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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Sept 9, 2019 11:19:26 GMT -5
I dig the trailer and can’t wait for Joker. I’m fully expecting greatness.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 10, 2019 8:47:34 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone else watched yet but thought the Titans Season 2 premier ruled. It was obviously the finale from Season 1 and almost all of that looked like it was shot in the previous season. I honestly think it should have just aired as Episode 12 and that's the way we should view it now. It was kind of a ridiculous gimmick to give us the conclusion to an episode a year later (for those that had to wait that long). To address some of the criticism I've seen: I've seen people complain about Raven dealing away Trigon but my understanding is that Trigon wasn't actually fully realized because he needed to use Raven as a vessel. Raven passed her test because of Gar, so like the prophecy stated that was the way to defeating Trigon, and Trigon had already given exponential power to her with the jewel. So conceivably, Raven was more powerful than Trigon and without her in his control he wasn't able to manipulate anything on Earth with his full force of power. So Raven just kind of whooshed him away. I honestly didn't think anything of it until I saw people complaining. The retcon to a previous Titans team was pretty cool. Jason looking at the suits kind of gave me that goosebumps feeling. I don't particularly want the show to take on any kind of lighter tone but the Teen Titans crowd seemed to really have their pampers in a twist over the characterization of the more mature versions of these characters. Kory not being orange when she's blending in with people on Earth makes plenty of sense. I think this show is so damn good, and if we only got the 12 episodes I would be so grateful it existed, so pretty much the same deal as Swamp Thing since that show was ing awesome, too. Anyway, Deathstroke should be great. Hopefully he carries over into multiple seasons. I think it's unfortunate for Titans that Arrow already used Deathstroke so heavily. So it will be interesting to see what route they take with him to try and differentiate him from the previous tv incarnation. So far, so good. I'm also really hoping we get full blown live action Batman with Glen, too. Live action Nightwing and Batman fighting back-to-back is like dream come true stuff for me and this is the absolute perfect platform for it. I grabbed Doom Patrol on iTunes. So I'm going to try and watch through that here when I get a chance to binge it.
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Post by MacReady on Sept 18, 2019 7:52:03 GMT -5
Count me as one of the pretentious blowhards that likes what has been released so far for Joker. I like story over action when it comes to comic book films and I know that goes against what so many people like. It is going to be hard to pull off a movie like this. Villains typically work only because of the limited screen time given. So a difficult task but I'm intrigued to see what they do. Enough from me. I need to go look at my films that I never watch that are alphabetical by director and make room for more Criterions. If you were a REAL auteur they'd be alphabetical by CINEMATOGRAPHER!
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Post by Joel on Oct 4, 2019 23:18:43 GMT -5
Has anyone seen Joker yet?
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Post by jayrod2009 on Oct 6, 2019 11:24:33 GMT -5
Has anyone seen Joker yet? I saw it last night. Its a damn good movie but its too real. I am shocked Hollywood allowed it.
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Post by Thought Collector on Oct 6, 2019 13:57:38 GMT -5
Saw it last last night, loved it- lived up to all the hype. Gave me chills and genuinely almost cried at a few moments. Has anyone seen Joker yet?
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Post by Joel on Oct 6, 2019 14:59:29 GMT -5
I just got back from seeing it. Absolutely brilliant, words can’t describe. Definitely lived up to the hype and what all the reviews where saying about the film. That ending though, had me in chills. Joaquin Phoenix performance is without a doubt Oscar worthy. The best part of the film for me was the score, I’ve been listening to the soundtrack ever since I got out of the theater. Im going to watch this movie again with some buddies on Tuesday.
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Post by hbkjason on Oct 7, 2019 3:35:14 GMT -5
My wife really wanted to see it, so we went on Saturday.
I still do not know what to think of it. It was a good movie, it really was. However, you could have taken out Gotham, took out the Waynes, not had him refer to himself as Joker and it would have been just as good a movie. I see no reason at all why this needed to be a Joker origin story. Joaquin Phonix really is fantastic in this role, but I do not want to feel sorry or emphasize with the Joker in any way what so ever. I like him being unpredictable, not knowing what really makes him tick and so on. I get that people who loved this movie loved the way it dealt with mental illness and had the movie not been called Joker and a DC movie, I would be right there with them. But it was called Joker and that was "The Joker" so I cannot separate the two and for me personally in that regard the movie failed.
The last 30 minutes or so though are quite spellbinding I must admit, but I would have probably ended the movie about five minutes before it did as I feel that would have had more impact. This is a really weird movie for me to talk about. As I said I liked it, it was good, but there is just something not right with it. I do think it is worth checking out. Just stay of the internet if you do not want to read about how The Joker is becoming this freaking "anti-hero" and poster child for mental illness.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Oct 7, 2019 11:09:49 GMT -5
My wife really wanted to see it, so we went on Saturday. I still do not know what to think of it. It was a good movie, it really was. However, you could have taken out Gotham, took out the Waynes, not had him refer to himself as Joker and it would have been just as good a movie. I see no reason at all why this needed to be a Joker origin story. Joaquin Phonix really is fantastic in this role, but I do not want to feel sorry or emphasize with the Joker in any way what so ever. I like him being unpredictable, not knowing what really makes him tick and so on. I get that people who loved this movie loved the way it dealt with mental illness and had the movie not been called Joker and a DC movie, I would be right there with them. But it was called Joker and that was "The Joker" so I cannot separate the two and for me personally in that regard the movie failed. The last 30 minutes or so though are quite spellbinding I must admit, but I would have probably ended the movie about five minutes before it did as I feel that would have had more impact. This is a really weird movie for me to talk about. As I said I liked it, it was good, but there is just something not right with it. I do think it is worth checking out. Just stay of the internet if you do not want to read about how The Joker is becoming this freaking "anti-hero" and poster child for mental illness. That feeling is that what you saw was too real. It took someone with a real life struggle and placed you in their day-to-day struggle. You watched a man who was already in mental anguish spiral in and out of reality. I felt guilty that I pitied him. And yes, the last 30 minutes is easily my favorite storytelling from a movie.
