saintpatrick33
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Post by saintpatrick33 on Dec 26, 2015 20:47:46 GMT -5
Hi, Rs made some horrible choices in this game no Pro Bat writer (Paul Dini ) using a gadget as a Mechanic another no no and their reputation is hurt from it greatly I mean go to the WB site and over 50% of the threads are what your said in your comments . And if you even use another MC system thats even more accurate even BAO scored Higher than BAK aka the battankmobile game lol . Did you play SOI its great compared to anything in the main story of the game and that says it all as there only 25 minutes a piece tops as so many are disappointed this is what we got for the Finale as they used nothing as tie ins from BAA and BAC ? weird choices but when you fire your writer from BAA and BAC who kept you grounded from making silly non Batman like choices and you think you can do no wrong ? BAK is what happens ! Its a basic formula as the whole series is Story , Characters and combat and they abandoned it as there was no emotion even with the forced moments ?. And to avoid opinion in the gaming industry across the board NOTHING is more fair or accurate than MC and they rate BAC 97 , BAA 93 and bak 87 and thats a fact not opinion thats the rating it is what it is and that says it all !There's a lot of things that annoyed me about Knight. For starters, anyone who knows even a little about comics could have called The Knight being Jason Todd. The complete lack of emotion from Batman at times annoyed me. I also watched some of the DLC's, and he's just way too cold. I don't know if Kevin Conroy wasn't feeling it during this, but his delivery fell flat several times. The complete bastardization of Scarecrow to make this yet another Joker story. You never even have a final battle with Scarecrow. It's just a mini-game with the Joker. Annoyed me to no end. Making you pay for tons of DLC that should have been on the main game. All the build up from side missions from AC that had no pay off. Hush? All of that and he just tries to waltz in and steal his money? The tagline of this game should have been "Be The Batmobile" not "Be the Batman" Just a poor understanding of Batman and the characters in general. I wanted to go into this and love it, but I left extremely disappointed and put off. That being said, I still love Arkham Asylum (which I consider a perfect game) and Arkham City. Hell, I liked Origins more than Knight to be honest. To members getting butt hurt over ratings Im just the messenger so it is what it is and if you have a better way for across the board ratings in 2015 let someone know but as it stands its MC and the facts are BAC 97 , BAA 93 and bak 87 .
Wow you had mine and manys disappointment for the game and I also called it "Be The Battankmobile 6-23-15 " 8 months before the game was even released and I based my thoughts on only what RS released in those horrible preview videos that were all tank battles ? In a Arkham Batman game ? Its easily 50% of the game and for those who cant understand it especially in this series that was all about Characters and story that was a horrible idea and if people have trouble with grasping that imagine if in BAK you played as Batgirl half the game just like the tank do you now get it ? and once again that isnt "being the Batman " feeling . I played the complete story twice and the main story 7 times so far as Im a huge Arkhan fan and this story is nothing but a doughnut that is nothing but padding with boring repetitive chore work as its goes no where after Ace Blows and doesnt pick up till the ending and even that as you say is a waste and once again since RS cant write its all open ended and you make the call after the Manor blows up and now a flaming worse bat ? The Only Boss battles other than the boxer thats rehashed with Croc are Tank battles ? AK and the worlds greatest assassin DS an equal to Batman get beat in a tank battle and then one punch chumped like Hush and then the Walk/ride of shame to GCPD lol and most members on the WB forums could have wrote better than this and how about the heavy armored tanks that were now magically fast as the Battankmobile ? Told you as most agree on WB site RS could only write for Joker and they learned that from Dini as they cant even write for Bats so dont blame Conroy too much but I know what you mean but heres a sample , Blame Bats for everything , Bats talks down too all his family doesnt want help , Bats broods ? I also didnt like some of the character models as they lost the comic book feel for this game and the city was to modern and shouldve been more Gothic but I understand what they wanted to do and tried to make it look more realistic like with cueball , granny mother nature Ivy with no pharamoans to charms men to do her bidding and could you imagine her flowing hair from BAA and BAC in current gen ? But the biggest crime was why no tie ins from the first two games ? I mean this shouldve be a slamdunk Epic Grand finale and we get a fake BS AK character for what seems nothing more to create an army and have bang bang Tank games and they waste Iconic Characters like Hush especially after the climatic side in BAC thats it and how they handled two face , Harley and Man Bat was criminal . NO batcave and then they have the we had a meeting premise and did nothing with it in game ? We all got together Perfect and even freeze mentions it in SOI but myself and many think the 4 years production of the game many to develop the battankmobile got the better of RS and man they even wanted to delay it again till Halloween 2015 but WB said no way . So Tanks but No thanks as even Titan wouldve been a better plot for this game as at least it had history and not a fake original AK character we had no emotional tie to especially add so late to the game with poor development . I see things this way as I played BAA and BAC main story 314 times and NOTHING every made me say I wanna skip this part but in bak theres many and its so repetitive boring chore work thats almost mind numbing (tank crap , excatvator lol all padding )and to be honest as I said before even a novice could see what this game was gonna be but I never thought the story would be worse than the over use of a gadget as a mechanic like the Battank and what a un epic ending for the finale . did you think they over did a dead character like the Joker ? I did a bit as its just took away from who shouldve been the main villain Scarecrow so it was a good average game for me but not epic like it shouldve been with little effort and even with less tank battles and more character development the story like SOI but the premise still sucked so it wouldnt even matter . Oh and did you notice people dont rip Origins as much after bak ? As BAO only had the misfortune of having to follow BAC but could you imagine the out cry if BAK followed BAC OMG you think people rip Bak now lol . Also thanks for understanding why BAA was the best of the series even with its limits as it had perfect pace and flow and Characters that had development and the most important thing was you actually felt like the Batman for one Knight and thats what made the first two games so critically praised and love by all !
