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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 14, 2016 23:45:37 GMT -5
Snyder just released a pic of Batman's new suit for JL... Wrong movie, Zack. You already made Watchmen.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 15, 2016 7:26:02 GMT -5
I don't mind the more TDK tactical suit though I prefer the more "comicy" suit from BvS. But that new cowl just looks off, and it's not just because of the goggles. In the trailer we see if without the goggles and it just looks funny on Ben to me like it's too small for his head. Maybe it's because it looks like a much slimmer cowl by how it fits the sides of his face but it just looks funny to me.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 15, 2016 9:08:39 GMT -5
It's the ears on the cowl... they're obviously too small. There is no way to not see that as Nite Owl. It can't be unseen.
It's incredibly awkward to see the responses to this on Facebook. BvS fans are attacking "fanboys" and posting pictures of Batman as Leatherwing like that's acceptable reference material to what Affleck is wearing. Yeah... I get that as a comic book reader we're a small community, especially compared to the movie verse fanbase, but at no point is using Nazi Batman going to convince me that Batman doesn't look like Nite Owl.
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Post by Starscream on Sept 15, 2016 11:16:36 GMT -5
...or maybe those goggles have a purpose and will be only used for one scene, the teaser had Bats without those things and people are going crazy that they ruined Batman just because of one picture, silly internet is silly.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 15, 2016 12:11:41 GMT -5
...or maybe those goggles have a purpose and will be only used for one scene, the teaser had Bats without those things and people are going crazy that they ruined Batman just because of one picture, silly internet is silly. He's clearly in a workshop and will only have them for a few moments. Maybe they'll glow white and look cool. That cowl through like I said looks off. Maybe it is the ears and the slimmer look to it but it looks weird even without the goggles.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 15, 2016 13:48:54 GMT -5
Meh...hard time getting excited for this. Maybe when I watch MOS and BvS back to back later this year I will get into a more DCEU place.
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Post by Starscream on Sept 15, 2016 20:17:43 GMT -5
...or maybe those goggles have a purpose and will be only used for one scene, the teaser had Bats without those things and people are going crazy that they ruined Batman just because of one picture, silly internet is silly. He's clearly in a workshop and will only have them for a few moments. Maybe they'll glow white and look cool. That cowl through like I said looks off. Maybe it is the ears and the slimmer look to it but it looks weird even without the goggles. Now that you mention it, it was said that in JL they wanted to do the white eyes on Bats, this must be it. I really can`t say much about the cowl because I don`t see any difference to the one in BvS, is not something I pay too much attention.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 16, 2016 12:33:35 GMT -5
The headpiece looks weird, but at least this cowl has a neck.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 17, 2016 17:05:39 GMT -5
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 18, 2016 20:51:48 GMT -5
I will say this simply as means of comparing/contrasting the two studios and not an attempt to start any sort of fight: I find myself anticipating these DCEU movies and "counting the days" until they come out, figuratively speaking, more than I do for Marvel. Some of that has to do with the fact that Marvel always seems to have another movie around the corner, which is true schedule-wise and in how they write/end their movies as serials rather than standalone stories. And while BVS is not a good movie at all, it still has enough good in it for me to talk myself into believing Justice League is going to be worth watching (especially with elevated Ben Affleck influence).
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 19, 2016 5:06:52 GMT -5
I will say this simply as means of comparing/contrasting the two studios and not an attempt to start any sort of fight: I find myself anticipating these DCEU movies and "counting the days" until they come out, figuratively speaking, more than I do for Marvel. Some of that has to do with the fact that Marvel always seems to have another movie around the corner, which is true schedule-wise and in how they write/end their movies as serials rather than standalone stories. And while BVS is not a good movie at all, it still has enough good in it for me to talk myself into believing Justice League is going to be worth watching (especially with elevated Ben Affleck influence). That's understandable. I hope all the DCEU stuff is great too I have to say. But I don't find myself looking forward to it as much as MCU offerings. I am counting the days until Dr Strange.......then GOTG 2 etc etc etc. I have warmed more to WW after a few viewings of the trailer but still view GG as a shaky investment. Justice League I look forward to....and the trailer wasn't too shabby. Hopefully as you say Afflecks increased influence and Johns appointment will see an upswing in quality. Saying that? I really enjoyed Suicide Squad......and I hope to God they work everything out with Leto and get to continue that story. But man oh man....he has been vocal.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Sept 19, 2016 5:38:56 GMT -5
I have no issues with that batsuit/goggles personally.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 19, 2016 8:05:40 GMT -5
I have no issues with that batsuit/goggles personally. It wouldn't be quite so jarring a look had Snyder not also directed Watchmen.
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Post by IRS on Sept 19, 2016 15:28:37 GMT -5
I will say this simply as means of comparing/contrasting the two studios and not an attempt to start any sort of fight: I find myself anticipating these DCEU movies and "counting the days" until they come out, figuratively speaking, more than I do for Marvel. Some of that has to do with the fact that Marvel always seems to have another movie around the corner, which is true schedule-wise and in how they write/end their movies as serials rather than standalone stories. And while BVS is not a good movie at all, it still has enough good in it for me to talk myself into believing Justice League is going to be worth watching (especially with elevated Ben Affleck influence). I'm pretty much the exact opposite. I get way more excited for Marvel, because they have yet to put out a truly bad film. It may not be GOTG or Civil War every time, but I still generally enjoy the movie. Every time I've gotten excited for anything DC post-TDK, it has been underwhelming every single time. At this point, I think low expectations is the best way to go into the DCEU movies.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 19, 2016 18:26:13 GMT -5
I have no issues with that batsuit/goggles personally. It wouldn't be quite so jarring a look had Snyder not also directed Watchmen. That's it in a nutshell IMHO........70% the reaction this is getting because of Snyders connection with Watchmen. If it wasn't Snyder as the connective tissue there would just have been some brief commentary about the director having seen Watchmen too many times of some such!!
