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Post by JokerFC on Aug 21, 2016 17:13:12 GMT -5
Hmm.....I'm nearly sure MOS didn't beat Iron Mans domestic or International take(something WB was disappointed by) and Iron Man 2 was a friggin monster too. BUT Thor, Cap & TIH weren't box office giants by any means so yeah there could be something in that I think it was a combined total and not one movie compared to another. I ran across it on Instagram, Ill see if I can find it again and post it. ah yeah I knew that man, I was just trying to figure it out.
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Post by Starscream on Aug 21, 2016 19:21:23 GMT -5
I read somewhere where the first 3 DCEU movies generated as much money as the first 5 Marvel movies. I thought that was an interesting fact considering critics say that the 3 DC movies sucked. Hmm.....I'm nearly sure MOS didn't beat Iron Mans domestic or International take(something WB was disappointed by) and Iron Man 2 was a friggin monster too. BUT Thor, Cap & TIH weren't box office giants by any means so yeah there could be something in that Actually MoS managed to beat Iron Man total box office, MoS having 668 million and Iron Man having 585.2 million. But domestic you are right Iron Man beats MoS. Those three DCEU films are now 2 billions plus total which is surprising knowing all the critics and backlash, goes to show people really want to like these films but is only clicking with few myself included but I know they can't get away with it forever, hopefully Johns can turn it around like he did with Rebirth.
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Post by Word™ on Aug 21, 2016 20:43:59 GMT -5
Suicide Squad continuing to stay on top is a positive.. Hopefully.. Like, I hope WB is learning from all of this. I really hope they're just getting in the grove of it all and taking their mistakes in stride. Working their problems out as they go along.. I hope they see progress in the product and not only dollar signs.
One thing is certain to me amid all of the bad I saw in Suicide Squad, it was much more entertaining to watch than MoS and BvS.
When the movie was over, I didn't feel drained of my soul.. And as the days have gone on I have fondly looked back on the film in a much brighter light than I did with BvS.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 22, 2016 4:03:15 GMT -5
Hmm.....I'm nearly sure MOS didn't beat Iron Mans domestic or International take(something WB was disappointed by) and Iron Man 2 was a friggin monster too. BUT Thor, Cap & TIH weren't box office giants by any means so yeah there could be something in that Actually MoS managed to beat Iron Man total box office, MoS having 668 million and Iron Man having 585.2 million. But domestic you are right Iron Man beats MoS. Those three DCEU films are now 2 billions plus total which is surprising knowing all the critics and backlash, goes to show people really want to like these films but is only clicking with few myself included but I know they can't get away with it forever, hopefully Johns can turn it around like he did with Rebirth. ah yes........I knew IM had beaten MOS someplace.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 22, 2016 14:53:21 GMT -5
I feel as if each movie is slightly better than the previous film. MOS is by far my least favorite. I was so excited to see a good grounded Superman movie. Instead we got a Russel Crowe featuring Superman movie. I also hated how they killed Jonathan Kent in the tornado. There is no way Clark would have allowed that to happen. The original film got it right...
Superman is capable of fixing almost everything, but a heart attack isn't one of them. It humanized him.
BvS had moments I really liked. But it also had moments I just hated. I think had they taken out all the dream sequences. Got rid of the Flash coming out of the wall. And eliminated the whole Doomsday arc, they may have had something special. Recasting Eisenberg would have helped too.
Suicide Squad wasn't awful. But the film was choppy. And the blaring soundtrack was distracting. Had we gotten the version in that video I posted a few pages back, there would be a much different vibe in this thread.
So IMO... SS > BvS > MOS. So going by that formula, Wonder Woman should be pretty good.
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Post by KrimV on Aug 24, 2016 7:03:08 GMT -5
Suicide Squad's soundtrack at the beginning was way out of place. It was like some suit just randomly picked tracks and ordered them to be placed in there somewhere. SS was no great movie, but it was more enjoyable than BvS. I still love MoS of the three though. MoS I felt was the near perfect reboot both Superman and the DCEU needed. And then they turned around and crapall over it with BvS.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 24, 2016 7:57:36 GMT -5
I feel as if each movie is slightly better than the previous film. MOS is by far my least favorite. I was so excited to see a good grounded Superman movie. Instead we got a Russel Crowe featuring Superman movie. I also hated how they killed Jonathan Kent in the tornado. There is no way Clark would have allowed that to happen. The original film got it right... Superman is capable of fixing almost everything, but a heart attack isn't one of them. It humanized him. BvS had moments I really liked. But it also had moments I just hated. I think had they taken out all the dream sequences. Got rid of the Flash coming out of the wall. And eliminated the whole Doomsday arc, they may have had something special. Recasting Eisenberg would have helped too. Suicide Squad wasn't awful. But the film was choppy. And the blaring soundtrack was distracting. Had we gotten the version in that video I posted a few pages back, there would be a much different vibe in this thread. So IMO... SS > BvS > MOS. So going by that formula, Wonder Woman should be pretty good. I just cant undertsnad the fascination all the live action fare has with killing off Pa. Donner movies......Smallville and then MOS.
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 24, 2016 21:58:17 GMT -5
The DCEU can be saved!
