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Post by Mr. Orange on Mar 2, 2014 1:27:31 GMT -5
After the match is over and he steals the show with Lesnar again like he has at WrestleMania every year since 23, no one will be bitching or debating this Undertaker thing anymore. Bank on it.
But since we're beating a dead horse here:
The guy DOES NOT need to be around more than once or twice a year. Its what makes his appearances that much more special, and honestly I'd rather see him in something big like WrestleMania that will be remembered rather than hang around the whole year kind of floating/running the risk of getting hurt. Remember that feud with Kane and seemingly soon to be the Nexus in 2010? Nope. Went nowhere, he got hurt and was largely irrelevant. But everyone remembers Wrestlemania 26 before that and WrestleMania 27 after. Plus he hangs around, he's going to be on top, which is the last thing anyone who wants fresh talent on top needs. He's only got Wyatts left (if The Shield break up) if he sticks around. Thats really it.
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Post by Chief on Mar 2, 2014 10:35:59 GMT -5
No one will complain till he comes back next year and this happens all over again.
I think I've found out that I love Taker a lot more then I originally thought when it's come to defending him In these debates.
Win or lose I think Roman Reigns would be the ideal choice next year. Make it a battle for Takers respect.
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Post by Jamal on Mar 2, 2014 19:52:11 GMT -5
If we never get a Cena/Taker WM match, it will be one of the biggest missed opportunities in WM history.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 3, 2014 10:32:39 GMT -5
No one will complain till he comes back next year and this happens all over again. I think I've found out that I love Taker a lot more then I originally thought when it's come to defending him In these debates. Win or lose I think Roman Reigns would be the ideal choice next year. Make it a battle for Takers respect. It needs to be Reigns next year. Its been almost 10 years since the streak was used to elevate someone (Orton) and nobody on the roster would get a rub like Reigns. Bryan is already there without help and nobody else on the roster is deserving of such a rub currently.
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Post by J12 on Mar 3, 2014 12:34:10 GMT -5
While I think a match between Reigns and The Undertaker is enticing (and may become more enticing as time progresses), I think Taker/Cena is a match that needs to happen at Wrestlemania. I've felt that way for a long time, and still do.
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Post by doctaheath78 on Mar 3, 2014 18:29:55 GMT -5
Why not have a sort of Wrestlemania 9 scenario.
Batista wins and takes the mic and runs down the fans and says Daniel Bryan why don't come out now and try and beat me.
Daniel Bryan could lose to Triple H earlier in the night and be battered and bruised, but he comes to the ring for an impromptu Title match and wins and sends the fans home shocked and HAPPY.
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Post by Chief on Mar 4, 2014 0:21:46 GMT -5
Why not have a sort of Wrestlemania 9 scenario. Batista wins and takes the mic and runs down the fans and says Daniel Bryan why don't come out now and try and beat me. Daniel Bryan could lose to Triple H earlier in the night and be battered and bruised, but he comes to the ring for an impromptu Title match and wins and sends the fans home shocked and HAPPY. Nobody wants to see Batista work twice.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 4, 2014 10:52:36 GMT -5
Why not have a sort of Wrestlemania 9 scenario. Batista wins and takes the mic and runs down the fans and says Daniel Bryan why don't come out now and try and beat me. Daniel Bryan could lose to Triple H earlier in the night and be battered and bruised, but he comes to the ring for an impromptu Title match and wins and sends the fans home shocked and HAPPY. Nobody wants to see Batista work twice. I'm pretty sure anyone that saw last nights raw officially wants to never see Batista work a one on one match again. He couldnt even have a decent match with Daniel Bryan. Who has had a great match with everyone on the roster (Ryback I'm looking at you). There needs to be another man in that main event.
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Post by Wuffles on Mar 4, 2014 11:09:48 GMT -5
After the match is over and he steals the show with Lesnar again like he has at WrestleMania every year since 23, no one will be bitching or debating this Undertaker thing anymore. Bank on it. This is so true. Last year when it was "old" Undertaker vs. "fat" CM Punk? That was a good one
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 4, 2014 12:08:10 GMT -5
Why not have a sort of Wrestlemania 9 scenario. Batista wins and takes the mic and runs down the fans and says Daniel Bryan why don't come out now and try and beat me. Daniel Bryan could lose to Triple H earlier in the night and be battered and bruised, but he comes to the ring for an impromptu Title match and wins and sends the fans home shocked and HAPPY. That would be great, but it wouldn't be Wrestlemania 9. Wrestlemania 9 would be if Punk came back, got inserted into the title match, and won all after crying like the bitch that he is and leaving before Raw. On that festive note, they aren't getting enough mileage out of Hulk Hogan. Yes, he is a hype machine, and it seems like he has a free pass to any and all talk shows. That is huge for Wrestlemania awareness, and a great way to use him, but they need to do more with him on the air. Hogan just coming out and talking about Wrestlemania and the network is a huge waste. Anyone in attendance or watching at home knows all about Wrestlemania and the Network. It's just wasted airtime. They need to have some back and forths, create some tension between he and other superstars, possibly even the Authority. NO, I do not mean he has to become the focus, or even a focus of these angles, but they need to use his status as a WWE Legend, and even a man who is pretty broken down to create intrigue. He's a face, have him side with Daniel Bryan, have him get into Triple H's face about not listening to the fans, not taking the match with Bryan, not having Bryan in the title picture. Trips could make some of his little snipes about how Hogan signed with Vince and how Trips never wanted him back, as I am sure he would love to do to Hogan, maybe even send Kane after him (since Kane is obviously just a pawn, as Big E is in the Real Americans angle), and send Bryan out for the rescue and the double YES! to end the show. IF they plan on inserting Bryan into the title match somehow, that would be the way to do it. They like to give hosts random power, and you know Trips isn't going to be the man to offer him a match, especially a surprise match at the end of Orton/Batista. This is just a complete spitball idea, definitely not something that I expect to happen; they probably won't even put Bryan into the match. They could just as easily have the Wyatts interrupt and surround Hogan, send Cena out for the save, and put Hogan in Cena's corner at Wrestlemania. They could also be doing backstage segments with him. Something with Lesnar and Heyman would be fantastic considering their brief history (Heyman: Let's face it, you have never been the same after the beating that you were given at the hands of BRRROCK LESNAR!!! At Wrestlemania BRRROCK LESNAR will leave the Undertaker in a broken bloody heap, the same way he left you in 2002, and he will leave the Undertaker and his streak the way that he left you, a battered, broken, humbled legend.") I just think they should be doing more with Hogan. I doubt they are paying him nearly as much as he has ever made anywhere else, but they might as well get their money's worth. Just having him come out and talk is great for the live crowds, but if anyone can help build excitement for a lackluster Wrestlemania, it's Hogan. Without wrestling, if done right, there is still plenty of magic that can be achieved by just having Hogan interact with some of today's stars.
