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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 13:07:45 GMT -5
In terms of strength and weakness, I find the chokeslam to be the most variable move of all time... When Undertaker does it, it's always a signature move, but usually never leads to a 3 count. When Kane does it, it seems to have a stronger effect but results in a 3 count only some of the time. Big Show is usually reversed or just resorts to using the Knockout punch. And back in the day, there were several wrestlers who used chokeslams and it was more or less effective depending on who used it (Psycho Sid had it as a finisher, but yet Scott Hall did it as a regular move sometimes). And each respective wrestler's effectiveness with the chokeslam has been polarizing over the years (including all the ones above). Some more, some less. Chokeslam was the first move I thought of... well spoken, sir.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 13:24:35 GMT -5
Weakest Santinos Cobra Finisher Easily the weakest finishing move of all time.
Strongest Seth Rollins-The Black Out Stomp Anything Antonio Cesaro Does
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Post by greenjack1992 on Mar 16, 2014 17:55:25 GMT -5
Something else that comes to mind is a splash.
Snuka did it from the top rope and it was a spectacle which made time stand still. Warrior did it from standing and it was as though the victim's lungs were going to come up out of his mouth.
Then it became a generic filler move for any big man.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Mar 16, 2014 18:58:27 GMT -5
In watching older PPVs on WWE Network, it seemed like every 3 months Edge had a different "finisher" from the spear to the DDT to that one time he started using a submission. I always thought Sheamus was better when he used the Celtic Cross or whatever as his finisher. Now it seems he only ever does it for it to get countered/escaped. I never really got how Cena's Death Valley Driver now a firemans carry ever looked devastating enough to be a finisher. I mean..it's not much different impact wise to a regular suplex, powerslam etc; Then again that can be argued for many other moves I guess. That must be why he has to hit it like 5 times a match now.
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Mar 16, 2014 19:48:44 GMT -5
In watching older PPVs on WWE Network, it seemed like every 3 months Edge had a different "finisher" from the spear to the DDT to that one time he started using a submission. I always thought Sheamus was better when he used the Celtic Cross or whatever as his finisher. Now it seems he only ever does it for it to get countered/escaped. I never really got how Cena's Death Valley Driver now a firemans carry ever looked devastating enough to be a finisher. I mean..it's not much different impact wise to a regular suplex, powerslam etc; Then again that can be argued for many other moves I guess. That must be why he has to hit it like 5 times a match now. He called the DDT and sharpshooteresque move edgeucator and edgeucation or something like that. Then don't forgot he had the downward spiral.
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Post by Justin on Mar 16, 2014 19:52:01 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan's knee strike is pretty badass. Looks believeable too. I wonder how many times he's actually made contact cause it looks stiff. Seems to me like Cena has been the only one with the balls to take the move head-on. H and Orton take it on the arm/shoulder area and, especially in H's case, it looks terrible. Shame, because it's a great-looking move. Yeah Cena took the knee straight to the face and it looked awesome
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Mar 17, 2014 3:44:43 GMT -5
The Usos have pretty much killed the superkick by using it every two minutes, now its just a normal move. John Cena has killed the Cross Arm Breaker. Really there should be no way he can lift Alberto up with the arm thats being affected yet he still does. If it wasn't for Roman Reigns and even Kaitlyn to an extent then the Spear would also be dead too thanks to Edge and Christian. Christian's spear looks 10x better thanks edge's. I don't think his looks bad at all. Edge however ruined the move and it looked like he hugged his opponent every time he did it. If someone as tall as Edge couldn't get much power behind a Spear then half his size Christian definitely couldn't. Kaitlyn should have given both of them lessons on how to make it look more effective. In watching older PPVs on WWE Network, it seemed like every 3 months Edge had a different "finisher" from the spear to the DDT to that one time he started using a submission. I always thought Sheamus was better when he used the Celtic Cross or whatever as his finisher. Now it seems he only ever does it for it to get countered/escaped. That must be why he has to hit it like 5 times a match now. He called the DDT and sharpshooteresque move edgeucator and edgeucation or something like that. Then don't forgot he had the downward spiral. It seems like every superstar has used the Downward Spiral (or some variation) as a finisher. I'm pretty sure Taker even used it in a match against Booker T but not as a finisher though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 4:28:24 GMT -5