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 24, 2016 22:01:16 GMT -5
Batman vs Nightwing could be absolutely epic as if they actually made it. Not even Batman could save a Cyborg movie though.
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 24, 2016 22:05:24 GMT -5
I sort of think, if Wonder Woman is another "bomb" (i.e. financially successful, critically anemic) I wouldn't be totally opposed to them tweaking the formula into a live-action PG-13 Brave and the Bold franchise. Sure, I'd want the solo Batman movies to be a little edgier and smaller-scale, but I think the more Batfleck, the better.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 25, 2016 21:11:16 GMT -5
At the end of the day, I just want to be able to say Affleck was in one great movie as Batman. I personally think the only way that happens is in a solo Bat flick where he's driving and in control of everything. I certainly don't think it'll come by way of a Zack Snyder film.
Given this world they created, I think Hush would be the perfect arc. They can get some crossover in there with Superman, but it would largely be a who's who of rogues and open up a psychological detective story with Tommy Elliot and JT.
Solo Batman films should be the priority.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 25, 2016 22:01:30 GMT -5
Batfleck is easily the best part of the DCCU. I badly want the solo films with no Snyder what so ever. If Affleck is given full control I have no doubt that it'll be a great movie/s.
Under the Red Hood is my top choice for the story. No Mans Land would be fun as a trilogy.
Spoiler for those that haven't seen SS...we know that Joker and Harley are currently on the loose. A trilogy of Batman hunting them down with also the return of Jason Todd would be great, and I feel that is what the DCCU has been hinting at.
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 25, 2016 23:19:24 GMT -5
I also wouldn't mind seeing Long Halloween or Dark Victory on screen either.
But I think Hush might be the best of all of these choices.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 26, 2016 3:43:58 GMT -5
Under The Red Hood or The Long Halloween would be great stuff. I want a movie to concentrate on Batfleck vs Letos Joker though......if they can get him back to do the role.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 26, 2016 9:09:49 GMT -5
I also wouldn't mind seeing Long Halloween or Dark Victory on screen either. But I think Hush might be the best of all of these choices. Jeph Loeb is my favorite Batman writer. So I approve this message. I'm pretty surprised they haven't even attempted a "The Long Halloween" adaption to this point. It would have been a much better progression in the Nolan-verse than the Bane story imo. If Ledger doesn't pass away then maybe life is different but Falcone, Maroni, Two-Face, Scarecrow and Joker, all of these parts Nolan had introduced already, could have been worked around to create a pinnacle mystery/thriller story to cap off that trilogy with "Long Halloween" as the blueprint. I really wanted to see Nolan do the Riddler too, and we never got it. I love the Red Hood story but it was built off of Loeb presenting the idea in "Hush" and then Winnick brought him back. So do "Hush," plant the seeds for "A Death in the Family," via nightmare sequences since that's a plot device they've already introduced, and then bring Jason Todd back in the second stand alone film with the evidence he might still be alive hanging at the end of the first film. This way you can bring back Joker and whoever played the Clayface version of Todd in the first film, and then introduce Black Mask and the al Ghuls. Given that "Hush" and "Under the Hood" only feature the Joker, and they would be able to tie Joker directly to the Jason Todd story through "A Death in the Family" from the presumed second film, they can do a third, and final, film with Joker as the main foe, which would likely be "The Killing Joke." We've already seen the Jason Todd Robin suit. All of this is just a layup imo.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 26, 2016 17:48:54 GMT -5
Watching the Extended cut of BvS. Still think the beginning with Bruce running towards the destruction is one of the best scenes ever filmed. Comic book movie or not. But how much more impactful would it have been had it been Lucius Fox in the collapsing building instead of a random employee?
Most know how close Bruce & Lucius were, so IMO, it would give more reason for the hostility towards Superman.
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Post by Word™ on Aug 26, 2016 22:52:45 GMT -5
Does anyone remember when WB was trying desperately to convince Christian Bale to come back as Batman for the DCEU?
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 27, 2016 2:13:51 GMT -5
Does anyone remember when WB was trying desperately to convince Christian Bale to come back as Batman for the DCEU? Totally false rumor created by a guy trying to sell an eBook.
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 27, 2016 7:51:07 GMT -5
Suicide Squad continuing to stay on top is a positive.. Hopefully.. Like, I hope WB is learning from all of this. I really hope they're just getting in the grove of it all and taking their mistakes in stride. Working their problems out as they go along.. I hope they see progress in the product and not only dollar signs. One thing is certain to me amid all of the bad I saw in Suicide Squad, it was much more entertaining to watch than MoS and BvS. When the movie was over, I didn't feel drained of my soul.. And as the days have gone on I have fondly looked back on the film in a much brighter light than I did with BvS. This . I had fun with SS. I felt entertained. I didn't necessarily feel entertained after B v S.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 8:37:16 GMT -5
Suicide sqaud was trash.
I think dc made a mistake announcing a whole universe before getting their feet wet.
First couple movies have premiered to horrible or mixed reviews (rightfully so, to all over the place and bad casting.)
They should stop trying copy what marvels doing and capitalize on what they do decent at, tv.
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