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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on Apr 22, 2014 15:14:29 GMT -5
It's absolutely criminal how underused he was.
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Post by RollinsFan44 on Apr 22, 2014 15:59:58 GMT -5
Trent Baretta Muhammad Hassan Ultimo Dragon Vader
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on Apr 22, 2014 16:04:31 GMT -5
Mr perfect should have been world champ When? When ever.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 22, 2014 16:42:15 GMT -5
Doesn't really work that way.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 22, 2014 16:50:48 GMT -5
I'd be here all night if I sat listed these people. But off the top of my head: Curt Hawkins Ted DiBiase Derrick Bateman Mr. Kennedy Kerry Von Erich Evan Bourne Mr. Perfect Chris Hero Lance Storm Christian Rhino I'm gonna pick one name out of your list because I was going to post him but then I actually sat and thought about it. Mr. Kennedy. How can you say he wasn't used properly? A former US champion, MITB winner and would have cashed that in to be champion if he didn't get hurt (even more bad luck when they found out it wasn't as serious as first thought). Major PPV matches and wins against numerous former world champions like Batista and Taker. Hell look at the company he was in in his last match with the company. Kennedy was given every opportunity to succeed. A person like Carlito is something I think they could have done much, much more with. MVP too. William Regal though is tippity top of my list and no one will dethrone him... unless Barrett goes down the same road. Yes he was and everything you said was correct. Then he was fired when he returned from injury due to a personal dispute with Orton and Cena. He deserved better. They gave Carlito every oppportunity as well. Problem is Carlito was lazy. I DEFINITELY agree about Regal. I'd be here all night if I sat listed these people. But off the top of my head: Curt Hawkins Ted DiBiase Derrick Bateman Mr. Kennedy Kerry Von Erich Evan Bourne Mr. Perfect Chris Hero Lance Storm Christian Rhino I agree with everyone except Bourne. Evan pretty well screwed himself over. Evan ed up. No doubt. But it was NOTHING worse than what others have done. I'd be here all night if I sat listed these people. But off the top of my head: Kerry Von Erich They brought KVE in and put him over one of their top guys at Summerslam 1990 to discover shortly afterwards that he was a total wreck......he was even then frequently used as UWs partner in programs with LOD etc.....they used him plenty well given the fact that he was absolutely lost to chemicals. Hence his short IC run. I mean..... did you see him @ SSeries 1990? He is hardly able to get into the ring and knocks Hawk off the apron during the match. Its clear to me that Vince wanted to push the hell out of Kerry......but he couldn't. He had to give up. 100% agreed on all you said. And I am not trying to take anything away from Kerry's poor choices here, but perhaps WWE should have looked more into rehab for him. If Kerry was performing today, that is EXACTLY what WWE would do. They brought KVE in and put him over one of their top guys at Summerslam 1990 to discover shortly afterwards that he was a total wreck......he was even then frequently used as UWs partner in programs with LOD etc.....they used him plenty well given the fact that he was absolutely lost to chemicals. Hence his short IC run. I mean..... did you see him @ SSeries 1990? He is hardly able to get into the ring and knocks Hawk off the apron during the match. Its clear to me that Vince wanted to push the hell out of Kerry......but he couldn't. He had to give up. Did they know he was missing a leg at the time? I could be wrong but I didn't think even Vince knew till later. It was a foot and no they did not know. After some more thought I would ass Bam Bam, Vader and Alex Riley to the list.
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Post by Hem-Ridge on Apr 22, 2014 17:07:55 GMT -5
Owen Hart (Should've gotten Backlund's pointless title reign & should've had a brief run with the title to avenge his family over Montreal) Raven Roddy Piper Mr Perfect Rick Rude Bam Bam Bigelow Vader Rhino
That's all I can think of so far. I'm sure there's some I'm forgetting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 17:18:56 GMT -5
Doesn't really work that way. The best time would have been taking Slaughter's run in 91. He would have given Hogan a much better match and Slaughter wasn't over as a heel by Rumble, let alone Mania.
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Post by Matt on Apr 22, 2014 17:24:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah definitely Shelton Benjamin. That guy was insanely good. They definitely dropped the ball with him.