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Post by sean™ on Dec 28, 2015 15:06:17 GMT -5
No one is getting "butt hurt" over ratings. People are getting annoyed that their opinion is somehow being deemed wrong or invalid when compared to the collective opinion of different people.
You posed a question of if anyone agreed with you about the overusage of Tank Battles. I disagreed, said I enjoyed the Tank Battles, and moved on to the SOI DLC. You brought the conversaion back to the enjoyment of the game and the tanks, including two statements about the wide approval of the game and a backhanded example to help me "understand" your point of view. I then replied that it was simply my opinion and that I understood what you meant.
Your reply was that "numbers don't lie" and then a reiteration of the previously stated scores of the games...
I'm not going to debate my opinion with someone who's mentality is that their opinion lines up with the opinion of others, and thus it must now be some kind of "fact" despite still being a subjective topic that was posed as a question in the first place.
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Post by Weemanv1 on Dec 28, 2015 16:59:11 GMT -5
As soon as butthurt comes out, I know that I'm dealing with someone just trying to make a big stink out of this. Seeing as they did that in this thread when the game was newer and got modded for it, I'm not surprised either. I enjoyed the game. Don't like that? That's fine, but you're not going to make me agree with you no matter how many opposing OPINIONS you show me. Hell, I'm spiteful. When people try to convince me that I'm wrong about something subjective, it just makes my own beliefs stronger.
There are right and wrong ways to state an opinion. @monoxide23 did it the right way. He said there were problems and he didn't like the game which is fine. He didn't try to convince people that their opinion was wrong.
Anyway, I'll be done with the arguments now and see how far those go without the thread getting modded. In the meantime, I bought the season pass yesterday since it was half price. I liked the Batgirl DLC except Batgirl herself wasn't too different to play as. Will be moving onto Red Hood (Which is also new to me) and Harley Quinn (Which I've already played) next.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 17:17:35 GMT -5
As soon as butthurt comes out, I know that I'm dealing with someone just trying to make a big stink out of this. Seeing as they did that in this thread when the game was newer and got modded for it, I'm not surprised either. I enjoyed the game. Don't like that? That's fine, but you're not going to make me agree with you no matter how many opposing OPINIONS you show me. Hell, I'm spiteful. When people try to convince me that I'm wrong about something subjective, it just makes my own beliefs stronger. There are right and wrong ways to state an opinion. @monoxide23 did it the right way. He said there were problems and he didn't like the game which is fine. He didn't try to convince people that their opinion was wrong. Anyway, I'll be done with the arguments now and see how far those go without the thread getting modded. In the meantime, I bought the season pass yesterday since it was half price. I liked the Batgirl DLC except Batgirl herself wasn't too different to play as. Will be moving onto Red Hood (Which is also new to me) and Harley Quinn (Which I've already played) next. Yeah, I meant to add that I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. Especially due to the ratings thing. Who cares what other people think about it? Form your own thoughts on something. As for myself, I will probably re-play it when the GOTY edition drops with all of the DLC. I've heard good things about the Killer Croc one actually. I still think they should have had a section of the game where Scarecrow gets his revenge on Croc. Croc mutilates him and Scarecrow just does nothing? Sure he can blame Batman, but it still was offputting to me. An idea I had would have been Batman discovering that Scarecrow had been torturing Croc and then when Batman find him, he releases Croc and blasts both of them with fear gas. So basically this huge, scary nightmare boss fight. I was sure they'd do something like that! Maybe I just armchair booked my expectations too high lol My favorite in the series is still Asylum, and I've heard the Croc DLC is similar to the feel of that one so I'm pretty excited to play that one.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 28, 2015 17:47:50 GMT -5
Well Im a little pissed I missed out on the season pass being half price. I still dropped $40 on it though (which was my plan after Christmas anyway) I enjoy the game. Ive played bits & pieces of Arkham City (it appears all Arkham games can be downloaded through PSN on the PS4 now) so I might go back and play all of them. I dont think "ratings" or the opinions of the masses should really matter though...in fact, they're completely irrelevant. 1966 Batman TV show is seen as corny yet I would rather watch it then any other version of Batman that has or will be released, why? Because Im entertained by it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 19:13:42 GMT -5
Well Im a little pissed I missed out on the season pass being half price. I still dropped $40 on it though (which was my plan after Christmas anyway) I enjoy the game. Ive played bits & pieces of Arkham City (it appears all Arkham games can be downloaded through PSN on the PS4 now) so I might go back and play all of them. I dont think "ratings" or the opinions of the masses should really matter though...in fact, they're completely irrelevant. 1966 Batman TV show is seen as corny yet I would rather watch it then any other version of Batman that has or will be released, why? Because Im entertained by it. What kind of monster doesn't like the 60's Batman?!