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Post by Word™ on Sept 19, 2016 22:56:07 GMT -5
I will say this simply as means of comparing/contrasting the two studios and not an attempt to start any sort of fight: I find myself anticipating these DCEU movies and "counting the days" until they come out, figuratively speaking, more than I do for Marvel. Some of that has to do with the fact that Marvel always seems to have another movie around the corner, which is true schedule-wise and in how they write/end their movies as serials rather than standalone stories. And while BVS is not a good movie at all, it still has enough good in it for me to talk myself into believing Justice League is going to be worth watching (especially with elevated Ben Affleck influence). I'm pretty much the exact opposite. I get way more excited for Marvel, because they have yet to put out a truly bad film. It may not be GOTG or Civil War every time, but I still generally enjoy the movie. Every time I've gotten excited for anything DC post-TDK, it has been underwhelming every single time. At this point, I think low expectations is the best way to go into the DCEU movies. It's personally hard to ignore heavy flaws.. Not agreeing with the story or the characters is one thing, but when production starts becoming a jarring issue then it becomes the biggest issue. We're not disagreeing about plot/characters/motives with these DC movies.. We're discussing soundtrack/editing/writing/production issues. That's why DC is having problems. Because the issues are starting on set, in the writer's room, and in the editing room.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 20, 2016 5:00:32 GMT -5
I'm pretty much the exact opposite. I get way more excited for Marvel, because they have yet to put out a truly bad film. It may not be GOTG or Civil War every time, but I still generally enjoy the movie. Every time I've gotten excited for anything DC post-TDK, it has been underwhelming every single time. At this point, I think low expectations is the best way to go into the DCEU movies. It's personally hard to ignore heavy flaws.. Not agreeing with the story or the characters is one thing, but when production starts becoming a jarring issue then it becomes the biggest issue. We're not disagreeing about plot/characters/motives with these DC movies.. We're discussing soundtrack/editing/writing/production issues. That's why DC is having problems. Because the issues are starting on set, in the writer's room, and in the editing room. Good point. Ayers reaction when he was asked about making the sequel to Suicide Squad was very telling IMO......it seemed to be a very emphatic NO. Studio meddling seemed to be very high in this production. That's why Afflecks increased profile(IMO) is an asset. He has the muscle within WB to tell them to "f*ck off" if they start to meddle too much in his process.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 20, 2016 7:16:18 GMT -5
It's personally hard to ignore heavy flaws.. Not agreeing with the story or the characters is one thing, but when production starts becoming a jarring issue then it becomes the biggest issue. We're not disagreeing about plot/characters/motives with these DC movies.. We're discussing soundtrack/editing/writing/production issues. That's why DC is having problems. Because the issues are starting on set, in the writer's room, and in the editing room. Good point. Ayers reaction when he was asked about making the sequel to Suicide Squad was very telling IMO......it seemed to be a very emphatic NO. Studio meddling seemed to be very high in this production. That's why Afflecks increased profile(IMO) is an asset. He has the muscle within WB to tell them to "f*ck off" if they start to meddle too much in his process. Affleck is my only hope for a great solo Batman film. The guy is an A-list star and should have complete control over the movie and on who has any say, if at all. He's proven that he's a great writer and director so DC needs to take a que from Marvel and stay the hell away.
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Post by Word™ on Sept 21, 2016 2:28:49 GMT -5
Good point. Ayers reaction when he was asked about making the sequel to Suicide Squad was very telling IMO......it seemed to be a very emphatic NO. Studio meddling seemed to be very high in this production. That's why Afflecks increased profile(IMO) is an asset. He has the muscle within WB to tell them to "f*ck off" if they start to meddle too much in his process. Affleck is my only hope for a great solo Batman film. The guy is an A-list star and should have complete control over the movie and on who has any say, if at all. He's proven that he's a great writer and director so DC needs to take a que from Marvel and stay the hell away. And you know when WB steps back and lets Affleck have full creative control, after it becomes a critical success and box office smash that the Execs will claim that it's only a good movie because it's Ben Affleck. Which will be partially true.. But they'll treat it like they've treated Nolan's work, it's only successful because it's Nolan and has nothing to do with them standing the back and letting creative minds do their job. It's a world of egomaniacs. They will never accept blame for the failures.. That's why they keep repeating the same mistakes over and over with DC.. They're not learning anything from this process..
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 26, 2016 13:55:53 GMT -5
Warner's executive was quoted over the weekend as saying Ben Affleck's Batman movie is about 18 months away. That puts it in or around March 2018, which is when Ezra Miller's Flash movie is scheduled for release. Wouldn't shock me to see The Flash bumped to the October 2018 date that DC/WB currently has in its future slate.
And if the Batfleck solo movie is really that close to being ready, I'd expect that we'll start hearing casting news pretty soon... Before the new year for sure. For a movie of this scale, 18 months away means they're probably already in pre-production. IT'S ALL HAPPENING.
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