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Post by Rule 30 on Mar 4, 2014 20:16:21 GMT -5
I won't lie, at this point I wouldn't mind getting Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H as long as Bryan wins.
Still pretty hyped for Undertaker/Lesnar, Wyatt/Cena, and the potential Shield Triple Threat. This should be a great WrestleMania, as long as Orton/Batista doesn't go on too long if it remains a one on one match.
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Post by bigshab421 on Mar 5, 2014 8:29:18 GMT -5
I honestly hope they do Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H on an upcoming Raw with the "Win & In" stipulation for Bryan at WrestleMania.
*It would be one of the biggest matches/moments in Raw history *Gives a much needed importance to the WWE WHC match at Mania (Evolution vs. Bryan)
Think about it. If he wins the title at WrestleMania 30 you can have HHH throw Orton at him at Extreme Rules, Batista until MITB (when he leaves), and then at SummerSlam HHH could defeat Bryan, unleashing a championship reign of terror. At Survivor Series, Bryan wins the title back and could face Cena or Wyatt at WM 31 for the title solidifying his spot as the man.
Idk why people are so down on him winning and going from there. He's always gonna play underdog in feuds and he will not hold the title for years on end. So honestly I think 3-5 month reigns then dropping the title and starting another chase for it is absolute gold.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 11:47:17 GMT -5
I honestly hope they do Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H on an upcoming Raw with the "Win & In" stipulation for Bryan at WrestleMania. *It would be one of the biggest matches/moments in Raw history *Gives a much needed importance to the WWE WHC match at Mania (Evolution vs. Bryan) Think about it. If he wins the title at WrestleMania 30 you can have HHH throw Orton at him at Extreme Rules, Batista until MITB (when he leaves), and then at SummerSlam HHH could defeat Bryan, unleashing a championship reign of terror. At Survivor Series, Bryan wins the title back and could face Cena or Wyatt at WM 31 for the title solidifying his spot as the man. Idk why people are so down on him winning and going from there. He's always gonna play underdog in feuds and he will not hold the title for years on end. So honestly I think 3-5 month reigns then dropping the title and starting another chase for it is absolute gold. Not gonna lie that would be cool and the only way I could deal another HHH Title reign.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 5, 2014 21:33:33 GMT -5
Orton vs. Batista vs. Bryan Bryan vs. Triple H Taker vs. Lesnar Cena w/Hogan vs. Wyatt w/Wyatt Family Langston vs. Swagger vs. Cesaro Sheamus vs. Del Rio vs. Christian vs. Ziggler Usos vs. NAO
I'd put money on this being the final card plus whatever the Shield is doing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 23:19:44 GMT -5
I do wonder how the new business model will work out for them. No more paying $60 for WM now it's $10/month on the WWE network. Will WM make more money because of that? Will it make less money? I'm interested how this pans out.
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Post by gtf_fangeek on Mar 6, 2014 11:14:17 GMT -5
Orton vs. Batista vs. Bryan Bryan vs. Triple H Taker vs. Lesnar Cena w/Hogan vs. Wyatt w/Wyatt Family Langston vs. Swagger vs. Cesaro Sheamus vs. Del Rio vs. Christian vs. Ziggler Usos vs. NAO I'd put money on this being the final card plus whatever the Shield is doing. Could see that coming. Sounds pretty possible, although I don't think they'll involve Hogan in the Cena storyline
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 6, 2014 14:51:24 GMT -5
Orton vs. Batista vs. Bryan Bryan vs. Triple H Taker vs. Lesnar Cena w/Hogan vs. Wyatt w/Wyatt Family Langston vs. Swagger vs. Cesaro Sheamus vs. Del Rio vs. Christian vs. Ziggler Usos vs. NAO I'd put money on this being the final card plus whatever the Shield is doing. Could see that coming. Sounds pretty possible, although I don't think they'll involve Hogan in the Cena storyline He's gotta do something. There's no way his ego and creative will pass up the chance. He didn't need to take a bump to throw a few punches or clotheslines. Didn't they let Flair get beat down by the Shield? He can't be much better then Hogan condition wise.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 16:33:16 GMT -5
Great idea: Street fight the rock v. Cm punk. Whoever loses HAS to work for the WWE.
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Post by Chief on Mar 7, 2014 18:32:06 GMT -5
At this point I never wanna see the Usos vs Outlaws again.
They are dragging the tag division now. Throw in the Real Americans and the Brotherhood and make it a four way.
Have the Americans be the last team and break up after the match.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 19:51:57 GMT -5
It's probably going to be stupid like they have been. All events are bad anymore. I went to WM28 in Miami and I was not that impressed.
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