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Post by Joel on Oct 7, 2019 12:02:31 GMT -5
Hopefully I’m not spoiling anything if so I do apologize as I don’t know how to use the spoiler tag. But the scene where he is on top of the cop car and he notice his mouth is bleeding and he forms a smile with his hands gave me goosebumps. That was by far my favorite shot of the whole film. I want to get a poster of that scene and frame it for I can hang it up in my man cave.
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Post by BSR on Oct 13, 2019 12:56:40 GMT -5
Lmgao did felecity go to ing space
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 14, 2019 16:19:54 GMT -5
My wife really wanted to see it, so we went on Saturday. I still do not know what to think of it. It was a good movie, it really was. However, you could have taken out Gotham, took out the Waynes, not had him refer to himself as Joker and it would have been just as good a movie. I see no reason at all why this needed to be a Joker origin story. Joaquin Phonix really is fantastic in this role, but I do not want to feel sorry or emphasize with the Joker in any way what so ever. I like him being unpredictable, not knowing what really makes him tick and so on. I get that people who loved this movie loved the way it dealt with mental illness and had the movie not been called Joker and a DC movie, I would be right there with them. But it was called Joker and that was "The Joker" so I cannot separate the two and for me personally in that regard the movie failed. The last 30 minutes or so though are quite spellbinding I must admit, but I would have probably ended the movie about five minutes before it did as I feel that would have had more impact. This is a really weird movie for me to talk about. As I said I liked it, it was good, but there is just something not right with it. I do think it is worth checking out. Just stay of the internet if you do not want to read about how The Joker is becoming this freaking "anti-hero" and poster child for mental illness. These are my thoughts exactly. Going into it, and after seeing it, I felt that this could have been called “Clown,” dropped all the Batman references, and still been the same movie. Was it a solid movie? Yeah. Was Phoenix good? Yeah. Was this necessary? No. Semi-spoilers below... My biggest issue is that they made Joker sympathetic. The movie continually pushed his “mental illness” in our faces. We constantly saw him get the crapped beat out of him. His co-workers treated him like crap. His mother was a nut job who beat him with he abusive boyfriends. The city cut funds and he couldn’t get the help he needed any longer (not that it was helping). The Joker is a character who is simply evil. He doesn’t need a reason for being psychotic. Just like Michael Myers was a normal kid who just snapped in the original Halloween, this is how Joker has been mostly portrayed in the comics. We knew Jack Nicholson’s version was a member of the mob, but nothing beyond that. We knew nothing if Ledger’s version either. And as Batman has stated is most medias, Joker is simply psychotic and there’s no reason for it. They can make any other Batman villains appear sympathetic because they are what Bruce could have turned into, but Joker is simply psychotic with no reason. Now I’ve seen fan theories that the movie was just another story, similar to the ones Ledger would tell. If that’s the case, the movie did a poor job of portraying that at the end. Over all, it was a solid movie, but one that myself as a Batman fan will nitpick. And I also found the theater and media warnings of “excessive violence” ridiculous. They’ve clearly never seen an action or horror film from the 80s if they think this movie was excessively violent.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 14, 2019 19:22:20 GMT -5
Zoe Kravitz is Catwoman in The Batman. So good.
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 15, 2019 5:12:50 GMT -5
Seen Joker. I agree with Cordless....fine movie but as a Joker movie I cant relate to it at all. A movie made to cash in on the name of arguably the greatest comic book villain of all time.
I knew "The Joker" would have been made sympathetic....also something I strongly disagree with. To sum up its a good movie....but definitely not a good Joker movie. As Cordless says if you renamed the city & Waynes then called it Clown it would be the exact same.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 15, 2019 8:55:16 GMT -5
If they wanted to show him descending into madness, they should have shown him killing random people he bumped into rather than the people who did him wrong. The people he killed all had it coming to them from the audiences perspective. This was one of the biggest issues I had with the movie.
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 15, 2019 17:44:15 GMT -5
If they wanted to show him descending into madness, they should have shown him killing random people he bumped into rather than the people who did him wrong. The people he killed all had it coming to them from the audiences perspective. This was one of the biggest issues I had with the movie. yeah great point man....
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Oct 20, 2019 1:21:22 GMT -5
Just finished seeing it. I liked this approach because it was different from all the versions we’ve had before. I could relate to the character going through all the bs he was and his then sudden outburst. The only thing I didn’t like was that there wasn’t a lot of screen time with his costume. I wish there were more use of iconic weapons/gags associated with the joker character as well. Last but not least, I would of loved to see a scene with joker goons...
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Post by Newsted on Nov 14, 2019 14:11:59 GMT -5
Andy Serkis as Alfred in "The Batman" This movie is really starting to get interesting to me.
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Post by LA Times on Dec 6, 2019 11:55:56 GMT -5
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 6, 2019 21:36:55 GMT -5
I’m definitely down for seeing this thing, mostly out of curiosity, but 5 hours, yikes...
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