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Post by drifter on Dec 28, 2015 19:54:54 GMT -5
Well Im a little pissed I missed out on the season pass being half price. I still dropped $40 on it though (which was my plan after Christmas anyway) I enjoy the game. Ive played bits & pieces of Arkham City (it appears all Arkham games can be downloaded through PSN on the PS4 now) so I might go back and play all of them. I dont think "ratings" or the opinions of the masses should really matter though...in fact, they're completely irrelevant. 1966 Batman TV show is seen as corny yet I would rather watch it then any other version of Batman that has or will be released, why? Because Im entertained by it. What kind of monster doesn't like the 60's Batman?! For me, I always prefer the darker Batman, like in the Arkhamverse, but really, you can't hate the Adam West Batman. Yeah it's goofy, but that's what makes in entertaining.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 30, 2015 23:27:12 GMT -5
Just realized why I stopped playing the main mission in Sept. Deathstroke's tanks are impossible to beat. I tried for hours then, tried for hours just now. Ill stick to just playing the DLC
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Post by Weemanv1 on Jan 24, 2016 14:27:28 GMT -5
Just about finished my second playthrough here. I love how the Season of Infamy adds new missions to the campaign itself rather than more short, standalone stories. Hatter and Croc were pretty average stuff, but the League missions were interesting (Was not expecting to see Nyssa) and I loved Mr. Freeze's story. The Cobra tank battles are still a pain, but less so now that I know they can be hacked. Just have some Riddler and Deathstroke stuff left to do now.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 19, 2016 9:32:54 GMT -5
Figured I would bump this thread instead of making a new one but Batman return to Arkham comes out July 26th and retails for $49.99. For those that dont know its Arkham Asylum and Arkham City for the new gen systems with much improved graphics.
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Post by Weemanv1 on May 19, 2016 14:40:58 GMT -5
Since I already own the other Arkham games on PC I'd only get this at a price drop. It's a decent deal though otherwise. There aren't any other improvements right? It's just the games + DLC with updated graphics?
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Post by Nivro™ on May 19, 2016 23:02:44 GMT -5
Since I already own the other Arkham games on PC I'd only get this at a price drop. It's a decent deal though otherwise. There aren't any other improvements right? It's just the games + DLC with updated graphics? Yea same game just updated graphics. I never finished Arkham City and never played Arkham Asylum so Ill jump on it.
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Post by PJ on May 20, 2016 6:25:38 GMT -5
Figured I would bump this thread instead of making a new one but Batman return to Arkham comes out July 26th and retails for $49.99. For those that dont know its Arkham Asylum and Arkham City for the new gen systems with much improved graphics. That is the Batman HD right? I asked two different GameStop employees about this last week as I wanted to preorder it. (It's Batman so even though I have them on PSC and XBox of course I will get the update PS4 ersions) anyway employee at store one said there was nothing to the rumor. Employee two said yes it is coming, but won't be announced until E3(?) Whatever the big video game show is called.
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Post by PJ on May 20, 2016 14:42:09 GMT -5
I just saw I had an email from WB about this game yesterday. lol
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Post by Nivro™ on May 20, 2016 20:40:18 GMT -5
I just saw I had an email from WB about this game yesterday. lol I knew there were rumors of it but I didnt know if anything was confirmed. I just saw some of the trailer videos come through my DC Instagram. I wonder why Arkham Origins wasnt included though.
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Post by PJ on May 21, 2016 4:18:29 GMT -5
I just saw I had an email from WB about this game yesterday. lol I knew there were rumors of it but I didnt know if anything was confirmed. I just saw some of the trailer videos come through my DC Instagram. I wonder why Arkham Origins wasnt included though. I think because it was a different studio/game team. I know when the game designers for AK where promoting it with the weekly videos and chats leading up to it's release they would mention they only did the Trilogy and someone else had done AO. So I am guessing that is why AO isn't part of it?
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Post by sean™ on May 21, 2016 12:34:46 GMT -5
The Mr. Freeze DLC from Orgins is easily my favorite of any of the games. The exception would be the SOI Mr. Freeze DLC, and it's mainly because of the ending.
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Post by PJ on May 21, 2016 13:33:30 GMT -5
Anyone hear if there will be any store exclusives with this?
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Post by Nivro™ on May 23, 2016 23:06:59 GMT -5
A video showing the difference. Some are kinda hit and miss. Some I like the original, some I like the remastered better. Ill still grab this though. As for store exclusives, I havent heard anything PJ but Ill let you know if I do.
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Post by Weemanv1 on May 24, 2016 0:02:32 GMT -5
Overall it looks really good, but I think it's those with darker hair that stand out the most. It looks like they darkened it too much. Hugo Strange's eyebrows... lol.
Grundy though...he looked amazing I thought. It's not even that the originals looked bad either.
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