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Post by marino13 on Apr 22, 2014 17:48:45 GMT -5
Did they know he was missing a leg at the time? I could be wrong but I didn't think even Vince knew till later. It was a foot and no they did not know. After some more thought I would ass Bam Bam, Vader and Alex Riley to the list. Good to know. I always thought it was everything from the knee down.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Apr 22, 2014 17:54:36 GMT -5
Trent? Rhino Carlito Chris Hero The Hurricane Matt Hardy
Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder right now
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 22, 2014 19:56:43 GMT -5
Doesn't really work that way. The best time would have been taking Slaughter's run in 91. He would have given Hogan a much better match and Slaughter wasn't over as a heel by Rumble, let alone Mania. Never would've happened. Perfect already had his run with Hogan, and one with Warrior, and failed to set the world on fire either time -- he was played out as an opponent for both guys by '91. I can understand younger fans being into him with the WWE posthumous push and all that, and he was indeed great, but he wasn't world title material in his era. In the last ten years, where everybody half-decent got some kind of world title run? Absolutely. But not in the late eighties or early nineties. The Gulf War cash-in was a misfire, but putting the title and WrestleMania main event on a midcarder that had already lost to both Hogan and Warrior a million times would have been even worse, to the point where it wouldn't even be a consideration. If the war didn't happen and make Vince see the dollar signs in Slaughter, VII would've been a Hogan vs Warrior rematch.
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Post by instant classic on Apr 22, 2014 20:11:13 GMT -5
Booker T
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Post by Word™ on Apr 22, 2014 23:30:14 GMT -5
British Buldog 96 Mr Perfect last wwe runBilly Gunn post DX John Tenta as Golga and not Earthquake smh Rick Rude as DX insurance policy Bam Bam should have won kotr and gotten a better push Vader should have gotten a title run Mr. Perfect's last WWE run was criminal.. I remember being at the Royal Rumble in 2002 when he returned.. The crowd went absolutely f'n nuts for him.. When he was getting eliminated, the crowd boo'd.. He called an audible, got back in the ring, and hit the Perfect Plex on someone, crowd went crazy.. Then he eliminated almost instantly afterwards. I always heard he was suppose to start a program up with Kurt Angle, which only further pisses me off. For some reason, I've never forgot the backstage confrontation he had with the NWO after they entered the WWE.. Watching that was just like "OH ****!"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 0:04:55 GMT -5
Mike Awesome
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 0:49:42 GMT -5
I'm gonna pick one name out of your list because I was going to post him but then I actually sat and thought about it. Mr. Kennedy. How can you say he wasn't used properly? A former US champion, MITB winner and would have cashed that in to be champion if he didn't get hurt (even more bad luck when they found out it wasn't as serious as first thought). Major PPV matches and wins against numerous former world champions like Batista and Taker. Hell look at the company he was in in his last match with the company. Kennedy was given every opportunity to succeed. A person like Carlito is something I think they could have done much, much more with. MVP too. William Regal though is tippity top of my list and no one will dethrone him... unless Barrett goes down the same road. Yes he was and everything you said was correct. Then he was fired when he returned from injury due to a personal dispute with Orton and Cena. He deserved better. They gave Carlito every oppportunity as well. Problem is Carlito was lazy. I DEFINITELY agree about Regal. I agree with everyone except Bourne. Evan pretty well screwed himself over. Evan ed up. No doubt. But it was NOTHING worse than what others have done. They brought KVE in and put him over one of their top guys at Summerslam 1990 to discover shortly afterwards that he was a total wreck......he was even then frequently used as UWs partner in programs with LOD etc.....they used him plenty well given the fact that he was absolutely lost to chemicals. Hence his short IC run. I mean..... did you see him @ SSeries 1990? He is hardly able to get into the ring and knocks Hawk off the apron during the match. Its clear to me that Vince wanted to push the hell out of Kerry......but he couldn't. He had to give up. 100% agreed on all you said. And I am not trying to take anything away from Kerry's poor choices here, but perhaps WWE should have looked more into rehab for him. If Kerry was performing today, that is EXACTLY what WWE would do. Oh I knew you weren't man and yeah maybe they should have tried to strongarm him into rehab.....Im just thinking about some of the shoot stories about him, Jesus he was a mess.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Apr 23, 2014 0:55:43 GMT -5
Maven.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Apr 23, 2014 1:59:35 GMT -5
El Torito should've ended Undertaker's streak at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Himmy! on Apr 23, 2014 2:50:01 GMT -5
I definitely agree with Raven. He could have been awesome if used properly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 3:16:53 GMT -5
It's absolutely criminal how underused he was.
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Post by Danger10 on Apr 23, 2014 12:27:09 GMT -5
off the top of my head nwo Raven Jerry Lynn Shelton Benjamin Road Warriors 1996 through 1999
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