps to move forward with it.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 10, 2014 14:26:42 GMT -5
I get what you're saying and I respect that you're trying to help me. I've tried to limit down on the amount of rip offs I've down. Part of the reason why he's just named Solomon now and the Nest isn't really going to be active anymore. Basically, a reset button to avoid all the things I've done wrongly while focusing on my self created stories. I finished taking the baby steps with all those ideas that influenced me before, now I'm ready to walk on my own. Good stuff man. I wasn't trying to be a d*ck. Glad you're taking steps to move forward with it. Hey I have been telling him EVERYTHING you, Trace and Brennan fed him this week for months now. At least he is listening now. XD
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Post by jdfranchise on Mar 10, 2014 16:53:43 GMT -5
Sometimes it takes more than one person saying the same thing for it to sink in.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Mar 10, 2014 17:34:52 GMT -5
Good stuff man. I wasn't trying to be a d*ck. Glad you're taking steps to move forward with it. Hey I have been telling him EVERYTHING you, Trace and Brennan fed him this week for months now. At least he is listening now. XD people mostly just ignore you though
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