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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 2, 2014 21:35:59 GMT -5
watched wrestlemania 20 yesterday,and realized it seems the Big Show has quite an underwhelming legacy to his name! here's a guy who's headlined PPV's against Hulk Hogan, wrestled in the main event of Wrestlemania, had multiple Title matches at mania, is part of the Undertaker's streak,and has beaten some of the best talent ever in the industry, including Hulk Hogan,John Cena,The Rock,Triple H, The Undertaker,Mankind,Chris Jericho,Sheamus, Mark Henry,CM Punk,Edge,Brock Lesnar,Kane,etc... and his list of Championship's is actually quite impressive,and covers nearly every major Championship in the last 19 years:
WWF/WWE Championship X 2
WWE World Heavyweight Championship X 2
WWE Intercontinental Championship
WWE United States Championship
WWE Tag Team Championship X 3
WWE World Tag Team Championship X 5
WWF Hardcore Championship X 2
WCW World Heavyweight Championship X 2
WCW World Tag Team Championship X 3
ECW Championship
..yet he's considered an underachiever,and for most of his career a second-tier type of guy.why? is it his lack of success at WrestleMania? his lack of truly defining Title reigns,especially at the World Level? the guy is set to retire in 4 years,yet he's always seen as an afterthought...was curious as to why everyone thinks that is...
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Post by slappy on Mar 2, 2014 21:40:02 GMT -5
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Post by knupmc on Mar 2, 2014 21:40:05 GMT -5
He's underrated just as much as zack ryder needs a push
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Post by ICW on Mar 2, 2014 21:42:34 GMT -5
I think there was a stretch where The Giant/The Big Show was pretty cool to watch...but then, in my opinion, he became completely disinteresting. He was slow, out of shape, and it just felt like the WWE was shoving him down our throats.
Plus, I miss his original theme damn it. I hate the remixed version by Brand New Sin
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Post by marino13 on Mar 2, 2014 22:04:24 GMT -5
My opinion on Big Show: Meh... give or take. He had spurts but overall I've been board with him most of his career.
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Post by Chief on Mar 2, 2014 23:02:33 GMT -5
Best worker for a guy his size. A few years in the middle of his career where he was overweight and lazy but these last few years especially have been great.
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Post by Quazimoto on Mar 2, 2014 23:11:36 GMT -5
IMO, the problem with Big Show is that they've never really given him the dominate monster run at the top that he should have had. I still think he's one of the best big men of all time and a great performer in any aspect, but had they just given him one, solid, six to twelve month run as an unstoppable force (not necessarily as champion the whole time) his legacy would feel a lot different to most fans. At this point, whenever Big Show comes out for a match, while you're not really expecting him to win every time, you're also not surprised when he loses.
He also really suffered from the too much too soon curse. Being crowned WCW champion right out of the gate when no one really know who he was... I mean, where does a guy really go from there?
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Post by ricflair4ever on Mar 2, 2014 23:25:07 GMT -5
IMO, the problem with Big Show is that they've never really given him the dominate monster run at the top that he should have had. I still think he's one of the best big men of all time and a great performer in any aspect, but had they just given him one, solid, six to twelve month run as an unstoppable force (not necessarily as champion the whole time) his legacy would feel a lot different to most fans. At this point, whenever Big Show comes out for a match, while you're not really expecting him to win every time, you're also not surprised when he loses. He also really suffered from the too much too soon curse. Being crowned WCW champion right out of the gate when no one really know who he was... I mean, where does a guy really go from there? This. Over the years they couldn't seem to make up their minds as to whether he's a big lovable funny guy or truly destructive and dominant force. Switching him once or twice would've been ok, but to go from one extreme to another with little to no reason has been counterproductive . It just makes it hard to buy into him when they want to push him back up to the top of the card in any capacity. Work wise he probably is the best big man ever. But spotty booking has been a bigger enemy to him than his actual ability or any conditioning issues he's had in the past. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 2, 2014 23:29:02 GMT -5
He'd be much better off if he weren't bipolar.
