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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 19, 2017 20:48:01 GMT -5
Calm your tits already Warner Brothers. Stick some of these lower tier characters into the movies with the bigger names and gauge the reaction to determine if there should be a solo film released.
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Post by Word™ on Jan 19, 2017 21:38:02 GMT -5
New reports are that Wonder Woman is a mess..
If Wonder Woman is also a poor movie, I truly wonder what the hell is going on.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 19, 2017 22:10:49 GMT -5
New reports are that Wonder Woman is a mess.. If Wonder Woman is also a poor movie, I truly wonder what the hell is going on. Dawn of Justice & Suicide Squad were "awful" films too...yet they're both top 10 movies last year and grossed a butt ton...more importantly, I greatly enjoy both....so this is good news to me. I think I would be more worried if someone came out and said a DC movie was fantastic.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Jan 20, 2017 8:22:18 GMT -5
New reports are that Wonder Woman is a mess.. If Wonder Woman is also a poor movie, I truly wonder what the hell is going on. Dawn of Justice & Suicide Squad were "awful" films too...yet they're both top 10 movies last year and grossed a butt ton...more importantly, I greatly enjoy both....so this is good news to me. I think I would be more worried if someone came out and said a DC movie was fantastic. My biggest complaint about Sucide Squad is that Leto's Joker pretty much sucked. So I definitely don't think it's the greatest movie ever but It's far from the worst like some critics said.
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Post by Word™ on Jan 20, 2017 17:32:45 GMT -5
New reports are that Wonder Woman is a mess.. If Wonder Woman is also a poor movie, I truly wonder what the hell is going on. Dawn of Justice & Suicide Squad were "awful" films too...yet they're both top 10 movies last year and grossed a butt ton...more importantly, I greatly enjoy both....so this is good news to me. I think I would be more worried if someone came out and said a DC movie was fantastic.Why?
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 20, 2017 20:00:25 GMT -5
Dawn of Justice & Suicide Squad were "awful" films too...yet they're both top 10 movies last year and grossed a butt ton...more importantly, I greatly enjoy both....so this is good news to me. I think I would be more worried if someone came out and said a DC movie was fantastic.Why? critics have said the movies were bad & I enjoyed them. I would be afraid if they said they were good, I wouldnt.
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Post by Word™ on Jan 21, 2017 2:46:59 GMT -5
critics have said the movies were bad & I enjoyed them. I would be afraid if they said they were good, I wouldnt. I understand your fandom and I totally get why you enjoyed them.. Definitely not taking that away from you because I love that you found the good in these movies.. I'm actually really happy that there are people out there that love these movies. Because I loved things within BvS and I love David Ayer.. I respect a handful of the actors that are taking part in these films and it bothers me that they're not good (from my POV) and the view of others. With that being said if Wonder Woman doesn't have favorable reviews come its release I will not be seeing it in theaters.. I've been burned 3 times at this point by WB's half ass attempt to create a shared universe. They're releasing bad films and the worst part is THEY KNOW they're releasing bad films. Which is disappointing because they're clearly bringing in people that are passionate towards DC. The reason I posted the original post about WW rumors is because I find it interesting that seemingly every onset report/early report of the DCEU is completely negative. Which can only mean that no one from the high ups in WB are learning from these experiences. They're filling their pockets full of cash and giving us whatever they want.. Rushing Ayers on his script, rushing Batman into the mix and forcing The Joker into Suicide Squad only to cut out 80% of his scenes, and reports circulating that WB has even rushed Affleck on his Batman script.. I'm disappointed man and every-time something like this report comes out, I'm reminded of what COULD be.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 22, 2017 14:51:23 GMT -5
critics have said the movies were bad & I enjoyed them. I would be afraid if they said they were good, I wouldnt. I understand your fandom and I totally get why you enjoyed them.. Definitely not taking that away from you because I love that you found the good in these movies.. I'm actually really happy that there are people out there that love these movies. Because I loved things within BvS and I love David Ayer.. I respect a handful of the actors that are taking part in these films and it bothers me that they're not good (from my POV) and the view of others. With that being said if Wonder Woman doesn't have favorable reviews come its release I will not be seeing it in theaters.. I've been burned 3 times at this point by WB's half ass attempt to create a shared universe. They're releasing bad films and the worst part is THEY KNOW they're releasing bad films. Which is disappointing because they're clearly bringing in people that are passionate towards DC. The reason I posted the original post about WW rumors is because I find it interesting that seemingly every onset report/early report of the DCEU is completely negative. Which can only mean that no one from the high ups in WB are learning from these experiences. They're filling their pockets full of cash and giving us whatever they want.. Rushing Ayers on his script, rushing Batman into the mix and forcing The Joker into Suicide Squad only to cut out 80% of his scenes, and reports circulating that WB has even rushed Affleck on his Batman script.. I'm disappointed man and every-time something like this report comes out, I'm reminded of what COULD be. I enjoyed the extended cut of BvS but it could have been an awful lot better. Same for Suicide Squad. I had little hope WW would be good because of the horrible miscasting of Gadot. Maybe Pine would have helped? But honestly? Its her movie. DC/WB has too many cooks in their kitchen. they also seem more interested in getting their stars, directors, producers & writers to speak about how different they are than Marvel sooner than focusing on their own projects. Also I know BvS & Suicide Squad did VERY well but don't forget this CRUCIAL point........BOTH movies had DCs top drawing team spread out over them in Joker & Batman. from Bats 89 to TDK? They are the combo people pay to see. Wonder Woman will have neither. I have often wondered what will happen when the DCCU will have to lean on someone other than their 2 heavyweights....guess we will find out come WW. IMO? Gadot has the magnetism of a pencil......