Sharpshooter. It used to end the match 90% of the time when Bret was using it. However, once HBK, The Rock, Chris Benoit, Natlya, etc. started using it the luster wore off. Exactly, once those guys started using it it basically became nothing more than the boston crab. Rocks is as bad as Cena's STF. Like dude, if Rock wasn't there it would look like some girl from a 90s sitcom talking on the phone in her bad. Bret's looked so tight. Especially on Perfect at summerslam an he had a bad back that night, that makes me cringe.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 17, 2014 6:54:14 GMT -5
He called the DDT and sharpshooteresque move edgeucator and edgeucation or something like that. Then don't forgot he had the downward spiral. It seems like every superstar has used the Downward Spiral (or some variation) as a finisher. I'm pretty sure Taker even used it in a match against Booker T but not as a finisher though. Yeah that's right Taker used it occasionally in 2002-3. According to wikipedia it was referred to as "The Graveyard Shift", but I have yet to see a match where this was referenced. So many have used it (or a variation), it's like the cutter or superkick: Kanyon (Flatliner) Scott Steiner (Steiner Flatliner) Edge (Downward Spiral) Undertaker ("Graveyard Shift") Jeff Hardy (in TNA) Orlando Jordan (Black Out) Carlito (Cool Shot) Shelton Benjamin (Paydirt) MVP (Play of the Day) Plus many more...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 7:16:36 GMT -5
I understand but it was just a punch 3 years ago and then out if the blue it's devistating. During the feud with mayweather they said he underwent boxing lessons and out came the WMD. I mean I respect your opinion but my type of finishers are the realistic ones A close fisted punch is supposed to be an illegal move in wrestling, same with kicking someone in the face. So I never liked Shawn's finisher or Big Show's new one. The best finishing moves are actual moves like the Stunner, Chokeslam, F5 IMO, as well as the great submission moves like the Sharpshooter and Crossface.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 17, 2014 12:10:24 GMT -5
Christian's spear looks 10x better thanks edge's. I don't think his looks bad at all. Edge however ruined the move and it looked like he hugged his opponent every time he did it. If someone as tall as Edge couldn't get much power behind a Spear then half his size Christian definitely couldn't. Kaitlyn should have given both of them lessons on how to make it look more effective. He called the DDT and sharpshooteresque move edgeucator and edgeucation or something like that. Then don't forgot he had the downward spiral. It seems like every superstar has used the Downward Spiral (or some variation) as a finisher. I'm pretty sure Taker even used it in a match against Booker T but not as a finisher though. It's common physics. It's doesn't matter how big or small someone is. 300 pound lineman have been bowled over by running backs half their size. Christians size has nothing to do with execution. Not only does Christians look better but he makes it look more believable that he could knock someone out with it than edge did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 12:19:30 GMT -5
The Usos have pretty much killed the superkick by using it every two minutes, now its just a normal move. John Cena has killed the Cross Arm Breaker. Really there should be no way he can lift Alberto up with the arm thats being affected yet he still does. If it wasn't for Roman Reigns and even Kaitlyn to an extent then the Spear would also be dead too thanks to Edge and Christian. Christian's spear looks 10x better thanks edge's. I don't think his looks bad at all. Edge however ruined the move and it looked like he hugged his opponent every time he did it. Holy shitballs. You have no idea how much I agree with this. Edge has the worst spear ever. Christian's isn't the best (although not bad), but Edge's makes Christian's look like Goldberg's.
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Post by Road Warriors on Mar 17, 2014 13:51:37 GMT -5
The Doomsday Device has been and always will be the greatest finishing Tag Team move of all time.
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