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Post by HHH316 on Mar 3, 2014 0:27:29 GMT -5
Has there ever been a guy in any of the big three whose had more face/heel turns?
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Post by Chief on Mar 3, 2014 0:30:47 GMT -5
Has there ever been a guy in any of the big three whose had more face/heel turns? Possibly Lex Luger. |
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Post by HHH316 on Mar 3, 2014 0:39:20 GMT -5
Has there ever been a guy in any of the big three whose had more face/heel turns? Possibly Lex Luger. Being the giant wrestling historian nerd that I try to be, I could figure out exactly how many Show has had. I'd have to do some work on Luger. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 3:23:44 GMT -5
He's been around too long. He's just stale. He may be good for a guy his size, but the style that he has can get very stale very quickly. And having him on tv constantly for nearly two decades, plus all the face heel turns, has exhausted the fans that have seen him for so long. Plus all the comedy skits have destroyed his credibility as a monster. He just seems like a teddy bear. I don't like the big show, but I loved the giant.
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 3, 2014 4:40:08 GMT -5
Being the giant wrestling historian nerd that I try to be, I could figure out exactly how many Show has had. I'd have to do some work on Luger. help you get started! 1995 - comes in WCW as a heel... 1996 - still a heel til Hog wil 96,where he turns face against the nWo and Hogan a few weeks later turns heel again and joins the nWo. turns face again right at the end of the year. 1997 - think he was a face all throughout the year. 1998- turns heel again and joins nWo Black and White 1999 - debuts in the WWF as a heel. turns face at Mania XV. turns heel again during the summer, joining with the Undertaker. turns face again after his DaddyDied. 2000 - turns heel right around the royal rumble, squares off with the rock,and takes Shane as his cornerman. turns face right after Mania to start the imposter gimmick angle. left for 2 months after Judgement Day, returned to attack Undertaker,turning heel yet again. so that's TEN switches in just his first 5 years in the sport,with many more to come!! |
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Post by King Richius on Mar 3, 2014 5:01:03 GMT -5
Big Show suffers from "how do we book this giant of a man without making the rest of the roster look bad". Realistically, Big Show would win whatever title he got a match for and not lost it until he retired. But a truly dominant Big Show would have made the last two decades very boring so all kinds of booking tricks have been done that watered down the Big Show over the years. I think his legacy and eventual HoF acceptance speech should be "I could have killed you all, but I chose not to."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 5:10:42 GMT -5
They its just so hard to take him seriously when.....heel turn....face turn...heel turn...face turn......he's a comedic act then he a unstoppable monster......then back to a joke.........its just......  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 5:31:52 GMT -5
Legit, Big Show has been my favorite current wrestler for awhile now. I don't much see him being the funny guy as a bad thing. You can only have so many and only be an unstoppable giant monster that murders everyone for so long. Him being the funny dude has greatly extended his career and time in WWE and made him more popular with kids and such than being an unstoppable giant monster ever would have with the older crowd. Not everyone has to be serious.
Also, what's wrong with him being a big lovable funny guy that is still a dominant force in the ring? Why must it be one or the other? Beyond popular belief, he's made it work for awhile now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 7:22:18 GMT -5
Big Show has yet to impress me in any way, shape or form.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Mar 3, 2014 7:54:07 GMT -5
Big Show is truly one of a kind. I'm not sure we'll ever see a 7-feet-tall, 500lb wrestler with as much talent and longevity as him.
And it's pretty sad that a lot of people don't realise that.
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Post by LeighD on Mar 3, 2014 8:45:25 GMT -5
I REALLY wish WWE had brought him in the same way WCW brought him in....a dominate monster. Have him debut as he did, for the next year Show destroys everyone and anything in his path. Start off small as Vince's bodyguard and do small attacks on Austin, which have Austin HURTING. Smoothly over the next 9 months Vince is his mouth piece while Show becomes more a wrestler than bodyguard. He wins the 2000 Rumble which sets up Austin vs. Big Show at WrestleMania.
All this of course assumes Austin would still be healthy enough to continue wrestling.
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