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Post by Joel on Jan 30, 2017 22:28:15 GMT -5
Did anyone hear about Ben not directing "The Batman" after all?
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Post by Word™ on Jan 30, 2017 22:55:57 GMT -5
Yep, Ben Affleck has officially dropped out of the directing chair for the Batman movie.
Not a good sign.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 30, 2017 23:01:33 GMT -5
Not encouraging at all, but to be honest I had a hard time picturing how anyone could pull that sort of thing off, considering he'd probably spend close to half of the shoot in the Batman suit.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 31, 2017 1:05:11 GMT -5
Well...time to make a call to Nolan. He's been part of the "inner circle" with MOS & DOJ. We all know he's a fantastic director and wouldnt screw up like Snyder would.
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Post by Joel on Jan 31, 2017 1:13:14 GMT -5
Well this sucks, I was praying it wasn't true.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 31, 2017 3:54:40 GMT -5
Well...time to make a call to Nolan. He's been part of the "inner circle" with MOS & DOJ. We all know he's a fantastic director and wouldnt screw up like Snyder would. As much as I adore Christian Bale's Batman and the first two Dark Knight movies, I would prefer a director with a fresh take on the character. I thought of a few... Brad Bird, Gareth Evans, George Miller, Denis Villeneuve, Antoine Fuqua, Chris MacQuarrie.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 31, 2017 10:15:00 GMT -5
Well...time to make a call to Nolan. He's been part of the "inner circle" with MOS & DOJ. We all know he's a fantastic director and wouldnt screw up like Snyder would. As much as I adore Christian Bale's Batman and the first two Dark Knight movies, I would prefer a director with a fresh take on the character. I thought of a few... Brad Bird, Gareth Evans, George Miller, Denis Villeneuve, Antoine Fuqua, Chris MacQuarrie. I would hope he could put his previous Batman work on the shelf and go new but I could be wrong. Ive heard a lot of people mention, Tim Miller(?) I think he directed Deadpool but if I read correctly he had something to do in one of the Arkham games.ill have to find where I read that to make sure the name is right. Its been rumored that "The Batman" was suppose to have an Arkham style feel to it so that could be an option.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 31, 2017 10:24:31 GMT -5
Tim Miller did indeed direct Deadpool. His digital arts company also produced the fantastic Batman vs. Deathstroke trailer for the Arkham game.
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Post by Mox on Jan 31, 2017 10:42:58 GMT -5
Seems like Affleck's heart just isn't in it anymore. BvS was an abomination, JL is probably an abomination, and it's screwed with his mojo. He probably can't wait until this contract is up. Such a shame.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 31, 2017 14:06:18 GMT -5
I enjoy Nolan's Bat movies a LOT but find them chronically overrated and would prefer He stayed away now. His involvement with MOS was said to be minimal despite his credit & I feel his take on the caped Crusader should stay in the past. I very much doubt he would do it anyway.
Sad news about Affleck though...there's WAY more to this than we are being told too. his outburst concerning his new movie and Batman allowed us a peep in too.
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Post by IRS on Jan 31, 2017 16:12:55 GMT -5
This is what happens when you try to make a half-assed attempt at replicating Marvel's universe in half the time, with a bunch of idiots from the studio clearly intervening at every step with each film. Has there been a single film in the DCEU so far that hasn't sounded like a cluster behind the scenes?
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 31, 2017 18:32:52 GMT -5
I love DC's characters and want to support the DCEU. I'll be there on opening day for Wonder Woman and Justice League, wanting to love both movies... but at this point, I'll believe they can make a successful movie when I see it. Yes, the movies have made a ton of money, but that's largely due to brand recognition as opposed to artistically competent storytelling.
I have some faith that a solo Batfleck movie, stripped of needless complication from a creative and studio interference standpoint, but that faith will continue to wane until we get official announcement related to the movie going forward into production.
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